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Joker's Thug #3
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People look into International figures way too much, studios I dont even think get half of the profit movies make internationally.
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The Dark Shape
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That's a hell of a group, considering it's going to top WOTW by $130 million domestically.
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Algren
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Well, those Star Wars nutcases go all the time dont they. When there not in a cinema watching a a Star Wars movie, there either at a Star Wars convention or waiting in line for the next one that just started shooting. Its pathetic.
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The Dark Shape
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There's that, and the fact it's a better movie.
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misutaa
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Great drop for Wedding Crasher I think that the drop this weekend will be about 22-27%
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El Maskado
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Killuminati510 wrote: People look into International figures way too much, studios I dont even think get half of the profit movies make internationally.
Exactly I dont want to sound too much like BKB here but the money that studios pocket overseas is only 30% I heard while the other theaters take in the rest of it.
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:44 pm |
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neo_wolf
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The Dark Shape wrote: There's that, and the fact it's a better movie.
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WOTW is the better film.
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:51 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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neo_wolf wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: There's that, and the fact it's a better movie. [-X WOTW is the better film.
Not according to film reviewers, IMDb, Yahoo, E! Online, or any other rating system, critics or otherwise
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neo_wolf
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The Dark Shape wrote: neo_wolf wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: There's that, and the fact it's a better movie. [-X WOTW is the better film. Not according to film reviewers, IMDb, Yahoo, E! Online, or any other rating system, critics or otherwise
According to me its the much better film,and thats what matters to me.
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The Dark Shape
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No! My opinion matters! Of course, I thought it'd top out under $200 million. So what do I know?
*skulks away*
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:19 pm |
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neo_wolf
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The Dark Shape wrote: No! My opinion matters! Of course, I thought it'd top out under $200 million. So what do I know?
*skulks away*
I thought it would make 450mill and ROTS close to 500mill.
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dolcevita
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The Dark Shape wrote: No! My opinion matters! Of course, I thought it'd top out under $200 million. So what do I know?
*skulks away*
Yeah? At least you weren't dumb enough to place a bet on that number.
You have to see the silver lining on the storm cloud on occassion....
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Michael.
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Algren wrote: Thw worldwide figures will tell a different story.
Star Wars, call that a monster? hahahahahaha It was a film that made its money because of a group of wankers see it 2,000 times in theatres.
You really know how to make friends considering all people in the history of all things ever have seen Episode III.
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Michael.
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Snrub wrote: Charlie crosses $150 million. Awesome. Awesome to the max. $200 million has to be a lock at this point.
In other news, I'll finally be seeing the sure-to-be-bestest-thing-ever Charlie and the Chocolate factory tomorrow afternoon. It's been a tough two and a half weeks, but the wait's almost over and I'm in a perpetual state of arousal just thinking about it.
Whether the film turns out to be good or bad, one thing's for certain, loyal's a dead man... <<adds Snrub to list of potential assassins>> 1. Gary Lucy2. Aaron Spelling 3. Kofi Annan 4. Penn 5. Teller 6. Snrub
Im so hoping you dont mean the British actor.
And Killuminati510 ; studios dont get half of the box office gross from DOMESTIC films; usually they bank between 45%-60% of its theatrical gross.
Offshores is no different - except sometimes studios just "sell" the rights to a picture if they think they can profit from the rights more as handling a picture is an additional expense.
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Dr. Lecter
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Michael wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Snrub wrote: Charlie crosses $150 million. Awesome. Awesome to the max. $200 million has to be a lock at this point.
In other news, I'll finally be seeing the sure-to-be-bestest-thing-ever Charlie and the Chocolate factory tomorrow afternoon. It's been a tough two and a half weeks, but the wait's almost over and I'm in a perpetual state of arousal just thinking about it.
Whether the film turns out to be good or bad, one thing's for certain, loyal's a dead man... <<adds Snrub to list of potential assassins>> 1. Gary Lucy2. Aaron Spelling 3. Kofi Annan 4. Penn 5. Teller 6. Snrub Im so hoping you dont mean the British actor. And Killuminati510 ; studios dont get half of the box office gross from DOMESTIC films; usually they bank between 45%-60% of its theatrical gross. Offshores is no different - except sometimes studios just "sell" the rights to a picture if they think they can profit from the rights more as handling a picture is an additional expense.
