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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Oh, BTW: Bourne 3 > Next Bond > MI3. :wink:
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:36 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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Mike wrote: Here, I made the numbers more pretty  : *****FRIDAY'S NUMBERS*****
1. HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY - 8.1 Million 2. XXX: STATE OF THE UNION - 4.4 Million 3. INTERPRETER - 4.2 Million (33.5 Million) 4. AMITYVILLE HORROR - 2.6 Million (49.5 Million) 5. A LOT LIKE LOVE - 1.7 Million (11.2 Million) 6. SAHARA - 1.6 Million (52.8 Million) 7. FEVER PITCH - 1.1 Million (33.9 Million) 8. KUNG FU HUSTLE - 1 Million (10.5 Million) 9. GUESS WHO - .7 (64.0 Million) 10. SIN CITY - .6 (71.8 Million)Damn, HITCHHIKER didn't underperform. That sucks. I'm surprised and disappointed. It looks so bad too! xXx 2 did pretty damn bad. But a lot of people hated the first one and this one didn't have Vin Diesel either. They needed a hot guy to be xXx because Ice Cube is ugly and at least girls (and gay guys  ) would be more likely to see this one if it had nice eye candy. They should have taken hottie Scott Speedman out of his supporting role and put him into the lead role. Yum! Cube is better in funny roles where he doesn't have to look attractive. Because with action movies people just want to see hot sweaty people, not ugly sweaty people. Nobody wants to see Ice Cube sweaty  . But maybe that's just me. AMITYVILLE had another great hold. It will be hurt some next weekend when HOUSE OF WAX comes out, but I don't think it will be extremely bad. There are going to be people that won't want to see WAX (Can you blame them? Paris Hilton - eew! I myself still want to see it but I don't blame those who don't) and AMITYVILLE has good word-of-mouth from audiences. It will obviously drop more than it has been dropping, but I doubt it will be HUGE. I don't think it will drop more than 50% at least. A LOT LIKE LOVE held surprisingly great! KUNG-FU HUSTLE held surprisingly bad. I thought with such excellent word-of-mouth it would only end up dropping like 30% this weekend.
It's interesting how well Amityville is doing for being in it's 3rd week, yet gets the goofy 23% ROTTEN at RT and the majority of critics buttslamming it.. If the movie were really as bad as some of them reviews made it out to be, then the legs on this wouldn't be good.. Looks like someone got it wrong on this movie and I think it was the critics and RT..
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:42 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Ebert and Roeper got into a pretty heated debate over XXXXXX. Ebert thought Roeper was being too harsh and cynical and suggested he changed jobs. Ebert gave it a thumbs down but enjoyed the action sequences and liked the idea of all the blacks being heroes. Roeper eventually went from zero stars to negative one stars. 
So let me see if I got this straight: Ebert and his partner Roeper both panned the movie and gave it thumbs down, but there disagreeing with one another's bad review of the film?? :laugh:
_________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmXF3CE04A This kills TDKR At the box office next summer.. Get used to this
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:46 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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andaroo wrote: But the storm is Episode III. We can all see it.
Is Episode III a black hole of movie excitement.
Are we underestimating how popular it will be and how much people are looking forward to it based on the other Star Wars movies.
Is it hurting all the other movies around it.
There are MANY who are simply underestimating SITH and going off the last 2 as an excuse to do so.. I've said before and I'll say it again: ROTS will be the REAL EPISODE I, What George Lucas should've released in the Summer of 1999 and didn't.. He could've just shown this and did away with the other 2 movies, no shit..
_________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmXF3CE04A This kills TDKR At the box office next summer.. Get used to this
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Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:51 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23371 Location: Melbourne Australia
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We shouldnt overlook what Interpreter did in its second weekend!! Great hold and a lock for $80m+.
Episode 3 is the one everyone has been waiting for - it will dominate.
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Sun May 01, 2005 12:27 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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MadGez wrote: We shouldnt overlook what Interpreter did in its second weekend!! Great hold and a lock for $80m+.
Episode 3 is the one everyone has been waiting for - it will dominate.
Yes.. Yes it will..I'd say at this point without the movie even being out for another 19 days, I'd say this is a lock to be the Year's Biggest Grosser.. I'll bet that right now..
_________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmXF3CE04A This kills TDKR At the box office next summer.. Get used to this
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Sun May 01, 2005 1:14 am |
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asalem182
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:44 am Posts: 2375 Location: Cairo, Egypt
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BKB_The_Man wrote: MadGez wrote: We shouldnt overlook what Interpreter did in its second weekend!! Great hold and a lock for $80m+.
Episode 3 is the one everyone has been waiting for - it will dominate. Yes.. Yes it will..I'd say at this point without the movie even being out for another 19 days, I'd say this is a lock to be the Year's Biggest Grosser.. I'll bet that right now..
I agree, but how far can ROTS go? i'm a little worried that the darker tone of the movie will hurt its gross. Here are some parts of the Kevin Smith review of the movie " Quite simply, f***ing awesome. It is so satisfyingly tragic, you'll think you're watching Othello or Hamlet."
