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Libs
Sbil
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 Re: Gary Oldman is the man
He's not the man, he sounds like a bitter old thing who needs to relax and get laid.
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Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:54 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Magnus wrote: Yes, Gary fucking Oldman isn't having enough sex in his life. Child please.
Everything he said is spot on. PC culture is complete bullshit and people choose who they feel can get away with saying things over others. I don't necessarily disagree with his overall point but he sounds like a fucking asshole in that interview.
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
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Libs wrote: Magnus wrote: Yes, Gary fucking Oldman isn't having enough sex in his life. Child please.
Everything he said is spot on. PC culture is complete bullshit and people choose who they feel can get away with saying things over others. I don't necessarily disagree with his overall point but he sounds like a fucking asshole in that interview. Agreed
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:20 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68335
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Oldman's only mistake is that he limits it to just Hollywood. But of course he's correct. After all, he is English.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:26 am |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
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“He’s like an outcast, a leper, you know?” - Gary Oldman
"They'll cast you out. Like a leper!" -The Joker
Win.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:40 am |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
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Actually Gary's whole argument could be taken from The Joker's monologue in that scene.
Unfortunately he tries to meld two separate arguments instead of focusing on the better of the two, which is persecution and the lack of forgiveness when it's deserved in Hollywood. It isn't always deserved. Case in point: Chris Brown. But sometimes forgiveness is deserved, IMO. Example: Michael Richards. I honestly believe he thought on that night, he was just being an edgy comedian and that people would see him differently. People saw him differently and his career was never the same. But he showed remorse for what he said. Too late; the people spoke.
His other argument is useless. Bill Maher and Jon Stewart are comedians. Well-dressed comedians on faux-news programs, but comedians all the same. Alec Baldwin and Mel Gibson are not. Comedians have more of a free pass. Not always, obviously, but they can take more liberties. But their words rarely have hate behind them, unlike Baldwin and Gibson, who aren't one-time offenders either. They have a history. Sometimes repeated offenses deserve repeated criticism.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:48 am |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Magnus wrote: http://variety.com/2014/film/news/gary-oldman-blasts-liberal-hollywood-defends-mel-gibson-and-alec-baldwin-1201243936/
PREACH GARY what an old faggot piece of shit I hope he is at least not married to a communist jewish woman.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:15 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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He sounds like a raging republican who is watching too much FOX news while advertising for fucking HTC.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:51 am |
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Gary Oldman is the man and everyone that disagrees with what he says sounds like a fucking asshole.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:52 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
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You're a fucking asshole.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:04 pm |
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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Chippy wrote: You're a fucking asshole. 
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:11 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
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jesus christ. grow a pair.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:25 pm |
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Chippy
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No, you need to grow a pair.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:42 pm |
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Chippy
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You guys are whining like little bitches about comedians getting to make hateful jokes. That's the way it works. Become a comedian if you hate it. Stop whining.
Did you complain about RDJ wearing blackface because he didn't get in trouble yet your bros all got in trouble because they're racist mother fuckers?
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:51 pm |
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Chippy
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I disagree.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:03 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Magnus wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: Comedians have more of a free pass. Not always, obviously, but they can take more liberties. But their words rarely have hate behind them The idea that because its funny (or the person who says it is funny) makes it complete devoid of hate is complete bullshit. Comedians are humans just like everyone else. They are not above from having hate. In fact, most comedians have a lot of hate in them. Hate as in that towards race, gender, sexuality, etc. Most comedians have hate-based acts.
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Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:58 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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The problem with Baldwin and Gibson have been other things than saying than just anti-semantic remarks. Gibson had his tired where he called his ex some horrible things and threatened to kill her. Baldwin has done pretty much the same thing to several of his exs. Those are the reasons they have become outcasts not so much their words. And also Oldman is just talking stupid saying the Jews own Hollywood that is just neo-nazi conspiracy garbage.
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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Good man.
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Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:28 am |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Now he has released a terribly silly apology. Quote: Dear Gentlemen of the ADL:
I am deeply remorseful that comments I recently made in the Playboy Interview were offensive to many Jewish people. Upon reading my comments in print—I see how insensitive they may be, and how they may indeed contribute to the furtherance of a false stereotype. Anything that contributes to this stereotype is unacceptable, including my own words on the matter. If, during the interview, I had been asked to elaborate on this point I would have pointed out that I had just finished reading Neal Gabler’s superb book about the Jews and Hollywood, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews invented Hollywood. The fact is that our business, and my own career specifically, owes an enormous debt to that contribution.
I hope you will know that this apology is heartfelt, genuine, and that I have an enormous personal affinity for the Jewish people in general, and those specifically in my life. The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God’s voice, and surely are the chosen people.
I would like to sign off with “Shalom Aleichem”—but under the circumstances, perhaps today I lose the right to use that phrase, so I will wish you all peace–Gary Oldman. http://www.deadline.com/2014/06/gary-ol ... t-context/
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Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:47 pm |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Libs wrote: Now he has released a terribly silly apology. Quote: Dear Gentlemen of the ADL:
I am deeply remorseful that comments I recently made in the Playboy Interview were offensive to many Jewish people. Upon reading my comments in print—I see how insensitive they may be, and how they may indeed contribute to the furtherance of a false stereotype. Anything that contributes to this stereotype is unacceptable, including my own words on the matter. If, during the interview, I had been asked to elaborate on this point I would have pointed out that I had just finished reading Neal Gabler’s superb book about the Jews and Hollywood, An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews invented Hollywood. The fact is that our business, and my own career specifically, owes an enormous debt to that contribution.
I hope you will know that this apology is heartfelt, genuine, and that I have an enormous personal affinity for the Jewish people in general, and those specifically in my life. The Jewish People, persecuted thorough the ages, are the first to hear God’s voice, and surely are the chosen people.
I would like to sign off with “Shalom Aleichem”—but under the circumstances, perhaps today I lose the right to use that phrase, so I will wish you all peace–Gary Oldman. http://www.deadline.com/2014/06/gary-ol ... t-context/wow. how cheap and lame is that?
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Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:39 pm |
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Chippy
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He's your idol.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:16 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68335
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Fucking pussy. Typical English!
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:44 am |
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Excel
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He is right. People have become way too sensitive to things which are merely just "words".
If you're Black and are truly hurt and offended when a STRANGER uses the word nigger...you have a problem along with him. Same goes for Jews, et al. Yes - the words just shouldn't be said out of respect, but everybody makes a choice to freak the fuck out.
Folks who know Mel Gibson will tell you he is a great guy who has a problem with alcohol and a temper. Foils who know Alec Baldwin will tell you similar.
I dont know what it says about a society when they ignore the vast majority of a mans reputation to focus on an individuals rare low moments, but it isn't something good. Oldman is correct in that many of the folks judging are hypocrites as I am sure if one judged them at their lowest, they could sound equally bad.
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Chippy
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:17 pm |
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Algren
now we know
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Excel wrote: If you're Black and are truly hurt and offended when a STRANGER uses the word nigger...you have a problem along with him. What? Why does the user of the word "nigger" have a problem? It's just a word and it is not affecting the black person that heard it. The black person has the sole problem in that he's allowed a word to act as a rage switch. Hearing that word sends them into a rage where if they ended up killing someone, society would probably side with the black man because the term "nigger" is so taboo now. It's fucking pathetic.
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