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Sam, I see, thanks. Don't agree though.


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Nebs wrote:
Sam, I see, thanks. Don't agree though.


we shall see :-)

this movie is getting better WOM than the first potter :-)

it is now a cool teenager movie so don't underestimate them. The movie dropped Thursday because everyone had to be home with the families.

but now that the weekend is here, what is there to do? oh yeah. let's go check out harry potter!

plus the families and your general movie goers.

it will increase a little today and not drop that much tomorrow.

i call for a 62 million three day weekend!


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Sam, I see, thanks. Don't agree though.


Me neither. For that it'd need to repeat the Sunday drop of the first movie and I just don't see it happening.

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Great for Potter. Is it gonna break the whole decresing streak of the whole franchise? Most likely right?

And are those numbers good or bad for Walk the Line?

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Little more detailed numbers from SBD.

[align=center][table][row color=#333300]Rank[col color=#333300]Movie[col color=#333300]Gross[col color=#333300]%Change (t)[col color=#333300]%Change (lf)[col color=#333300]PTA[col color=#333300]PTA Drop (lf)[col color=#333300]Total[col color=#333300]Projections[col color=#333300]Projected Drop[row color=#003366]1[col color=#003366]Goblet of Fire[col color=#003366]$22.773.000[col color=#003366]76,53%[col color=#003366]-43,24%[col color=#003366]$5.903[col color=#003366]-43,24%[col color=#003366]$170.167.000[col color=#003366]$54.655.200[col color=#003366]-46,77%[row color=#003366]2[col color=#003366]Walk the Line[col color=#003366]$7.789.000[col color=#003366]72,32%[col color=#003366]2,33%[col color=#003366]$2.482[col color=#003366]-3,46%[col color=#003366]$42.746.000[col color=#003366]$19.628.280[col color=#003366]-12,17%[row color=#333300]3[col color=#333300]Mine, Yours and Ours[col color=#333300]$6.974.000[col color=#333300]84,25%[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$2.175[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$14.064.000[col color=#333300]$16.877.080[col color=#333300]-[row color=#003366]4[col color=#003366]Chicken Little[col color=#003366]$5.425.000[col color=#003366]184,03%[col color=#003366]52,47%[col color=#003366]$1.561[col color=#003366]54,11%[col color=#003366]$111.164.000[col color=#003366]$13.074.250[col color=#003366]-11,13%[row color=#333300]5[col color=#333300]Rent[col color=#333300]$4.330.000[col color=#333300]81,93%[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$1.780[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$11.560.000[col color=#333300]$10.825.000[col color=#333300]-[row color=#333300]6[col color=#333300]Just Friends[col color=#333300]$3.750.000[col color=#333300]74,01%[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$1.497[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$7.815.000[col color=#333300]$9.375.000[col color=#333300]-[row color=#003366]7[col color=#003366]Pride and Prejudice[col color=#003366]$2.799.000[col color=#003366]130,75%[col color=#003366]353,65%[col color=#003366]$2.155[col color=#003366]-22,82%[col color=#003366]$11.673.163[col color=#003366]$7.053.480[col color=#003366]229,36%[row color=#003366]8[col color=#003366]Derailed[col color=#003366]$1.766.000[col color=#003366]80,20%[col color=#003366]-15,78%[col color=#003366]$857[col color=#003366]-0,02%[col color=#003366]$26.530.000[col color=#003366]$4.467.980[col color=#003366]-31,33%[row color=#333300]9[col color=#333300]In the Mix[col color=#333300]$1.743.000[col color=#333300]105,06%[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$1.084[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$3.393.000[col color=#333300]$4.305.210[col color=#333300]-[row color=#333300]10[col color=#333300]The Ice Harvest[col color=#333300]$1.457.000[col color=#333300]91,21%[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$940[col color=#333300]-[col color=#333300]$2.763.984[col color=#333300]$3.700.780[col color=#333300]-[/table][/align]


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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote:
Nebs wrote:
Sam, I see, thanks. Don't agree though.


we shall see :-)

this movie is getting better WOM than the first potter :-)

it is now a cool teenager movie so don't underestimate them. The movie dropped Thursday because everyone had to be home with the families.

but now that the weekend is here, what is there to do? oh yeah. let's go check out harry potter!

plus the families and your general movie goers.

it will increase a little today and not drop that much tomorrow.

i call for a 62 million three day weekend!


