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zingy
College Boy Z
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BKB, Batman Begins will break $3 million this weekend with ease.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:16 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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RogueCommander wrote: Actually BKB, most films increase on Saturdays, after their opening weekend when it is not uncommon to see certain genres drop slightly.
Now wait a second.. That's not what someone said last weekend when I predicted WEDDING CRASHERS to do 50 Million for the weekend in that thread I made.. I forgot what it made on it's 1st day and I said it would increase on Saturday and someone said that Saturday's generally drop then the 1st day the film opens.. I believe itr might've been Mike or Baumer..
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:16 pm |
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Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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BKB_The_Man wrote: RogueCommander wrote: Actually BKB, most films increase on Saturdays, after their opening weekend when it is not uncommon to see certain genres drop slightly. Now wait a second.. That's not what someone said last weekend when I predicted WEDDING CRASHERS to do 50 Million for the weekend in that thread I made.. I forgot what it made on it's 1st day and I said it would increase on Saturday and someone said that Saturday's generally drop then the 1st day the film opens.. I believe itr might've been Mike or Baumer..
For some films yes, their first Saturday will often times drop. However usually for a films second Saturday it will increase.
Some genres that are likely to drop on their first Saturday: Summer action films, horror films, suprise twist films (if the twist is poorly received), "R" rated comedies.
Those are the most common.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:18 pm |
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xXVincentxX
La Bella Vito
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Absolutely amazing numbers for Charlie and Wedding Crashers. Also, Batman is holding up well, as is War of the Worlds and Mr. and Mrs. Smith. I'm always surprised by March of the Penguins, its doing extraordinary. Is it possible Wedding Crashers can be number one this week, and beat Charlie? I don't think its that far of a stretch, it definitely has a chance. That's really too bad for The Island, it was a fantastic movie. I guess the marketing wasn't interesting enough for the general public.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:59 pm |
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Michael.
No Wire Tampons!
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so NO ONE thinks it to be suspicous that a few box office websites pulled out VERY oddly low predictions at the last minute and then THe Island bombs even worse than those low, low expectations?
In comparison...Elektra made more in its first friday in January....and we all know how much certain people made fun of THAT one Elektra also cost less than half of what The Island did; and featured a female star in the lead. Basically...The Island is a bigger bomb than Elektra at this stage. Hell its even bigger a bomb than Gigli! :razz: ](*,)
On another note i had tipped Wedding Crashers for good legs earlier in the year, but the bigger than expected start i thought would counter balance that. Seems not.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:54 pm |
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Maximus
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:46 am Posts: 8427 Location: floridaaa
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Michael wrote: so NO ONE thinks it to be suspicous that a few box office websites pulled out VERY oddly low predictions at the last minute and then THe Island bombs even worse than those low, low expectations? In comparison...Elektra made more in its first friday in January....and we all know how much certain people made fun of THAT one Elektra also cost less than half of what The Island did; and featured a female star in the lead. Basically...The Island is a bigger bomb than Elektra at this stage. Hell its even bigger a bomb than Gigli! :razz: ](*,) On another note i had tipped Wedding Crashers for good legs earlier in the year, but the bigger than expected start i thought would counter balance that. Seems not.
This thing cost 124m + marketing. I don't want to make this sound worse than it is, but it's three times, maybe four times, as costly as Elektra ](*,) Not Gigli bad, no.... but pretty damn sad.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:07 pm |
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misutaa
je vois l'avenir
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:33 pm Posts: 3841 Location: Hollywood/Berkeley, CA
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Well, I can't say I'm too surprised because I kindof expected it but I think that this is an awful weekend for the new openers. too bad. It could have been a huge weekend.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:41 pm |
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Michael.
No Wire Tampons!
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Maximus wrote: Michael wrote: so NO ONE thinks it to be suspicous that a few box office websites pulled out VERY oddly low predictions at the last minute and then THe Island bombs even worse than those low, low expectations? In comparison...Elektra made more in its first friday in January....and we all know how much certain people made fun of THAT one Elektra also cost less than half of what The Island did; and featured a female star in the lead. Basically...The Island is a bigger bomb than Elektra at this stage. Hell its even bigger a bomb than Gigli! :razz: ](*,) On another note i had tipped Wedding Crashers for good legs earlier in the year, but the bigger than expected start i thought would counter balance that. Seems not. This thing cost 124m + marketing. I don't want to make this sound worse than it is, but it's three times, maybe four times, as costly as Elektra ](*,) Not Gigli bad, no.... but pretty damn sad.
If The Island's production budget is $100m. Its safe to add at least $30m for marketing and distribution. $130m+
It will probobly outgross Elektra due to its summer release. Summer releases tend to hold up quite well and furthermore have the advantage of bolstered weekdays. But still..
