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dolcevita
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 Uh-oh. Look who's got Nuclear facilities now. Egypt. Yes. What happened to North Korea? I don't see them in the papers at all lately. Yeah, probably because we know we can't upset Kim Jong Il too much of he'll push the red button. Much easier to pick on people we're planning on attacking two years down the line (once we recover from our recent failure to find Weapons of Mass Destruction of course).
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/artic ... lear_work/
Quote: VIENNA -- The UN atomic watchdog agency has found evidence of secret nuclear experiments in Egypt that could be used in weapons programs, diplomats said yesterday.
The diplomats said that most of the work was carried out in the 1980s and 1990s but said the International Atomic Energy Agency also was looking at evidence suggesting some work was performed as recently as a year ago.
Egypt's government rejected claims it is or has been pursuing a weapons program, saying its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes.
''A few months ago we denied these kinds of claims and we do so again," Egyptian government spokesman Magdy Rady said. ''Nothing about our nuclear program is secret and there is nothing that is not known to the IAEA."
But one of the diplomats said the Egyptians ''tried to produce various components of uranium" without declaring it to the IAEA, as they were bound to under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. The products included several pounds of uranium metal and uranium tetrafluoride -- a precursor to uranium hexafluoride gas, the diplomat said on condition of anonymity.
Uranium metal can be processed into plutonium, while uranium hexafluoride can be enriched into weapons-grade uranium -- both for use in nuclear warheads.
The diplomat said the Vienna-based IAEA had not yet drawn a conclusion about the scope and purpose of the experiments. But the work appeared to have been sporadic, involved small amounts of material, and lacked a particular focus, the diplomat said.
That, he said, indicated that the work was not directly geared toward creating a full-scale program to make nuclear weapons.
The diplomat said that Egypt's program was not ''cohesive."
''It's not like Iran, where there was a clear plan to produce" uranium hexafluoride, the gas that turns into enriched uranium when spun in centrifuges, he said.
He also warned against comparisons to South Korea, which conducted larger-scale plutonium and uranium experiments in 1982 and 2000 without reporting them to the agency.
Iran, which the United States accuses of having nuclear weapons ambitions, developed a full-fledged uranium enrichment program over nearly two decades of clandestine activity revealed only in mid 2002. Iran says it plans to enrich only to levels used to generate nuclear fuel and not to weapons-grade uranium.
In Vienna, IAEA spokesman Mark Gwozdecky said the agency would not comment on the revelations about Egypt.
Cairo has denied in the past it is trying to develop a nuclear weapons program...
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Heh.
I wonder where Egypt gets the money for such experiments. Could it be the couple of billion it gets from the U.S. every year?
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| Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:53 pm |
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dolcevita
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Countries give all other countries money. You could say the same thing about Iraq, Iran, the Taliban, Bin Laden...anyone.
Money and implementation are a big problem. If you give a country a check, than you really are going to have some trouble controlling it (as it should be). If you want to provide serviced and infrastructure, that's something else. I think it is an interesting route to take. Some country says they want to build powerlines, go over with trainers and teach them how to set up an electric company, and provide technology to help set up power-lines and regulate them, etc. If you give money, they can kind of do whatever they want with it. And countries have to stop being so shocked when their boting of the hand that feeds.
But in this case, I doubt they have a programme anyways. I think we're just creating an emergeny route incase this Palestine/Israel thing continues to implode. Today Abbas and other candidates were very aggressive towards Israel's shelling yesterday (killed 7 people). So doesn't look like a new face is going to make either side more pragmatic or diplomatic at this point. Time to bring out the WMD playing card.
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| Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:31 pm |
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Well, Egypt and Israel are special cases, as they both receive matching funds from the U.S., and they really shouldn't be.
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| Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:38 pm |
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Spidey
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Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids?
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Bodrul
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Spider-Man wrote: Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids? yep, thats the last i heard  _________________
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Spidey
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hans wrote: Spider-Man wrote: Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids? yep, thats the last i heard Then what did they do with the dead bodies? Did the bodies actually go their or did the people of ancient times build the pyramids for nuclear facilities?
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Bodrul
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Spider-Man wrote: hans wrote: Spider-Man wrote: Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids? yep, thats the last i heard Then what did they do with the dead bodies? Did the bodies actually go their or did the people of ancient times build the pyramids for nuclear facilities? uh. . . . yeah, sure  _________________
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lovemerox
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Spiderman2005 wrote: hans wrote: Spider-Man wrote: Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids? yep, thats the last i heard Then what did they do with the dead bodies? Did the bodies actually go their or did the people of ancient times build the pyramids for nuclear facilities? :? ^^
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| Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:42 pm |
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Bodrul
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lovemerox wrote: Spiderman2005 wrote: hans wrote: Spider-Man wrote: Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids? yep, thats the last i heard Then what did they do with the dead bodies? Did the bodies actually go their or did the people of ancient times build the pyramids for nuclear facilities? :? ^^ Well does this worry anybody? I dont think he's worked out its a joke _________________
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Pardon?^^
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Bodrul
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lovemerox wrote: Pardon?^^ um he said : Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids?
i jokingly said yes :wink: _________________
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hans wrote: lovemerox wrote: Pardon?^^ um he said : Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids?i jokingly said yes :wink: Oh I know that...I was confused about his statement after that _________________
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Bodrul
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lovemerox wrote: hans wrote: lovemerox wrote: Pardon?^^ um he said : Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids?i jokingly said yes :wink: Oh I know that...I was confused about his statement after that the guys nuts i guess. _________________
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Dr. Lecter
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hans wrote: Spider-Man wrote: Did they hide the facilities in the pyramids? yep, thats the last i heard 
Good one
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