Uh...no. Even with the first movie's multiplier it would not come even close. It needs to rise on Saturday in order to do that and to drop less than 40% on Sunday and this is simply impossible if you look at the stats.

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stats my butt. i look at what is happening not what has happened. even if i am wrong, it will still be above 57 million.


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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote:
stats my butt. i look at what is happening not what has happened. even if i am wrong, it will still be above 57 million.


That is possible, but quite, QUITE unlikely.

But we'll see once the weekend's over.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Chicken Little = similar to last year's Spongebob funnily enough. A drop on Thursday and then a huge increase on Friday.

Walk the Line is heading towards a bigger drop than I thought.

Rent will have the worst Wednesday-to-5-day-multiplier that I can remember in the past years. It'll be below 4. That is really really really bad.


Exactly how much were you predicting for Walk the Line?

And why are you always calling into question the film's prowess? ("Bigger drop than I thought", "The biggest drop!"). Get a hold of yourself, dudette.


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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote:
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Sam, I see, thanks. Don't agree though.
it is now a cool teenager movie so don't underestimate them. The movie dropped Thursday because everyone had to be home with the families.


In the past, most movies increase on Thanksgiving Day. Last year, Christmas with the Kranks increased 69% and National Treasure increased 38%.


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Fantastic numbers for Potter and Walk the Line (AMAZING drop).

Pretty good for Yours, Mine, and Ours and Pride and Prejudice as well.

Disappointing for Rent though. :sad:


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Libs wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Chicken Little = similar to last year's Spongebob funnily enough. A drop on Thursday and then a huge increase on Friday.

Walk the Line is heading towards a bigger drop than I thought.

Rent will have the worst Wednesday-to-5-day-multiplier that I can remember in the past years. It'll be below 4. That is really really really bad.


Exactly how much were you predicting for Walk the Line?

And why are you always calling into question the film's prowess? ("Bigger drop than I thought", "The biggest drop!"). Get a hold of yourself, dudette.


No, but thanks for the advice.

I predicted $20.8 million and I certainly did not expect the smallest rise in the Top 10 on Friday.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
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Chicken Little = similar to last year's Spongebob funnily enough. A drop on Thursday and then a huge increase on Friday.

Walk the Line is heading towards a bigger drop than I thought.

Rent will have the worst Wednesday-to-5-day-multiplier that I can remember in the past years. It'll be below 4. That is really really really bad.


Exactly how much were you predicting for Walk the Line?

And why are you always calling into question the film's prowess? ("Bigger drop than I thought", "The biggest drop!"). Get a hold of yourself, dudette.


No, but thanks for the advice.

I predicted $20.8 million and I certainly did not expect the smallest rise in the Top 10 on Friday.


I guess the fact that it made more yesterday than it did opening day does not matter as much as having the smallest rise of all films in the top 10.

The heck.


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Libs wrote:
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Chicken Little = similar to last year's Spongebob funnily enough. A drop on Thursday and then a huge increase on Friday.

Walk the Line is heading towards a bigger drop than I thought.

Rent will have the worst Wednesday-to-5-day-multiplier that I can remember in the past years. It'll be below 4. That is really really really bad.


Exactly how much were you predicting for Walk the Line?

And why are you always calling into question the film's prowess? ("Bigger drop than I thought", "The biggest drop!"). Get a hold of yourself, dudette.


No, but thanks for the advice.

I predicted $20.8 million and I certainly did not expect the smallest rise in the Top 10 on Friday.


