I still think that it is not a preferred option because of all accounts lost. I mean, if I remember correctly, you, Algren, were one of those who has been absent for several years and then came back. Now I do not assume that this will happen frequently, but it does happen and in that case they will not know where we are.

And each time a migration from A to B takes place, members are lost. It's like pouring water from one cup into another and into another...each time some drops stay back.

Yeah, let's hope Jack Sparrow doesn't know where to find us after he goes absent for a few weeks. Or better yet, The Dark Shape! Or better again, Thegun!

I'd love you to elaborate on this.

1st thing is the domain itself. I am assuming Karl owns worldofkj.com and now wants to transfer(let us leave out the terms for now). I am assuming its hosted at a server that is paid until some point. Cant we move to a service that will do external redirection like http://www.futurequest.net/Services/RP/. it requires only one time $25 setup fees. That plus professionally hosted forums(which we will redirect to) could be the best interim solution. That way we will not lose anyone coming back to KJ.

edit: even forums.net will let you use your own domain. So potentially you can host worldofkj there. Other option is Karl keeps the domain and keep it alive. But redirects the forum to new location( boxofficeexperts.com :-) ).

It looks like these are the different options so far:

A) Keep past data
1) Keep dedicated server (everything the same on backend), costs are most expensive
a) dedicated IT person such as bl1222 is part of ownership, will do the server maintenance as well.
b) if no IT person in ownership, then non-IT owners research costs to hire an IT person and fund-raise accordingly. This may either be extremely expensive, or it is probable that the outsider hired will not stay long-term if he's not someone already invested in the forums/pay is not good enough.
2) Switch to non-dedicated server, costs should be cheaper. Eagle or someone would need to elaborate how much IT expertise would still be required.
3) Find someone else with a dedicated server already, and pay rent for them to host worldofkj.com, eg. Groucho currently paying rent to Eagle to host Groucho's site on Eagle's server. No IT expertise needed.
4) Switch to professional forum-hosting cloud service such as forums.net, supposedly they allow data migration without users needing to reset password. https://forums.net/services/data_migration. IT expertise will be needed on just the past data migration, but IT expertise not needed afterwards.

B) Don't keep past data/new user registration needed (optional to keep domain worldofkj.com to redirect for a fee).
1) use existing forums from a different site such as Dr. Lecter's forums. For Dr. Lecter, sounds like no further IT expertise required.
2) start a new free forum such as zIFBoards

Well summarized. Options A1, A2 and A3 sounds best to me.

I dont know why. To keep data we need IT support. I am not sure anyone person can do what Karl was doing all these years. Hiring an dedicated IT support will be expensive unless we hire it in 3rd world countries. Also could be risky to rely on one person.

Option 4 is ideal as that is taken care automatically in cloud and there is option to keep the domain we want. So its possible to migrate worldofkj to forums.net(if Karl is ok to let the domain go).

We have doctors and teachers and lawyers but no one became a network specialist?

Also, I don't want our data to disappear do as long as or old stuff is kept I guess I'm for any solution. I would like to see though Excel ideas explored more because I really liked the enthusiasm that has been missing here. Oh and let's free Korrgan and BKB from the phantom zone.

Let's assume for a moment that excel's ideas are viable. Who will write those analyses and articles? Screw modesty, xiayun and I are probably the most experienced box-office analysts still left here (used to be many more, but they're gone/barely here) and both of us don't really have the time to write for the website. So....who is gonna write?

From my experience, no migration of large quantities of data ever goes seamless.

I volunteer as tribute. I know I'm a fairly fresh face, but I love writing about box office. I could have someone edit it if need be.

I know you won't take this post seriously, but I'm putting it out there.

As if you ever exercised it anyway.

+1

The problem with reigniting the main site is what would differentiate any new content from the mountain of content available elsewhere, from more established outlets. This site at one point had paid assigned writers (box office, op-ed, reviews, etc.) and a continuous stream of content, including some really cool exclusive content. And even then it was hard to distinguish anything we were doing from everyone else. And even with a paid staff, it was hard to keep up the consistency.

The idea that one or two people would produce enough interesting content for the main site to come alive with traffic is a nice notion but unfortunately isn't likely. If you're really interested in writing for a website, I'd say approach any one of the popular fanboy outlets and show them some writing samples.

We have the derby. That makes us unique.

Also, I wrote an article once for the site, but was turned down. So screw you guys!

It is possible to write articles for the main site at the moment, and nobody does it. Call me sceptical, but I don't believe there is a hidden pool of talented writers here just waiting for the platform to publish their work, because if there were, they'd currently be using the main site or heck, the forums!, to write quality pieces.

David is a quality writer. It takes a lot to write an article. My ONE that I wrote, broke down Transformers box office potential. And it took me a few days and tons of research. I'm proud of it, but it's not something I would like to do every week. Maybe monthly, lol.

I turned it down?

Just like in every aspect of my life, loyal always turns me down

I don't specifically remember turning down a Transformers article in 2007, so I'll blame Arsi.

It probably was him. Damn him!

Check mine out.

I can see you dedicated some time to it. Good post. There are spelling mistakes and the grammar isn't quite there, but it's a good attempt, and I enjoyed reading it. Oh, and you used "reinvigorate" twice in the opening paragraph.

I didn't read over it after I wrote it. I'll keep writing them.

I am sorry, but could this be any more amateurish? Zwackerm is not the first choice for writers, he didn't proof read it, and the article is fairly average.

SOMEBODY needs to take running the main page seriously - the main page is the key to growing the website and making it profitable. If Zwackerm wants to write, no problemo - he needs more experienced posted to sign off on both the articles and his predictions first.

I, for one, do NOT want to go to the main page and see that type of article again.

If folks don't want to take it seriously than don't, but stop fucking around if that is not the case. You don't just write a random article and throw it up. You need a process, both for writing and editing articles prior to postage, and a plan for what we are going to post, when we are going to post, etc etc.

This stupid, bush-league thought process is why the main site never grew in all it's previous attempts. If we want the site to grow and pay for itself, run it like an income generating entity, not some amateur hobby. Have some standards and expectations. Have an actual plan of attack.

I, for one, would love that task. I'll need technical help to get things posted, but I can promise you the main page itself would become damn impressive.

And if you want another piece of advice - don't make this a "king of consensus". Nothing will get done. Nothing. It is almost always the same - try and include everybody's opinion, get into endless debates - it will be a disaster and we'll all be coughing up more money or the site will fold.

I want the job. I'll use an original and legitimate approach of only really evaluating, analyzing, and predicting big 'tentpole' movies. Nobody gives a shit about the smaller ones and the "weekend to weekend" predicting is tried and beyond played out by plenty of other shitty sites. We will be MUCH better off if we are known as THE place to go for box office insight for films people care about.