yes, but then the society itself criticizes us from discriminating in the first place .... it leads to a state of confusion ... peopel who feel a certain way, yet not owning up for it .. like i said, the feeling is understandable in my view though and you're completely right ... i would feel the same....

I mean thats how people back home feel about homosexuals and i've got some hilarious (or disturbing the way you wanna look at) about perceptions of the black population.

To be fair, the study itself is guilty of mudding the water with its definitions.

For instance, they're defining FBI agents infiltrating mosques and other Muslim organization to gather intelligence as infringing on civil liberties.

That's bullshit. I'd be surprised if the FBI WASN'T doing that.

Exactly. Which is why I was one of the 4 who voted yes. But of course I'd be against anything harsh or really infringing on civil liberties. But a few minor measures need to be taken.

I'd rather they do some preventive stuff like that, than what they already do which was round people up in the hundreds and hold them with no court or lawyer or anyone who can meet them for months and in some cases years. That bothered me bad. In fact the treatment of prisoners in general, whether people being questioned in the US or held in Gitmo, was one of the main gut things for me about this last election.

And the survey said republicans and people who describe themselves as very religious were more likely to want curtailing. Translation: old folks are more scared. Is that a surprise?

Actually at first I voted yes just to be a smartass even though I was against it. But then I read the fine print like Krem did and started realizing the poll was probably created just to stir up crap. :wink:

And I dispute the idea that Canadian cities are more minority and immigrant than U.S. ones are. Do you imagine that places like Dallas and Houston are full of white cowboy types? They are like 75%+ minority and immigrant, and that's in the heart of Texas, Bush country. Other cities are more so.

I wouldn't be surprised if the FBi wasn;t doing that due to lack of personal, but yes undercover FBI agents gethering evidence in mosques is their job and not the same as rounging up Msulims to live in the hell hole that is Oklahoma.

Places like Dallas n all are dominated by a few minorities ... its minority may be a majority there yes but its not like they see a lot of everything ..

come here to montreal ... name a minority, we got it ... we got it in huuuuuuuuuge numbers!! the issue isnt what race someone belongs to here, its what language they'll respond in : )

60% of Toronto's population is born outside of Canada. If you consider that those have relatives born here, including kids , I'd say less than 20%, maybe 15% of this city's population is non-immigrant white. Whites are actually the minority


156 languages are spoken here as mothertongues as well. It is ridiculously diverse. And I love it for that!

Disney actually hosts just that kind of event for Christians. I know because I went to one. The attendees are not decided by the theme park. They are picked by the event sponsor, and the event sponsor can sell tickets to anyone they want or exclude anyone they want.

I consider that an invasion of privacy and an infringement of civil liberty. And I'm sure you would to if they targeted you for investigation for no other reason than your ethnicity. We are supposed to have Constitutional protections against just that sort of thing.

Of course, to be fair, they are also targetting potential terror organizations...like peace protesting college students and Quakers. So it's a good use of FBI time all around.

Small govt advocates, my ass.

Oh, please. There is nothing wrong with trying to gather intelligence by infiltrating groups that have potential ties to terrorism. Whose civil liberties are infringed?

...which is why you shouldn't necessarily go with what the majority thinks in the country (though it is not a majority as of now)...

It's sad to see so much ignorance.

But UFOs, by definition, do exist

And so does life outside this planet :wink:

This saddens me. They should check everyone...because we all know white caucasians are just as fucked up as anyone.
Im really interested in who chose "yes" and would like to hear their opinions on the matter.

If I were a terrorist, I'd hire disillusioned White Americans and Europeans to carry out the act, scare the living daylight out of the US that way.

Then it wont be, "they vs. us", but " they among us vs. us"


Freaky...


But I don't wish that on anyone. That'd be horrible.