What films, if made today would be huge hits?
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El Maskado
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Well, the remake is, indeed, in works.
Are we talking about Clash of the Titans? I havent heard anything about a remake and I frequent the Clash of the Titans imdb board too. Mind providing a link, I dont want to give my hopes up. :wink:
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Dr. Lecter
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Well, the remake is, indeed, in works. Are we talking about Clash of the Titans? I havent heard anything about a remake and I frequent the Clash of the Titans imdb board too. Mind providing a link, I dont want to give my hopes up. :wink:
Well, it is being rewritten for over two years now and at some point Stephen Sommers was up to direct, but probably not anymore.
Here are some links:
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/361/361391p1.html
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main ... 09.30.film
But, yeah, it's still in development hell.
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Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.
I tell ya, if that movie were released today, it'd be a phenomenon, nay bonanza, of box-office.
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Snrub wrote: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.
I tell ya, if that movie were released today, it'd be a phenomenon, nay bonanza, of box-office.
Too bad then, it is not being released today but this coming Friday. :wink:
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Fight Club was to smart for most mainstream audiences when it came out,it came out when the dumbing down of the average person was in full effect,It would do much today also but i believe that if it were made about the time pulp fiction was made that it would have been a great hit.
I think The Shawshank Redemption would have crossed 100mill easy today.
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neo_wolf wrote: I think The Shawshank Redemption would have crossed 100mill easy today.
Yup
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DP07
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-I'd go with something like Enemy of the State. I think it would open around 50m today and finish with nearly 170m.
-I'd also say that Swordfish would be a 100m+ hit.
-X-men obviously, but that one's easy since it didn't get much marketing support from FOX back in 2000.
-Antz would make 150m+ today IMO. Dreamworks would give it a much larger marketing campaign.
-An obvious one would be Princess Mononoke which could make at least 10m today. Spirited Away would be closer to 15m today IMO.
-I hate to say it, but Speed 2 would probably get over 70m the way sequels are increasingly marketed.
-I believe The Crow would get over 100m.
I think most films would get alot less then they did.
Although Fight Club is my favorite movie of all time, I think it would bomb in the US today as well. No way they could successfully market it IMO.
As for Rounders, I don't think it's all that marketable either, so I'd go with the same gross.
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El Maskado
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DP07 wrote: -I believe The Crow would get over 100m.
 Hmmm Its kind of hard to go through Brandon Lee's grave and pull a Weekend at Bernie's on him when doing the Crow
No wait scratch that out. They probably have safer regulations now and the bullet shot would of been CGI thus avoiding his death
Tasteless bastard am I? :wink:
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Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:09 pm |
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El Maskado
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Hear me out on this
With the success of 8 Miles, the original wigger movie Cool As Ice was released in the wrong time. It wasnt cool back then for a rich white kid from Huntington Beach to act all black and rap. And to have that skill to act in a movie, he was ahead of his time and no one understood him even giving him a razzie. But since 8 Miles came out, it has shown that a honky kid who acts all black can also get critical claim for his performance of a rapper in a movie and make so much money
We salute you Cool As Ice
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Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:13 pm |
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baumer72 wrote: Rounders would make a lot more today because the interest poker has skyrocketed. With more interest in the game comes more of a possibility that people would want to go the theater to watch a movie about it. That is just common sense.
Common sense would say it would only make marginally more...because it just wasn't a very good movie. :wink:
Even if it was, the movie is not about poker. It is about a man's poker addiction, his cheating, and getting pummelled at the end. Doesn't matter if people like poker, it doesn't mean they would like to see a character piece where poker just serves as a vehicle to illustrate his obsession/downfall.
Maverick, as Kidrock pointed out, was more about the actually game, and also just had broad appeal since it was a fun movie. It might make a bit more if released today.
Shawshank, as people pointed out, would also make more.
But Rounders?...nope.
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I know without Conan more than likely Arnold would have never got much of a chance but then again, if somehow he had made it without those movies and they were made today especially after LOTR and a few other fantasy movies I have a feeling those would have made a good bit of cash.. I know I would like to see an up to date version *shrug*
Also prob Willow would follow the same reasons
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- The first Terminator
- The first Die Hard
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Hellcats of the Navy; starring George w. Bush.....
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Raging Bull.
It flopped when it came out in 1980 because of Rocky, it made around 25 m. I don't know what this gross will be when it's adjusted, but i guess if it was made today it would have grossed 100 m, at least. If Million Dollar Baby, which isn't half as good as Raging Bull, can reach 100 m, then Raging Bull can definitely reach it. Also, Scorsese is more popular nowdays tha in the 80's.
