I am still wondering what Eagle's background is. Legal or Something else, as he is a good detailed writer.

What the hell are you talking about?

Just some friendly advice that I was told by a professional writer, Chippy. Listen or Do Not Listen.(Wondering if contractions are used in papers and news reports?)

You're really failing at being a troll.

You can't troll a troll, bro.

Ok, no future responses back to you, as I thought you were a respected forum member based on your post total, but I guess you are just a little boy who can't get off his computer, and does nothing but post.

You would be wrong on both accounts!

Also, your responses haven't made any sense. You're making general statements and not referrencing anything you're talking about.

To Chippy with love. Once again, I mean no offense to you Barrabas, I find you an upstanding individual who I normally agree with, but obviously not in this regard.

My statement remains true, sir.

I agree Bro but I am not sure why you are proud of this?

Why not?

I guess Obama didn't know the facts of the case, either

No one's going to disagree that Zimmerman was racist and without his prejudices, Martin would alive today. But that does not mean he acted illegally. I think mdana's made this point the best throughout this thread. There are a lot of people who are not seperating morality from the law. Morality is passionate and ambigious. The law is cold and concrete. If anything, the removal of the stand your ground law is the best possible outcome from this trial.

sure and you know better about the situation than him. Troll on, Chippy. Troll on.

I DISAGREE! As everyone ignores a fact that Zimmerman in the past or this call never made color an issue in his calls, either who he reported in the past or in this call. All he said was that he saw a person that looked like he was up to no good, in his recent crime ridden neighborhood. Seems like a responsible guy who was trying to watch for crime in the neighborhood. It is just too bad that Martin freaked out. But then was Martin doing something wrong, as he was in better shape had a lead but didn't go into the house. And stayed outside for minutes, even though he supposedly was scared and being chased. And probably attacked Zimmerman. Sorry but Zimmerman had a reason to follow Martin, as Martin gave him a reason to, by running.

This is complete and utter bullshit. And why should oppressed people be kind and nice to those who VIOLENTLY oppress them without blinking an eye? People seem to forget that a CHILD was murdered. Somebody lost their baby forever, two parents will never see their child again. That's violence, that's oppression, and it's real and it MURDERS. Hate on the oppressed side is 100% justified, you can't be kind and nice and considerate towards people who are literally killing you. And every single white person is complicit in the system that murdered Trayvon Martin and let his killer walk free because they benefit from it.

Also re: your post about the differences between black and white being about economic status, that is also complete and utter bullshit. First economic status is mostly shaped by race and the historical implication of race and second, rich black men can still be victims of racism. Let's not forget Trayvon was walking in a private gated community, he was not a hoodlum from the ghetto. What about the Ivy League professor who was detained by police outside his own home because they thought he was trying to break in because he forgot his keys? What about Barack Obama and the fact that his place of birth was so scrutinized? Did you really think those cases had nothing to do with race?

You're racist scum, I really really really hope you are never in a position of power in your life. And I don't care if I'm repeating myself at this point, I'm going to call you out.

Just reporting the Facts. As watching the News, it is too many black people running amuck and out of control. And even so many black people are calling out for non violent protests. So open your eyes. And see the truth.

Cry me a river. As you are just too deluded and angry to have a civil discussion. As you are fueling the flames with your bs. And lol, every white is complicit? Then every black is complicit in the riots that are spreading fear and hate. And Martin again was an accident that was contributed by mistakes by both sides. Buy FYI. Zimmerman is also being penalized unfairly. . Especially since he has never made race a question in the past. He was just looking out for all the people. The blacks whites and people in the middle.

17 pages of hilarity.

Fact is better than fiction sometimes?

In terms of comedy; always.

Hey I was outside tonight coming out of the movies. And I got eyed by a group of black guys. And I was scared. But should I have pulled a Trayvon and ran or just jump them assuming that they were going to mug me? As what else would a group of blacks do, when eyeing a white guy who might have money? Boy do I wish a Zimmerman was around to protect me.

All white guys should carry guns, of course. And when they see a brotha', they should bust a cap in his ass. Then just say you were defending yourself.

Problem solved.

Stand Your Ground did not play any part in the case as Zimmerman team successful argued that Martin attacked and gave no option to retreat. Meaning likely Zimmerman would have not gotten murder in most of the US.

Of course you would say Zimmerman had the option to retreat by not chasing him but that's not how the law works relating to self defense and murder.

Also Don't assume people who think Zimmerman is not guilty of murder are racist.

The reason why this case is so divided is because you have the group who disagree morally on what he did but most agree it was not right.

The real division is on murder charge. I think most people agree from a legal point of view there is no case beyond a reasonable doubt for murder.

Barbarras is the typical rhetoric that advocates the Al Sharpton nonsense "Just don't try in life be the victim and blame the white man for all you problems. "

I agree with these points mostly, except the bolded one. Not Right? Well I don't have a problem that he decided to follow him, based on cause, the situation, and the past robberies. Especially since, I bet he would have followed a white 17 year old teenager! The big question which is unknown is what happened in the final confrontation. Who approached who near Martins house? As at that point both could have walked away. Also like all this talk about blacks being uncomfortable being watched and followed by whites and police, security. Well I am uncomfortable, when I am eyed and watched by a group of black youths. Should I assume the worst right off the bat?