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makeshift
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 Dr. Lecter wrote: makeshift wrote: Mr. X wrote: A question to vegans on this site (seems to be quite a few): Do you eat fish? Well, there are several different types of vegetarains... Type 1) Semi vegetarians - These 'vegetarians' eat all types of foods in their diet - including meat. However these individuals limit the amount of animal products they consume. Type 2) Lacto vegetarian - Individuals in this group are a step up from the semi vegetarians. They avoid all animal products except for dairy products in their diet. Type 3) Lacto-ovo vegetarians - This type of vegetarian diet excludes all meat except for dairy and eggs. Not too different from the previous type. Type 4) Vegans - These are the 'hard-core" vegetarians who avoid all animal products in their diet, such as meats, dairy products, and eggs. The vegan diet rely on lentils, beans, soy products etc.. So, a vegan wouldn't eat fish. What's up with vegetarians eating fish, though? Is fish considered a not so "worthy" animal?  Honestly, I wouldn't call a person that eats fish a vegetarian, and i'm pretty sure they wouldn't call themselves a vegetarian, either.
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rusty
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makeshift wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: makeshift wrote: Mr. X wrote: A question to vegans on this site (seems to be quite a few): Do you eat fish? Well, there are several different types of vegetarains... Type 1) Semi vegetarians - These 'vegetarians' eat all types of foods in their diet - including meat. However these individuals limit the amount of animal products they consume. Type 2) Lacto vegetarian - Individuals in this group are a step up from the semi vegetarians. They avoid all animal products except for dairy products in their diet. Type 3) Lacto-ovo vegetarians - This type of vegetarian diet excludes all meat except for dairy and eggs. Not too different from the previous type. Type 4) Vegans - These are the 'hard-core" vegetarians who avoid all animal products in their diet, such as meats, dairy products, and eggs. The vegan diet rely on lentils, beans, soy products etc.. So, a vegan wouldn't eat fish. What's up with vegetarians eating fish, though? Is fish considered a not so "worthy" animal? Honestly, I wouldn't call a person that eats fish a vegetarian, and i'm pretty sure they wouldn't call themselves a vegetarian, either. Mikey does doesn't he?
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makeshift
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rusty wrote:
Mikey does doesn't he?
Mikey?
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rusty
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makeshift wrote: rusty wrote:
Mikey does doesn't he?
Mikey? Mike Ventrella. I just like using the name mikey.
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makeshift
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rusty wrote: makeshift wrote: rusty wrote:
Mikey does doesn't he?
Mikey? Mike Ventrella. I just like using the name mikey. Well, he does eat fish, but he calls himself a "semi-vegetarian", which is exactly what he is.
If he went around saying "I'm a vegetarian", it would be different. He is up front about it from the start, though.
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andaroo1
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makeshift wrote: Why's that? I have the ability to differentiate fantasy from reality, and it's not as if horror films are filled with actual animal killings or anything. I must admit, i'm confused by this, andaroo. Just from the strictly moral standpoint.
That the films are about carnage and death and in a way, you are slightly supporting that industry, even though it is entertainment. To me it's like saying, "I'm really, really into Christianity, but I'm addicted to porn."
It's one of those weird little things to me.
Pay no mind, I'm not trying to make a deeper point.
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makeshift
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andaroo wrote: makeshift wrote: Why's that? I have the ability to differentiate fantasy from reality, and it's not as if horror films are filled with actual animal killings or anything. I must admit, i'm confused by this, andaroo. Just from the strictly moral standpoint. That the films are about carnage and death and in a way, you are slightly supporting that industry, even though it is entertainment. To me it's like saying, "I'm really, really into Christianity, but I'm addicted to porn." It's one of those weird little things to me. Pay no mind, I'm not trying to make a deeper point. It's like conservative republicans and Christians... somehow those two just don't line up for me. I'm supporting the industry of carnage and death? Really? How are they doing on the open market? They trade under C&D, right? :razz:
I do see your point, but make believe violence doesn't upset me. If the violence in horror films was real, i'd clearly not be a fan. Infact, I denounce one of the most famous horror films of all time, Cannilbal Holocaust, because it does feature actual animal torture. I think it's a disgusting film, and i've been roundly ridiculed for my stance by fellow horror fans.
I think your porn/Christianity comparison is way off, too. A Christian watching porn is hypocritcial because they denounce those that do. I don't denounce people that eat meat. I could really care less. I've never been a fan of the "in your face" vegetarians that disown you for getting a soda at McDonalds.
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Groucho
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rusty wrote:
Mikey does doesn't he?
Yeah, that's why I said I was a semi-vegetarian. I make no bones about it.
Except fish bones. _________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com
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rusty
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Mike Ventrella wrote: rusty wrote:
Mikey does doesn't he?
Yeah, that's why I said I was a semi-vegetarian. I make no bones about it. Except fish bones. Do you mind me calling you mikey? :wink: I always wanted to call somebody mikey but never knew anyone that deserved that name 
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Terminator1997
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i could go for a nice, juice hamburger right about now 
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makeshift
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Terminator1997 wrote: i could go for a nice, juice hamburger right about now What's a juice hamburger? :razz:
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Terminator1997
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makeshift wrote: Terminator1997 wrote: i could go for a nice, juice hamburger right about now What's a juice hamburger? :razz: lol oops, i meant juicy hamburger. ....mmmm....hamburger
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lovemerox
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Taco bell sounds amazing
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Terminator1997
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lovemerox wrote: Taco bell sounds amazing hell yeah
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Erendis
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I don't believe in "semi-vegetarianism." If you eat ANY meat, even if it's fish once a month, you're not vegetarian. [-(
I keep a vegetarian kitchen. I don't prepare any meat at home, except for the occasional Lean Cuisine.
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andaroo1
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Erendis wrote: I don't believe in "semi-vegetarianism." If you eat ANY meat, even if it's fish once a month, you're not vegetarian. [-(
I keep a vegetarian kitchen. I don't prepare any meat at home, except for the occasional Lean Cuisine. If you prepare ANY meat, then your kitchen is not a vegetarian kitchen. 
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