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baumer72
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dolcevita wrote: baumer72 wrote: Rounders would make a lot more today because the interest poker has skyrocketed. With more interest in the game comes more of a possibility that people would want to go the theater to watch a movie about it. That is just common sense. Common sense would say it would only make marginally more...because it just wasn't a very good movie. :wink: Even if it was, the movie is not about poker. It is about a man's poker addiction, his cheating, and getting pummelled at the end. Doesn't matter if people like poker, it doesn't mean they would like to see a character piece where poker just serves as a vehicle to illustrate his obsession/downfall. Maverick, as Kidrock pointed out, was more about the actually game, and also just had broad appeal since it was a fun movie. It might make a bit more if released today. Shawshank, as people pointed out, would also make more. But Rounders?...nope.
What you guys are failing to realize is that poker is so much bigger than most of you realize now. Everyone is playing it and the saturation factor is massive. The ratings for poker now are through the roof, poker book sales are hot and this leads me to believe that any movie about poker, especially one starring Matt Damon would be huge. Maybe you guys don't know much about poker, maybe you don't care about and that is fine, but I am enamoured with the whole world of poker and it's popularity has exploded. And to say that Rounders wasn't a good movie, sorry you feel that way, but I have always felt it is one of the most under rated movies of our time, even before poker was introduced to me. Rounders would easily cross 80 mill if released today.
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baumer72
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DP07 wrote: -I'd go with something like Enemy of the State. I think it would open around 50m today and finish with nearly 170m. -I'd also say that Swordfish would be a 100m+ hit. -X-men obviously, but that one's easy since it didn't get much marketing support from FOX back in 2000.
As for Rounders, I don't think it's all that marketable either, so I'd go with the same gross.
Swordfish would perhaps gross even less....Travolta isn't a draw really anymore.
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:27 am |
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DP07
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baumer72 wrote: DP07 wrote: -I'd go with something like Enemy of the State. I think it would open around 50m today and finish with nearly 170m. -I'd also say that Swordfish would be a 100m+ hit. -X-men obviously, but that one's easy since it didn't get much marketing support from FOX back in 2000.
As for Rounders, I don't think it's all that marketable either, so I'd go with the same gross. Swordfish would perhaps gross even less....Travolta isn't a draw really anymore.
Was he then? :wink:
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Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:36 am |
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baumer72
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DP07 wrote: baumer72 wrote: DP07 wrote: -I'd go with something like Enemy of the State. I think it would open around 50m today and finish with nearly 170m. -I'd also say that Swordfish would be a 100m+ hit. -X-men obviously, but that one's easy since it didn't get much marketing support from FOX back in 2000.
As for Rounders, I don't think it's all that marketable either, so I'd go with the same gross. Swordfish would perhaps gross even less....Travolta isn't a draw really anymore. Was he then? :wink:
He was still a little bit more of a draw then. Not much, you are right, but maybe just a little. lol
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Dr. Lecter
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baumer72 wrote: DP07 wrote: baumer72 wrote: DP07 wrote: -I'd go with something like Enemy of the State. I think it would open around 50m today and finish with nearly 170m. -I'd also say that Swordfish would be a 100m+ hit. -X-men obviously, but that one's easy since it didn't get much marketing support from FOX back in 2000.
As for Rounders, I don't think it's all that marketable either, so I'd go with the same gross. Swordfish would perhaps gross even less....Travolta isn't a draw really anymore. Was he then? :wink: He was still a little bit more of a draw then. Not much, you are right, but maybe just a little. lol
Well, Ladder 49, starring Travolta, outgrossed Swordfish, so...
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baumer72
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Ladder 49 wasn't marketed as a Travolta film.
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Dr. Lecter
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baumer72 wrote: Ladder 49 wasn't marketed as a Travolta film.
Neither was Swordfish. It was marketed as a "movie from the producer of The Matrix" (i.e. Joel Silver). Joel Silver's name even managed to catapult a Steven Seagal movie on the top of the box-office, back in 2001. They just showed some neat action in TV spots and trailers and some bullet time shots and that was enough.
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Dr. Lecter
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Okay, here are my picks for movies that would have been bigger its nowadays than they were when they were released:
L.A. Confidential - As xiayun already mentioned, this movie has so much going for it. Its cast is one of the best ever composed for a movie and it so perfectly fits the film. Kevin Spacey and Russell Crowe gained popularity big time since L.A. Confidential and Guy Pierce is a well-known name as well. James Cromwell, Kim Basinger and Danny DeVito complete the cast. In almost any other year, this movie would have swept the Oscars, but it had the "luck" of going up against Titanic in its year. The movie had splendid reviews and it is what I consider one of the most perfect movies ever made. It has a good amount of action and humor, an interesting plot, a very well-written screenplay, great acting and good direction. Nowadays, this movie would have crossed $100 million without trouble.
