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Dr. Lecter
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BJ wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Robots will be underpredicted by many. The first reviews at RT give it the best rating possible and the trailers are very well-made. Besides that its the first big animated flick of the year. It'll do very very well. I expect no less than $48 million. But Williams aside, it sports no one near the calibur of the Shark Tale cast as far as drawing in the crowds, I've barely seen any ads (and I live with a bunch of toddlers who watch saturday morning cartoons), I don't think that robots are very appealing for kids, and Shark Tale had Shrek to help it out in a big way. Oh yeah, and no competition from a kids movie that will have made about 30 million the weekend before. I am rather shocked by those first two reviews go, I will have to up my prediction if they stay that good, though I'm sure they won't. From what I have seen, though, Robots looks to end up with rather good than bad reviews, unlike Shark Tale. Also, who really cares about the voice cast? I think their influence is overestimated. Seriously what was the last time a CGI animated feature made less than $40 million in its opening weekend? November, when you used the same argument that every CGI kids movie opens high no matter what for The Polar Express.  Honestly though, I think this has FAR less going for it then the most similar comparison of Ice Age from 2002. It opened to 46 million and was considered a huge hit, and don't forget, that got great reviews too. It also had something to attract the kids in the form of the little rat creature and all it's shenanigans, and it had no competition, whereas Robots has The Pacifier, which will make about 18-20 million next weekend. And I don't think the reviews mattered that much for Shark Tale, it had much more going for it besides the bad reviews which Robots does not. And Killuminati510, I'm not saying Robots doesn't have a lot of people in it. It's loaded with stars. But none of them really have any box office pull except for Robin Williams. Well, The Polar Express made the mistake of opening five days after The Incredibles. Then again, the low-ish opening weekend was made up by an amazing total gross which everyone on here uderpredicted  As I said, the voice cast really doesn't matter much for animated movies. Kids don't care if it's Mike Myers or Paul Giamatti voicing the movie. I think the trailers look really funny and The Pacifier won't hurt it as much as it will hurt The Pacifier. not everyone :razz:
You predicted $150 million, therefore underprediction :razz:
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BJ
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Dr. Lecter wrote: BJ wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Robots will be underpredicted by many. The first reviews at RT give it the best rating possible and the trailers are very well-made. Besides that its the first big animated flick of the year. It'll do very very well. I expect no less than $48 million. But Williams aside, it sports no one near the calibur of the Shark Tale cast as far as drawing in the crowds, I've barely seen any ads (and I live with a bunch of toddlers who watch saturday morning cartoons), I don't think that robots are very appealing for kids, and Shark Tale had Shrek to help it out in a big way. Oh yeah, and no competition from a kids movie that will have made about 30 million the weekend before. I am rather shocked by those first two reviews go, I will have to up my prediction if they stay that good, though I'm sure they won't. From what I have seen, though, Robots looks to end up with rather good than bad reviews, unlike Shark Tale. Also, who really cares about the voice cast? I think their influence is overestimated. Seriously what was the last time a CGI animated feature made less than $40 million in its opening weekend? November, when you used the same argument that every CGI kids movie opens high no matter what for The Polar Express.  Honestly though, I think this has FAR less going for it then the most similar comparison of Ice Age from 2002. It opened to 46 million and was considered a huge hit, and don't forget, that got great reviews too. It also had something to attract the kids in the form of the little rat creature and all it's shenanigans, and it had no competition, whereas Robots has The Pacifier, which will make about 18-20 million next weekend. And I don't think the reviews mattered that much for Shark Tale, it had much more going for it besides the bad reviews which Robots does not. And Killuminati510, I'm not saying Robots doesn't have a lot of people in it. It's loaded with stars. But none of them really have any box office pull except for Robin Williams. Well, The Polar Express made the mistake of opening five days after The Incredibles. Then again, the low-ish opening weekend was made up by an amazing total gross which everyone on here uderpredicted  As I said, the voice cast really doesn't matter much for animated movies. Kids don't care if it's Mike Myers or Paul Giamatti voicing the movie. I think the trailers look really funny and The Pacifier won't hurt it as much as it will hurt The Pacifier. not everyone :razz: You predicted $150 million, therefore underprediction :razz:
realy, ok lol but it was still higher than 95%-99% of most people that predicted the movie \:D/
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El Maskado
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MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Robots will be underpredicted by many. The first reviews at RT give it the best rating possible and the trailers are very well-made. Besides that its the first big animated flick of the year. It'll do very very well. I expect no less than $48 million. But Williams aside, it sports no one near the calibur of the Shark Tale cast as far as drawing in the crowds, I've barely seen any ads (and I live with a bunch of toddlers who watch saturday morning cartoons), I don't think that robots are very appealing for kids, and Shark Tale had Shrek to help it out in a big way. Oh yeah, and no competition from a kids movie that will have made about 30 million the weekend before. I am rather shocked by those first two reviews go, I will have to up my prediction if they stay that good, though I'm sure they won't.