Gigli cost $74m combined. Made $6m back. So i guess it is the bigger bomb. But Gigli's average is only $1,000 less per site on the same friday.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:47 pm |
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Maximus
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:46 am Posts: 8427 Location: floridaaa
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Michael wrote: Maximus wrote: Michael wrote: so NO ONE thinks it to be suspicous that a few box office websites pulled out VERY oddly low predictions at the last minute and then THe Island bombs even worse than those low, low expectations? In comparison...Elektra made more in its first friday in January....and we all know how much certain people made fun of THAT one Elektra also cost less than half of what The Island did; and featured a female star in the lead. Basically...The Island is a bigger bomb than Elektra at this stage. Hell its even bigger a bomb than Gigli! :razz: ](*,) On another note i had tipped Wedding Crashers for good legs earlier in the year, but the bigger than expected start i thought would counter balance that. Seems not. This thing cost 124m + marketing. I don't want to make this sound worse than it is, but it's three times, maybe four times, as costly as Elektra ](*,) Not Gigli bad, no.... but pretty damn sad. If The Island's production budget is $100m. Its safe to add at least $30m for marketing and distribution. $130m+ Gigli cost $74m combined. Made $6m back. So i guess it is the bigger bomb. But Gigli's average is only $1,000 less per site on the same friday.
Yeah, I heard the budget was 124+ from an interview with Michael Bay... about how he was really pissed at how the studios are treating the Island. And you're probably right, it doesn't look like they spent more than 30m on the marketing.
Ugh. Waste of BAD marketing, too.
And I guess the movie isn't even that bad? ](*,)
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:49 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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The Island will make $40+ million total, plus a good amount worldwide, I think/hope.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:49 pm |
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Maximus
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Zingaling wrote: The Island will make $40+ million total, plus a good amount worldwide, I think/hope.
Who's dealing with it overseas? I hope it isn't WB... ](*,)
If it's given a chance, this could pull a "Kingdom of Heaven" overseas, and get a respectable WW gross.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:50 pm |
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misutaa
je vois l'avenir
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Michael wrote: If The Island's production budget is $100m. Its safe to add at least $30m for marketing and distribution. $130m+
It will probobly outgross Elektra due to its summer release. Summer releases tend to hold up quite well and furthermore have the advantage of bolstered weekdays. But still.. .
Where in the world did you get that from. It more like the other way around. Summer releases drop like rocks.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:51 pm |
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misutaa
je vois l'avenir
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Zingaling wrote: The Island will make $40+ million total, plus a good amount worldwide, I think/hope.
I think that it will finish 30-40m. Which is really sad seeing as people thought it would make that in its opening weekend.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:52 pm |
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Maximus
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Misutaa Supaakoru wrote: Michael wrote: If The Island's production budget is $100m. Its safe to add at least $30m for marketing and distribution. $130m+
It will probobly outgross Elektra due to its summer release. Summer releases tend to hold up quite well and furthermore have the advantage of bolstered weekdays. But still.. . Where in the world did you get that from. It more like the other way around. Summer releases drop like rocks.
Yea. Fights over screens. Too much competetion.... The Island is screwed. You've got big movies targeting the same audience on their way next weekend and beyond. This baby isn't going to recover at ALL from a bad opening.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:53 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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If you guys haven't noticed, this summer has been one of the most leggiest summers of the past few years. Plus, better weekdays do kind of make up for bigger drops during the weekend...
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:55 pm |
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misutaa
je vois l'avenir
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:33 pm Posts: 3841 Location: Hollywood/Berkeley, CA
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Maximus wrote: Misutaa Supaakoru wrote: Michael wrote: If The Island's production budget is $100m. Its safe to add at least $30m for marketing and distribution. $130m+
It will probobly outgross Elektra due to its summer release. Summer releases tend to hold up quite well and furthermore have the advantage of bolstered weekdays. But still.. . Where in the world did you get that from. It more like the other way around. Summer releases drop like rocks. Yea. Fights over screens. Too much competetion.... The Island is screwed. You've got big movies targeting the same audience on their way next weekend and beyond. This baby isn't going to recover at ALL from a bad opening.
thats another one of the biggest reason for the flop.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:56 pm |
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misutaa
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Zingaling wrote: If you guys haven't noticed, this summer has been one of the most leggiest summers of the past few years. Plus, better weekdays do kind of make up for bigger drops during the weekend...
Yea, I noticed, both BB and M&MS had amazing legs. Even WOTW isn't dropping too badly.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:57 pm |
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Michael.
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Zingaling wrote: If you guys haven't noticed, this summer has been one of the most leggiest summers of the past few years. Plus, better weekdays do kind of make up for bigger drops during the weekend...
There we go.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:57 pm |
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El Maskado
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The Island's situation in a way reminds me so much of Waterworld. Both movies are disasters in proportion but at least Waterworld was able to break even when it was released overseas. They better find a way to market the movie overseas because Ewan isnt in the same league as Kevin Costner was 10 years ago(yes Kevin use to be a huge star back in the late 80s early 90s hard to believe)
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:03 am |
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Harry Warden
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It would make some sense if Ewan was bigger overseas than domestic, wouldn't it? Isn't he British? The film may cross 100 million worldwide when all is said and done.
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:26 am |
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Kris K
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Woohoo, even CATWOMAN made $5M more from LESS theatres last year.
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:01 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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mansonmyers wrote: Woohoo, even CATWOMAN made $5M more from LESS theatres last year.
\:D/
Add inflation too. =D>
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