The Shawshank Redemption - This movie didn't even cross $30 million in its original release which is obviously an unbelievable shame. Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins as well as the reviews alone would have pushed this movie past that mark nowadays. I agree that it is still rather a hard sell. Prison movies aren't easily marketed, but I think that it'd have gotten more awards attention today and the WoM would spread much better. I see at least $80 million for this one.
Moulin Rouge - This movie made about $57 million at US-theatres. It had the "misfortune" of being the first. The first movie to revive the musical genre in years. It succeeeded, as Chicago, the next musical, grossed around $170 million next year. Moulin Rouge's release in June was not a wise decision. A fall/winter release, would have given it a slower start, but much better legs. I mean, the movie had great reviews while The Phantom of the Opera had rather sub-par ones. Yet, The Phantom of the Opera, managed to gross over $51 million domestically, just $6 million shy off Moulin Rouge. I believe that if released nowadays, Moulin Rouge would have topped $100 million.
Dogma - The studio almost dropped the ball on that movie releasing it in just 1,269 theatres. Yet, it managed to gross $30.8 million and became Kevin Smith's most successful movie. With its all-star cast of Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Salma Hayek, Linda Fiorentino, Chris Rock, Alan Rickman and others as well as some controversy around it and a wider, 2,000+ theatres release, I believe it could have made around $50 million.
Braveheart - Well, it made around $75 million domestically, but with Mel Gibson as the lead and several Oscars wins, it'd have easily broken $100 million nowadays. Heck, even The Patriot made over $110 million.
Conspiracy Theory - An action-thriller with Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts as the leads should be almost a lock for an opening bigger than $20 million, something that Conspiracy Theory managed. With good marketing I believe it'd make more than The Interpreter in its opening weekend and finish north of $90 million.
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baumer72 wrote: What you guys are failing to realize is that poker is so much bigger than most of you realize now. Everyone is playing it and the saturation factor is massive. The ratings for poker now are through the roof, poker book sales are hot and this leads me to believe that any movie about poker, especially one starring Matt Damon would be huge. Maybe you guys don't know much about poker, maybe you don't care about and that is fine, but I am enamoured with the whole world of poker and it's popularity has exploded. And to say that Rounders wasn't a good movie, sorry you feel that way, but I have always felt it is one of the most under rated movies of our time, even before poker was introduced to me. Rounders would easily cross 80 mill if released today.
Oh I know poker is huge now. I just think the tone and depressing aspects of the movie are what would keep it at around the same box office draw. I've noticed Rounders has a rental following, so it could do better because of who knows it, but I don't think it would do dramatically better because poker is big. Its just me, but I think this movie wasn't about poker per se, it was about Norton's obsessed character. So the question should be if there is more interest in that type of character.
Its like Hoop Dreams. On the surface I would say Hoop Dreams would make alot of money now because of basketball, but its more a character study of two inner city youths. So its primary pull is still going to be people who are into documentaries that explore youth and the urban landscape...not basketball. Basketball fans (of which their are many) did not, and still won't flock to this type of movie just because it has basketball in it. Same thing for Rounders.
The Matt Damon draw is interesting though. He's been big since Good Will Hunting of course, but somehow he's not a blockbuster. For people that follow movies very closely, we love him because he's like Redford. You know if they even chose to pick up the role, that the movie is probably decent. They have good taste. But I've never heard people flock to a movie because its a Damon vehicle the way they used to for say, Affleck movies.
@Lecter. L.A. confidential would make much more today. Mostly because people were deterred from it due to "violence" and in the last few years that type of movie has opened up so much that Confidential seems tame compared to movies like Sin City. Though I do think it actually helped that the stars weren't as big then. I think we liked the unknowns in the roles rather than a huge "star-studded" cast.
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I think it has helped to the perception people had of this movie, but as far as box-office goes, I think if all those stars were just as big as they are now, it'd have helped immensly.
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If we want to go even further back, I think a film like Dr. Strangelove will do very well today, even comparing to the original's inflation-adjusted gross, since the subject matter is still very much valid, and its humor hasn't aged at all the last time I watched it on DVD. There are other films similar to The Shawshank Redemption in the sense that they become much more appreciated over time, and they are good candidates for films which will gross a lot more today.
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