Ice Age didnt exactly have any big movie star names either and it opened to 47 million. Ray Romono may be a big tv star but hes no movie star. Robots also has been getting better reactions than Shark Tales. Also have we not already underestimated kid CGI movies quite alot, this will open to at least 40 million
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MovieDude
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El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: MovieDude wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Robots will be underpredicted by many. The first reviews at RT give it the best rating possible and the trailers are very well-made. Besides that its the first big animated flick of the year. It'll do very very well. I expect no less than $48 million. But Williams aside, it sports no one near the calibur of the Shark Tale cast as far as drawing in the crowds, I've barely seen any ads (and I live with a bunch of toddlers who watch saturday morning cartoons), I don't think that robots are very appealing for kids, and Shark Tale had Shrek to help it out in a big way. Oh yeah, and no competition from a kids movie that will have made about 30 million the weekend before. I am rather shocked by those first two reviews go, I will have to up my prediction if they stay that good, though I'm sure they won't. Ice Age didnt exactly have any big movie star names either and it opened to 47 million. Ray Romono may be a big tv star but hes no movie star. Robots also has been getting better reactions than Shark Tales. Also have we not already underestimated kid CGI movies quite alot, this will open to at least 40 million
Yeah, but I don't think any of Robots stars (Williams aside) have more draw then Ice Age's actors. I don't know where you're getting the "it's been getting better reactions" either, kids ate up the Shark Tale trailers but it was completely silent when the Robots trailer came on with Shark Tale itself (whereas they had just been cracking up at the Madagascar ad). But either way, it's not exactly a scientific argument. And people overpredicted both The Incredibles and the opening weekend for The Polar Express, and Shark Tale some over and some underpredicted. And c'mon guys, this is 35 million I'm saying, not that it will bomb terribly. I think it has some appeal, but March seems by and large like a weaker time to release a kids movie (Home on the Range bombed, and I know there's Ice Age, but that had far better marketing and cute furry animals to get kids in). I still think Madagascar will heavily outgross Star Wars Episode III and might even beat out War of the Worlds, some kids movies just have less appeal then others, and frankly, talking machines don't seem like they'd make little kids want to go.
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Alex Y.
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1. Robots - $23
2. The Pacifier - $18.8
3. Be Cool - $12.8
4. Hitch - $7.9
5. Hostage - $7.7
6. Million Dollar Baby - $6.0
7. Diary of a Mad Black Woman - $6.0
8. The Passion Recut - $4.0
9. Constantine - $3.3
10. Cursed - $1.7
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Kris K
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alex young wrote: 1. Robots - $23 2. The Pacifier - $18.8 3. Be Cool - $12.8 4. Hitch - $7.9 5. Hostage - $7.7 6. Million Dollar Baby - $6.0 7. Diary of a Mad Black Woman - $6.0 8. The Passion Recut - $4.0 9. Constantine - $3.3 10. Cursed - $1.7
A $6,000 pta for robots?
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JURiNG
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I personally don't think Robots will open above 40+
but well.. if Shark Tale can make that, I don't see why Robots won't.. (I personally think Robots looks far better than Crap Tale.. Oop Shark Tale)
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Animosity Reigns
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alex young wrote: 1. Robots - $23
yikes i think not, sorry but it will make that prob before 6pm on Sat... CGI kids movies are basically a lock for 35+ now a days, and Polar express was odd due to the fact it opened after Incredibles and Was a Xmas movies 2 months before Xmas
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Spidey
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Robots will make at least $30m, but $40m I am not sure about.
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MovieDude
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Guys, I just think that since so many CGI kids movies are coming into the market they're not all going to be a guaranteed 150+ million sucess, and that if Robots doesn't break the trend, Valiant will.