I guess the fact that it made more yesterday than it did opening day does not matter as much as having the smallest rise of all films in the top 10.

The heck.


Uh, it is not like it is the first time movies make more on the Thanksgiving Friday than the opening Friday. We do know that the multiplier will be worse, though.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:

Uh, it is not like it is the first time movies make more on the Thanksgiving Friday than the opening Friday. We do know that the multiplier will be worse, though.


I'm not stupid. I'm calling into question why you seem to be making it sound like Walk the Line did poorly when that is hardly the case.

Is someone bitter because their original prediction was proved wrong?

I think soooooo....


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Libs wrote:
I'm not stupid. I'm calling into question why you seem to be making it sound like Walk the Line did poorly when that is hardly the case.

Is someone bitter because their original prediction was proved wrong?

I think soooooo....


I don't.

Thus, you are wrong :)

My original prediction was "below $100 million" while yours was "above" and we shall see which one comes true. Too bad I won't be able to send you to a movie, I'd like to know what you'd think of Bloodrayne.

I don't make it seem like anything, it's just that you continuously seem to misinterpret comments that concern movie you are biased towards (may I remember you of Cinderella Man the last time). All I meant was that I personally expected a bigger increase and a Friday of above $8 million for sure and that not only after Thursday's number, but also after Wednesday's number as that is what I based my predictions on.

It is a personal disappointment in my eyes and thus none of your business to care.

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
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Chicken Little = similar to last year's Spongebob funnily enough. A drop on Thursday and then a huge increase on Friday.

Walk the Line is heading towards a bigger drop than I thought.

Rent will have the worst Wednesday-to-5-day-multiplier that I can remember in the past years. It'll be below 4. That is really really really bad.


Exactly how much were you predicting for Walk the Line?

And why are you always calling into question the film's prowess? ("Bigger drop than I thought", "The biggest drop!"). Get a hold of yourself, dudette.


No, but thanks for the advice.

I predicted $20.8 million


That's not that far off. Absolute worst case senario (10% drop Sat, 50% drop Sun), WTL makes about 18 mil. I expect 19-19.5 mil.


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That's not that far off. Absolute worst case senario (10% drop Sat, 50% drop Sun), WTL makes about 18 mil. I expect 19-19.5 mil.


In terms of percentage, that is further off, than I'd prefer. I see $18 million for the weekend. It won't drop much on Saturday, but I expect the Sunday drop-off to be pretty big (around 50%).

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Libs wrote:
I guess the fact that it made more yesterday than it did opening day does not matter as much as having the smallest rise of all films in the top 10.

The heck.


I don't get that either, but anybody that knows anything about box office definitely sees that as one kick ass Friday for Walk the Line, and I'd say it also answers the question about the strong WOM that's being generated.


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
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That's not that far off. Absolute worst case senario (10% drop Sat, 50% drop Sun), WTL makes about 18 mil. I expect 19-19.5 mil.


In terms of percentage, that is further off, than I'd prefer. I see $18 million for the weekend. It won't drop much on Saturday, but I expect the Sunday drop-off to be pretty big (around 50%).


Well, if it drops less than 10% Sat, it's WK will be much higher than 18m.

Fri 7.8
Sat 7.4 (-5%)
Sun 3.7 (-50%)
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Hmmm, I wonder where I said that the Friday gross was bad.

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Walk the Line could have a small increase today. Look at last year - most adult-targeted movies other than the extremely frontloaded Alexander increased on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.

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Thank god RENT increased from Thursday. I hope it has a solid multiplier this weekend.


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Thank god RENT increased from Thursday. I hope it has a solid multiplier this weekend.


Was there ever any doubt? :huh:


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Jeff 42 wrote:
Walk the Line could have a small increase today. Look at last year - most adult-targeted movies other than the extremely frontloaded Alexander increased on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.


So do you mean to say...big...increase, not small?


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