Usually the studios get around 55% and as far as my math goes, that's more than a half
Studios, however, do get less from the overseas distribution, but still more than 30%, I believe. More like 35-40%. Or they sell rights, like Michael has said.
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Joker's Thug #3
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First 3weeks domestic the studios get around 80% of the gross, in 3 weeks a movie makes most of it's gross already, except if it's a movie with huge legs like WC, after 3 weeks it drops more and more. So yeah maybe a studio gets around 50% of the total gross WORLDWIDE because internationally studios only take in around 30%.
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Michael wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Snrub wrote: Charlie crosses $150 million. Awesome. Awesome to the max. $200 million has to be a lock at this point.
In other news, I'll finally be seeing the sure-to-be-bestest-thing-ever Charlie and the Chocolate factory tomorrow afternoon. It's been a tough two and a half weeks, but the wait's almost over and I'm in a perpetual state of arousal just thinking about it.
Whether the film turns out to be good or bad, one thing's for certain, loyal's a dead man... <<adds Snrub to list of potential assassins>> 1. Gary Lucy2. Aaron Spelling 3. Kofi Annan 4. Penn 5. Teller 6. Snrub Im so hoping you dont mean the British actor.
Most of that cast wants me dead.
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STEVE ROGERS
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Re: Mondays numbers.
neo_wolf wrote: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
1.Wedding Crashers:3.325 2.Charlie and the chocolate factory:2.832 3.Sky High:2.222 4.Stealth:1.613 5.Must love dogs:1.541 6.The Island:.974 7.Fantastic 4:.937 8.Bad news bears:.937 9.War of the worlds:.731 10.March of the penguins:.629
I wonder if Wedding Crashers will become another FOCKERS type of movie with amazing legs to propel it past 200 Million?? And looks like BATMAN will have to do everything it can, along with WB to push this movie past 200 Million to since it's crawling to the finish line...
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STEVE ROGERS
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: People look into International figures way too much, studios I dont even think get half of the profit movies make internationally. Exactly I dont want to sound too much like BKB here but the money that studios pocket overseas is only 30% I heard while the other theaters take in the rest of it.
You just did and the fact is, is what I've been saying all along in that WORLDWIDE isn't the measure for a films success but DOMESTICALLY is what matters the most.. Folks only concentrate on WORLDWIDE on the internet to make it look like the movie's made more than what it really has and is nothing more than a way of turning a movie that's a potential bomb into a success by throwing WORLDWIDE into it..
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: Mondays numbers.
BKB_The_Man wrote: neo_wolf wrote: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
1.Wedding Crashers:3.325 2.Charlie and the chocolate factory:2.832 3.Sky High:2.222 4.Stealth:1.613 5.Must love dogs:1.541 6.The Island:.974 7.Fantastic 4:.937 8.Bad news bears:.937 9.War of the worlds:.731 10.March of the penguins:.629 I wonder if Wedding Crashers will become another FOCKERS type of movie with amazing legs to propel it past 200 Million?? And looks like BATMAN will have to do everything it can, along with WB to push this movie past 200 Million to since it's crawling to the finish line...
It won't need a push to pass $200 million. By Thursday, it'll stand at $197 million at least. Now let's say it'll drop 50% next weekend (but notice, BKB, it has NEVER dropped 50% in its run so far. Not a single time!). But let's assume it does. So if it does, it'll still stand at a bit over $198 million when the weekend's over. The weekdays next week, will give it another $0.8 million at least, putting it at $198.8 million by next Thursday. Let's say it drops another 50%, so it'll stand at $199.5 million (at the very least) when the weekend's over and it'll be still making over $0.5 million a weekend.
That's the worst case scenario and even that has Batman passing $200 million within the next 2-3 weeks. So how exactly is that "pushing"?