He also said that many scenes that will disturb the children.
If it is as good as Kevin Smith suggests, I think it has the potential to do 370 m, but with the darker tone, I think 320 m is more likely.
Is it the trend to be dark this summer? Batman Begin, SW3, and Charlie And The Chocolate Factory?
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Sun May 01, 2005 5:46 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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ahmed salem wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: MadGez wrote: We shouldnt overlook what Interpreter did in its second weekend!! Great hold and a lock for $80m+.
Episode 3 is the one everyone has been waiting for - it will dominate. Yes.. Yes it will..I'd say at this point without the movie even being out for another 19 days, I'd say this is a lock to be the Year's Biggest Grosser.. I'll bet that right now..I agree, but how far can ROTS go? i'm a little worried that the darker tone of the movie will hurt its gross. Here are some parts of the Kevin Smith review of the movie " Quite simply, f***ing awesome. It is so satisfyingly tragic, you'll think you're watching Othello or Hamlet." He also said that many scenes that will disturb the children. If it is as good as Kevin Smith suggests, I think it has the potential to do 370 m, but with the darker tone, I think 320 m is more likely. Is it the trend to be dark this summer? Batman Begin, SW3, and Charlie And The Chocolate Factory?
Well Star Wars III is justified as being dark do to the story content and all, but yeah, I agree that many filmmakers are making there films dark nowadays to appease the fanbase and to look cool and hip.. Dark and Gothic appears to be where it's at when it comes to comicbook adaptations and that's why I feel SUPERMAN RETURNS is gonna BOMB like hell.. It's too squeaky clean for a character with basically no real problems like Peter Parker or Bruce Banner or Matt Murdoch..
_________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmXF3CE04A This kills TDKR At the box office next summer.. Get used to this
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Sun May 01, 2005 5:52 am |
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asalem182
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:44 am Posts: 2375 Location: Cairo, Egypt
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Well Star Wars III is justified as being dark do to the story content and all, but yeah, I agree that many filmmakers are making there films dark nowadays to appease the fanbase and to look cool and hip.. Dark and Gothic appears to be where it's at when it comes to comicbook adaptations and that's why I feel SUPERMAN RETURNS is gonna BOMB like hell.. It's too squeaky clean for a character with basically no real problems like Peter Parker or Bruce Banner or Matt Murdoch..
No, I don't think Superman Returns will bomb. I trust in Bryan Singer, i'm sure he's going to find the right mood for the movie. Look at what he did with the X-Men franchise.
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Sun May 01, 2005 6:28 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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ahmed salem wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Well Star Wars III is justified as being dark do to the story content and all, but yeah, I agree that many filmmakers are making there films dark nowadays to appease the fanbase and to look cool and hip.. Dark and Gothic appears to be where it's at when it comes to comicbook adaptations and that's why I feel SUPERMAN RETURNS is gonna BOMB like hell.. It's too squeaky clean for a character with basically no real problems like Peter Parker or Bruce Banner or Matt Murdoch..
No, I don't think Superman Returns will bomb. I trust in Bryan Singer, i'm sure he's going to find the right mood for the movie. Look at what he did with the X-Men franchise.
Yeah, but MARVEL characters are alot more deep and more realistic when it came to real life problems they portrayed than what DC has brought to the table and that's something the audience can relate to more.. SUPERMAN is a 1 dimensional character that basically has 1 Villian(Lex Luthor) and that's really about it plus he's boring.. This was fine in the 70's and whatnot, but today in the present, I don't think the audience this is marketed at which is teens are gonna buy into this.. It's already receiving Poor WOM just off the pics released alone, especially the costume which looks heavily dated and let's not forget the blunder in the plot of having SUPERMAN gone for 6 years away to Krypton which exploded in the 1st film and that alone is a major contradiction in the storyline both in the comic and Richard Donner's movie.. That is something that cannot be overlooked, even if Singer is trying his own spin on this..
_________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmXF3CE04A This kills TDKR At the box office next summer.. Get used to this
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Sun May 01, 2005 6:36 am |
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1981
The Producer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:06 am Posts: 484
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Dr. Lecter wrote: jb007 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: = You did not comment on my claim at all [-(
Do you agree that M:I-3 will outdo Casino Royale?
And sorry to tell it to you, Mav, but while box-office-wise the Bond franchise is on a rise, its quality is anti-proportional to its box-office. DAD is nowhere close a great Bond movie, but what is to be expected from a director who moved to direct a xXx movie after Bond? :razz:
Admittedly, Brosnan is a good Bond, but the screenwriters of the new Bond movies are simply bad. Nuff' said. I disagree. The world is Not Enough, TND and Golden eye were quite good. DAD was great in the first half and then went downhill. Golden Eye was okay, The World is not Enough was surprisingly good. Can't say the same for TND and DAD. DAD had a great start with Bond being captured and all, from then on it went downhill, extremely. I mean a surfing CGI Bond? C'mon!!