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El Maskado
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MovieDude wrote: Yeah, but I don't think any of Robots stars (Williams aside) have more draw then Ice Age's actors. I don't know where you're getting the "it's been getting better reactions" either, kids ate up the Shark Tale trailers but it was completely silent when the Robots trailer came on with Shark Tale itself (whereas they had just been cracking up at the Madagascar ad). But either way, it's not exactly a scientific argument. And people overpredicted both The Incredibles and the opening weekend for The Polar Express, and Shark Tale some over and some underpredicted. And c'mon guys, this is 35 million I'm saying, not that it will bomb terribly. I think it has some appeal, but March seems by and large like a weaker time to release a kids movie (Home on the Range bombed, and I know there's Ice Age, but that had far better marketing and cute furry animals to get kids in). I still think Madagascar will heavily outgross Star Wars Episode III and might even beat out War of the Worlds, some kids movies just have less appeal then others, and frankly, talking machines don't seem like they'd make little kids want to go.
Robots got better reactions from kids because the Shark Tale trailers didnt generate any laughs, the Robots trailer where Robin Williams robot's ass falls out generated big laughs. Thats what I meant. I really didnt seem to recall that many people overpredicting Polar Express. Most of the huge predictions for that movie was based mainly on Tom Hanks drawing power and creation of Robert Zemekis but there were quite some doubt because alot of posters argued that realistic CGI human forms dont generate that much cash as in the cash of Final Fantasy. They said that before Polar Express even opened and quite a few people agreed. The other predictions for the openings for the Incredibles were almost right on but its total gross was something different. I think I was one of the few who argued that human CGI characters which the Incredibles used wont get anywhere near Finding Nemo's number. The Robot issue can almost be argued too but theres the cutesey factor that will draw little girls and kids in.
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Two more positive reviews showed up for " Robots "
"A smart, snappy energy to the dialogue that gives the film a zesty flavor rarely found in the genre."
- Mixed Reviews
"Wonderfully entertaining! Visually tantalizing! Musically upbeat! A modern animation with the spirit of The Wizard of Oz and Willy Wonka."
- Hollywood Report Card
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zingy
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Robots - $36 million
Hostage - $10 million
I find it hard to believe that a lot are predicted Robots to be the #1 opening ever for March.
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Joker's Thug #3
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Zingaling wrote: Robots - $36 million Hostage - $10 million
I find it hard to believe that a lot are predicted Robots to be the #1 opening ever for March. Whats the biggest March opener? Both Robots and Ring Two will pass it if its under 45mil
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zingy
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Killuminati510 wrote: Zingaling wrote: Robots - $36 million Hostage - $10 million
I find it hard to believe that a lot are predicted Robots to be the #1 opening ever for March. Whats the biggest March opener? Both Robots and Ring Two will pass it if its under 45mil
Ice Age, with $46 million. The Ring Two will beat it (infact, destroy it), but Robots will not.
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Zingaling wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Zingaling wrote: Robots - $36 million Hostage - $10 million
I find it hard to believe that a lot are predicted Robots to be the #1 opening ever for March. Whats the biggest March opener? Both Robots and Ring Two will pass it if its under 45mil Ice Age, with $46 million. The Ring Two will beat it (infact, destroy it), but Robots will not. It'll be close, Robots will do 40mil atleast.
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Robots will come close and possibly just barely pass it.
The Ring Two should pass it by $5-$10 million.
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BJ
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RogueCommander wrote: Robots will come close and possibly just barely pass it.
The Ring Two should pass it by $5-$10 million.
The Ring Two will destroy the record by over 40m :rock
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MovieDude
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El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: MovieDude wrote: Yeah, but I don't think any of Robots stars (Williams aside) have more draw then Ice Age's actors. I don't know where you're getting the "it's been getting better reactions" either, kids ate up the Shark Tale trailers but it was completely silent when the Robots trailer came on with Shark Tale itself (whereas they had just been cracking up at the Madagascar ad). But either way, it's not exactly a scientific argument. And people overpredicted both The Incredibles and the opening weekend for The Polar Express, and Shark Tale some over and some underpredicted. And c'mon guys, this is 35 million I'm saying, not that it will bomb terribly. I think it has some appeal, but March seems by and large like a weaker time to release a kids movie (Home on the Range bombed, and I know there's Ice Age, but that had far better marketing and cute furry animals to get kids in). I still think Madagascar will heavily outgross Star Wars Episode III and might even beat out War of the Worlds, some kids movies just have less appeal then others, and frankly, talking machines don't seem like they'd make little kids want to go.