Also, BKB, now that you think back, you were quite wrong afterall, weren't you? You said it'd barely make $180 million and that when it already was at over $130 million and you ruled out $200 million. Now it's on track to $205 million, maybe more. Fantastic Four didn't "destroy" it. In fact, F4 will end up with around $50 million less than Batman. What would you say about that?
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wanderer
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Here we go with the old "Does International Box Office Really Matter?" debate. I find it hard to believe that anyone could think it didn't. Well I suppose it has to do with the type of movie, but clearly (in my own mind anyway) there are movies that aren't going to do well in the US but make plenty of money overseas. Do you think they're gonna stop making epics because movies like KOH and King Arthur made around $50 mil here but over $200 mil WW?
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Nazgul9
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wanderer wrote: Here we go with the old "Does International Box Office Really Matter?" debate. I find it hard to believe that anyone could think it didn't.
Ignorants...
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STEVE ROGERS
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Re: Mondays numbers.
Dr. Lecter wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: neo_wolf wrote: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
1.Wedding Crashers:3.325 2.Charlie and the chocolate factory:2.832 3.Sky High:2.222 4.Stealth:1.613 5.Must love dogs:1.541 6.The Island:.974 7.Fantastic 4:.937 8.Bad news bears:.937 9.War of the worlds:.731 10.March of the penguins:.629 I wonder if Wedding Crashers will become another FOCKERS type of movie with amazing legs to propel it past 200 Million?? And looks like BATMAN will have to do everything it can, along with WB to push this movie past 200 Million to since it's crawling to the finish line...It won't need a push to pass $200 million. By Thursday, it'll stand at $197 million at least. Now let's say it'll drop 50% next weekend (but notice, BKB, it has NEVER dropped 50% in its run so far. Not a single time!). But let's assume it does. So if it does, it'll still stand at a bit over $198 million when the weekend's over. The weekdays next week, will give it another $0.8 million at least, putting it at $198.8 million by next Thursday. Let's say it drops another 50%, so it'll stand at $199.5 million (at the very least) when the weekend's over and it'll be still making over $0.5 million a weekend. That's the worst case scenario and even that has Batman passing $200 million within the next 2-3 weeks. So how exactly is that "pushing"? Also, BKB, now that you think back, you were quite wrong afterall, weren't you? You said it'd barely make $180 million and that when it already was at over $130 million and you ruled out $200 million. Now it's on track to $205 million, maybe more. Fantastic Four didn't "destroy" it. In fact, F4 will end up with around $50 million less than Batman. What would you say about that?
Yeah, I did say that and I'm surprised it reached the number it has at this point because it definitely wasn't worth anymore than 2 viewings at best and 1 was pushing it enough as it stands and it's also obvious from various members here who haven't seen it more than once because it's slow and does border on becoming tedious in the 1st act and not worth sitting through again.. However, saying this will make more than 205 Million like your implying is insane.. It's barely gonna pass 200 Million as it stands and not do so that quickly.. I see WB Execs taking up a Collection to push it past that otherwise the media will call it underwhelming if it doesn't pass 200 Million and there not gonna have that..
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: Mondays numbers.