As a James Bond fan, I have to agree with Arthur. TND had its moments(Hamburg parking station), but was a bit dull. DAD had a great start, but the second half was a big letdown. The sci-fi element doesn't work for Bond all the time. Just like Moonraker, great first hour, a disappointing and less convincing second half.
I knew that xXx² would not open good. xXx was an all-round star-vehicle this wasn't. And Cube is no Diesel, even he carried the hits 'Barbershop', 'Are We There Yet' and others...
Is this the first time that a sequel will have a total gross which is less than the original film's opening weekend?
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Sun May 01, 2005 6:56 am |
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asalem182
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:44 am Posts: 2375 Location: Cairo, Egypt
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BKB_The_Man wrote: ahmed salem wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Well Star Wars III is justified as being dark do to the story content and all, but yeah, I agree that many filmmakers are making there films dark nowadays to appease the fanbase and to look cool and hip.. Dark and Gothic appears to be where it's at when it comes to comicbook adaptations and that's why I feel SUPERMAN RETURNS is gonna BOMB like hell.. It's too squeaky clean for a character with basically no real problems like Peter Parker or Bruce Banner or Matt Murdoch..
No, I don't think Superman Returns will bomb. I trust in Bryan Singer, i'm sure he's going to find the right mood for the movie. Look at what he did with the X-Men franchise. Yeah, but MARVEL characters are alot more deep and more realistic when it came to real life problems they portrayed than what DC has brought to the table and that's something the audience can relate to more.. SUPERMAN is a 1 dimensional character that basically has 1 Villian(Lex Luthor) and that's really about it plus he's boring.. This was fine in the 70's and whatnot, but today in the present, I don't think the audience this is marketed at which is teens are gonna buy into this.. It's already receiving Poor WOM just off the pics released alone, especially the costume which looks heavily dated and let's not forget the blunder in the plot of having SUPERMAN gone for 6 years away to Krypton which exploded in the 1st film and that alone is a major contradiction in the storyline both in the comic and Richard Donner's movie.. That is something that cannot be overlooked, even if Singer is trying his own spin on this..
Maybe you're right, we'll have to wait and see. But if it isn't good and bombs, i'll be EXTREMELY disappointed, this is my most anticipated movie of 2006.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23371 Location: Melbourne Australia
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BKB_The_Man wrote: MadGez wrote: We shouldnt overlook what Interpreter did in its second weekend!! Great hold and a lock for $80m+.
Episode 3 is the one everyone has been waiting for - it will dominate. Yes.. Yes it will..I'd say at this point without the movie even being out for another 19 days, I'd say this is a lock to be the Year's Biggest Grosser.. I'll bet that right now..
I agree - it will be the No.1 film of the year. The anticpation is tremendous and I think the film will be better than the last two - so i dont think the darker storyline will hurt it all that much. I think when thats all taken into account - it may have legs similar to AOTC but with a far better first 10 days which will make all the difference in B.O.
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Nazgul9
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:32 pm Posts: 11289 Location: Germany
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Well Star Wars III is justified as being dark do to the story content and all, but yeah, I agree that many filmmakers are making there films dark nowadays to appease the fanbase and to look cool and hip.. Dark and Gothic appears to be where it's at when it comes to comicbook adaptations and that's why I feel SUPERMAN RETURNS is gonna BOMB like hell.. It's too squeaky clean for a character with basically no real problems like Peter Parker or Bruce Banner or Matt Murdoch..
First of all, Spiderman is NOT dark, it's basically a teeny bop love story with some comedy and action thrown in. Hulk IS dark, moody and look at how much that grossed... So no, it's not as clear cut as you might think: dark - success, lighthearted - bomb, not at all, it's more the other way round. Secondly, Superman as Clark Kent has his own share of problems not unlike those of Peter Parker and other superheroes (relationships with women, dual identity crisis etc.) so enough people can relate to. As for Krypton, i'm sure Singer will have an explanation for this, first wait for the movie and see how it's gonna be handled before calling it a blunder.
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Sun May 01, 2005 8:54 am |
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BKB_The_Man wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Ebert and Roeper got into a pretty heated debate over XXXXXX. Ebert thought Roeper was being too harsh and cynical and suggested he changed jobs. Ebert gave it a thumbs down but enjoyed the action sequences and liked the idea of all the blacks being heroes. Roeper eventually went from zero stars to negative one stars.  So let me see if I got this straight: Ebert and his partner Roeper both panned the movie and gave it thumbs down, but there disagreeing with one another's bad review of the film?? :laugh:
Pretty much. It was one of the funniest exchanges ever on the show.
When is bad really bad? 
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Plot
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 2987 Location: Free Country, USA
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Daniel Raedts wrote: Is this the first time that a sequel will have a total gross which is less than the original film's opening weekend?
No. Many sequels have done that, such as Son of the Mask ($17 million gross compared to The Mask's $23 million opening), Lawnmower man 2, and the 3rd pokemon movie.
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