Robots got better reactions from kids because the Shark Tale trailers didnt generate any laughs, the Robots trailer where Robin Williams robot's ass falls out generated big laughs. Thats what I meant. I really didnt seem to recall that many people overpredicting Polar Express. Most of the huge predictions for that movie was based mainly on Tom Hanks drawing power and creation of Robert Zemekis but there were quite some doubt because alot of posters argued that realistic CGI human forms dont generate that much cash as in the cash of Final Fantasy. They said that before Polar Express even opened and quite a few people agreed. The other predictions for the openings for the Incredibles were almost right on but its total gross was something different. I think I was one of the few who argued that human CGI characters which the Incredibles used wont get anywhere near Finding Nemo's number. The Robot issue can almost be argued too but theres the cutesey factor that will draw little girls and kids in.
See, I said the same thing about The Incredibles, with the humans not selling quite as well to little kids, and I think that the case is very similar here, only The Incredibles had a much wider age appeal and Disney and Pixar behind it rather then just Fox.
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Kris K
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Robots should do around $42M next weekend....A VERY solid gross.
Glad to see reviews are actually very positive so far aswell. Better than SHARK TALE anyway. March 18 is gonna be massive! THE RING TWO's opening, and ROBOTS second weekend.
Awesome! I'm excited for both of these movies!
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Dr. Lecter
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MovieDude wrote: El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: MovieDude wrote: Yeah, but I don't think any of Robots stars (Williams aside) have more draw then Ice Age's actors. I don't know where you're getting the "it's been getting better reactions" either, kids ate up the Shark Tale trailers but it was completely silent when the Robots trailer came on with Shark Tale itself (whereas they had just been cracking up at the Madagascar ad). But either way, it's not exactly a scientific argument. And people overpredicted both The Incredibles and the opening weekend for The Polar Express, and Shark Tale some over and some underpredicted. And c'mon guys, this is 35 million I'm saying, not that it will bomb terribly. I think it has some appeal, but March seems by and large like a weaker time to release a kids movie (Home on the Range bombed, and I know there's Ice Age, but that had far better marketing and cute furry animals to get kids in). I still think Madagascar will heavily outgross Star Wars Episode III and might even beat out War of the Worlds, some kids movies just have less appeal then others, and frankly, talking machines don't seem like they'd make little kids want to go.
Robots got better reactions from kids because the Shark Tale trailers didnt generate any laughs, the Robots trailer where Robin Williams robot's ass falls out generated big laughs. Thats what I meant. I really didnt seem to recall that many people overpredicting Polar Express. Most of the huge predictions for that movie was based mainly on Tom Hanks drawing power and creation of Robert Zemekis but there were quite some doubt because alot of posters argued that realistic CGI human forms dont generate that much cash as in the cash of Final Fantasy. They said that before Polar Express even opened and quite a few people agreed. The other predictions for the openings for the Incredibles were almost right on but its total gross was something different. I think I was one of the few who argued that human CGI characters which the Incredibles used wont get anywhere near Finding Nemo's number. The Robot issue can almost be argued too but theres the cutesey factor that will draw little girls and kids in. See, I said the same thing about The Incredibles, with the humans not selling quite as well to little kids, and I think that the case is very similar here, only The Incredibles had a much wider age appeal and Disney and Pixar behind it rather then just Fox.
But the difference is that we are not talking about Robots opening to $70+ million here, but "just" to $40+ million.
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Impact
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mine:
1. Robots 55.0
2. Pacifier 16.8
3. Be Cool 13.0
4. Million Dollar Baby 7.5
5. Hitch 7.4
6. Hostage 7.0
7. Black Woman 6.7
8. Passion Recut 5.0
9. Constantine 3.1
10. Aviator 1.8
11. Wynn Dyxie 1.7
12. Cursed 1.5
13. Sideways 1.5
14. Man of the House 1.4
15. Jacket 1.4
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Animosity Reigns
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robots - 45ish
pacifier - 18ish
hostage - 12ish
be crap - 10ish
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cjgray
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I'm new to the board so I hope no one minds if I butt right in?
Is anyone here familiar with Rolie Polie Ollie? I read that this is based on Rolie and he is pretty popular with little kids who watch the Disney channel. It's one of my favorite shows.  My grandkids are into robots so much that it's like an obsession. They do robot dancing, walking, talking and have several toy robots. They are young though, 3 and 2. Robots looks really cleverly written so adults should be fine with it. I don't see why it shouldn't make at least 48 OW.
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Impact
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CJ, my nephew (whose almost 2) watches rollie, and this is not based on this. (robots is fox)
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