BKB_The_Man wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: neo_wolf wrote: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
1.Wedding Crashers:3.325 2.Charlie and the chocolate factory:2.832 3.Sky High:2.222 4.Stealth:1.613 5.Must love dogs:1.541 6.The Island:.974 7.Fantastic 4:.937 8.Bad news bears:.937 9.War of the worlds:.731 10.March of the penguins:.629 I wonder if Wedding Crashers will become another FOCKERS type of movie with amazing legs to propel it past 200 Million?? And looks like BATMAN will have to do everything it can, along with WB to push this movie past 200 Million to since it's crawling to the finish line...It won't need a push to pass $200 million. By Thursday, it'll stand at $197 million at least. Now let's say it'll drop 50% next weekend (but notice, BKB, it has NEVER dropped 50% in its run so far. Not a single time!). But let's assume it does. So if it does, it'll still stand at a bit over $198 million when the weekend's over. The weekdays next week, will give it another $0.8 million at least, putting it at $198.8 million by next Thursday. Let's say it drops another 50%, so it'll stand at $199.5 million (at the very least) when the weekend's over and it'll be still making over $0.5 million a weekend. That's the worst case scenario and even that has Batman passing $200 million within the next 2-3 weeks. So how exactly is that "pushing"? Also, BKB, now that you think back, you were quite wrong afterall, weren't you? You said it'd barely make $180 million and that when it already was at over $130 million and you ruled out $200 million. Now it's on track to $205 million, maybe more. Fantastic Four didn't "destroy" it. In fact, F4 will end up with around $50 million less than Batman. What would you say about that? Yeah, I did say that and I'm surprised it reached the number it has at this point because it definitely wasn't worth anymore than 2 viewings at best and 1 was pushing it enough as it stands and it's also obvious from various members here who haven't seen it more than once because it's slow and does border on becoming tedious in the 1st act and not worth sitting through again.. However, saying this will make more than 205 Million like your implying is insane.. It's barely gonna pass 200 Million as it stands and not do so that quickly.. I see WB Execs taking up a Collection to push it past that otherwise the media will call it underwhelming if it doesn't pass 200 Million and there not gonna have that..
BKB, even if it starts dropping 50% every weekend from now on without any extra push whatsoever, it will pass $200 million, don't you realize it?
It stands at $196.5 million. It made $2.4 million last weekend. It needs $3.5 million to pass $200 milllion. How on earth could it not make it?
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STEVE ROGERS
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Re: Mondays numbers.
Dr. Lecter wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: neo_wolf wrote: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
1.Wedding Crashers:3.325 2.Charlie and the chocolate factory:2.832 3.Sky High:2.222 4.Stealth:1.613 5.Must love dogs:1.541 6.The Island:.974 7.Fantastic 4:.937 8.Bad news bears:.937 9.War of the worlds:.731 10.March of the penguins:.629 I wonder if Wedding Crashers will become another FOCKERS type of movie with amazing legs to propel it past 200 Million?? And looks like BATMAN will have to do everything it can, along with WB to push this movie past 200 Million to since it's crawling to the finish line...It won't need a push to pass $200 million. By Thursday, it'll stand at $197 million at least. Now let's say it'll drop 50% next weekend (but notice, BKB, it has NEVER dropped 50% in its run so far. Not a single time!). But let's assume it does. So if it does, it'll still stand at a bit over $198 million when the weekend's over. The weekdays next week, will give it another $0.8 million at least, putting it at $198.8 million by next Thursday. Let's say it drops another 50%, so it'll stand at $199.5 million (at the very least) when the weekend's over and it'll be still making over $0.5 million a weekend. That's the worst case scenario and even that has Batman passing $200 million within the next 2-3 weeks. So how exactly is that "pushing"? Also, BKB, now that you think back, you were quite wrong afterall, weren't you? You said it'd barely make $180 million and that when it already was at over $130 million and you ruled out $200 million. Now it's on track to $205 million, maybe more. Fantastic Four didn't "destroy" it. In fact, F4 will end up with around $50 million less than Batman. What would you say about that? Yeah, I did say that and I'm surprised it reached the number it has at this point because it definitely wasn't worth anymore than 2 viewings at best and 1 was pushing it enough as it stands and it's also obvious from various members here who haven't seen it more than once because it's slow and does border on becoming tedious in the 1st act and not worth sitting through again.. However, saying this will make more than 205 Million like your implying is insane.. It's barely gonna pass 200 Million as it stands and not do so that quickly.. I see WB Execs taking up a Collection to push it past that otherwise the media will call it underwhelming if it doesn't pass 200 Million and there not gonna have that..BKB, even if it starts dropping 50% every weekend from now on without any extra push whatsoever, it will pass $200 million, don't you realize it? It stands at $196.5 million. It made $2.4 million last weekend. It needs $3.5 million to pass $200 milllion. How on earth could it not make it?
I never said it wouldn't make it, but it will barely squeek by in doing so, meaning once this hits 200 Million even barely doing so and it's over.. You can only squeeze so much blood out of a turnip..
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