Hype is definitely real. The Internet has been crazy for the last week. Accounts cannot stop posting about it, its comparisons to Man of Steel and the rest of the Superman alumni, etc. etc. I've also seen suddenly a belovedness for Man of Steel that just did not exist in 2013. I've always loved it so I am pleased for this, but it's a bit late, Netizenhood!

It’s just the Snyder cult that pretends to love MOS.

I agree. Except a small Snyder cult I dont think it has aged well at all. Its everything a Superman movie should not be. I got a migraine watching the climax of that movie. Unrelenting and boring. Among the Snyder movies, I prefer the director cut of BvS over MOS. That said none of his movies are good. It was huge mismanagement giving him keys to JL after BvS was a failure.

MOS was a clear overcorrection from Superman Returns and absolutely has its fans. Had MOS been a Marvel movie, it would have a 75% on RT, critics held it to ridiculous standards. It was a much better film than "Pepper pots gets super powers/Tony retires and then later forgets he did in future films Iron Man 3 and yet the RT score was totally different.

Critics watching MOS were legit "OMG this is not obviously as good as Nolan's iconic masterpieces, therefore it must suck!".

What is a shame about MOS is they had a very strong story and approach to the film, it just needed some very minor tweaks to the script together from "good" to" Great" territory, and a different director. JJ Abrams or even Michael Bay with the same cast no doubt deliver a more crowd pleasing film. Snyder wanted Cavill to look like ultra pale and miserable Edward Cullen and hated bright colors. That could have been. A more traditionally colored MOS suit is still the GOAT Supes costume that I have seen.

The first Man of Steel sold itself as something it was not. Go back and watch those first trailers. Not only were they trying to be a Nolanly as possible, but were also using imagery similiar to the recently released Tree of Life. The actual movie was neither of those things. And all the better in my opinion. I wanted a Zack Snyder take on Superman and thats what i got. But most people were going into it expecting a grounded take on Superman and instead were immediately greeted with that crazy balls opening sequence on Krypton that goes on for like 30 minutes.

They did this again with Suicide Squad, selling it as "DC Guardians!!" when it was really just a very messy Will Smith actioner. Batman vs Superman went the other extreme when they just unloaded everything they had into the marketing. They won Comic Con that year, but had nothing left for the audience when the movie actually opened and thus got poor WoM.

The whole extended universe was a mess and should be studied as what not to do when building a cinematic universe.

A lot of buildings died that day.

I remember seeing MoS with people and confused when I was the only one who loved it lol. I still think it's severely underrated.

MOS needed some humor in it badly.

No it did not. Not every film needs to aspire to the MCU you know. Man of Steel is perfectly fine as it is. It made loads of money, it is the best film in the DCEU. It did its job.

The 'need for humor' mentality caused Josstice League.

I would disagree with this. Even serious films need levity. Otherwise it comes across as cold, distant and unrelatabke.

The Dark Knight Trilogy has humor. Saying a film “needs humor” is not akin to saying it needs MCU style constant quipping.

TO YOU!!

You are not everyone. Films are made for more personality types than just yours. Or Excels.

Any I'll say it again, not every film needs to copy the MCU. Not every film needs to copy The Dark Knight either. There is value in variety. And MoS being serious didn't hurt its commerciality. It made tons of money.

And I would argue it did have humour. Once again, humour is not black or white. You are wanting Thor to arrive and crack wise, but Man of Steel's humour was more subtle. The construction days is humour, the "that's not an S" is humour, the truck with loads of trees jammed into it is humour, and so on.

It is a serious and epic film. Overt humour would have undermined its core ambition.

Whether it's a humor take or not, they have to try something that's not just Superman is perfect muscular hunk that saves people in visual effects scene, talks to Jonathan Kent on farm, another visual effects scene, Lois Lane is in danger, Superman fights villain, end of movie. It's just not as appealing conflict wise as Spiderman and Batman's movies.

There were a few funny parts. I laughed when Clark trashed the bully's car and Amy's "here its an S" quip.

Exactly

Fine. It's not for you. Move on. Go watch Batman Forever.

MoS was an excellent film, a little bit misunderstood by me too the first time I saw it but I've grown to like it more. Just the ending is its only downfall still, if it was less cgi-disaster-porn and just managed some set-piece everyone would talk about in a positive sense it could have been a really epic film around. Still nothing from the DCEU has come close.

I enjoyed MOS overall.
3rd act battle in Metropolis was nutz. It turned into a video game madness.

So much money we got Man of Steel 2 and Batman/the entire Justice League weren’t shoehorned into the next one.

Anyone saying MOS didn’t need more humor doesn’t understand what the film needed to be. It needed to have true mass appeal and that requires a slightly less serious tone. It didn’t need to be overly cheesey or gimmicky, but the Nolan TDK series uses dry humor from Caine and Freeman (and obviously the Joker in film 2 & catwoman on film 3) to create many chuckles and keep the overly somber vibe in check. MOS had maybe 2 true chuckle moments, and “here it’s an S” joke was more awkward, “I think that only counts when kissing humans” remains one of the worst jokes ever put in a major film. The only outright funny moment was the truck on the telephone. It badly badly needed a few more witty comments squeezed in somewhere. The overly seriousness tone contributed to the outrage at the films end disaster porn while sillier marvel films received a less judgmental perspective. Too large of a percentage of people punished MOS for its ambition. It’s WOM definitely would have benefited from a slight tone shift.

“Look closely at Henry Cavill’s dick!” ~ John Campea

Mos has great action scenes and thats about it.

I enjoyed all the quiet scenes with Joe-El and Martha & Jonathan Clark.

The casting was great, I could have honestly watched a whole film of Crowe.

Glad to see Excel has not changed one bit.

This will bomb.