Denver needs to get the tight ends involved

Congrats to Broncos and Manning. Didn't some pats fan say that Panthers would crush the broncos

No?

Awful game, but it played out the right way. Denver's defense might be the best since...?

And the game annoyed me as a Pats fan. Not because Peyton won (congrats!), but because the Denver game was so winnable, the Panthers turned out to be so beatable (though admittedly they probably would've had slightly more success against the Pats D, but not by an overwhelming amount), and because they tanked those last two regular season games. That was clearly worth it.

Edit: Fixed. Thanks Excel.

^Carolina is 17-2.

And why the hell didn't Carolina or New England ever run a no-huddle?

incredible defensive play from Denver, congrats

Peyton joins a list of QB's with multiple SB wins

Joe Montana 4-0
Terry Bradshaw 4-0
Tom Brady 4-2
Troy Aikman 3-0
Bart Starr 2-0
Jim Plunkett 2-0
Eli Manning 2-0
Bob Griese 2-1
Ben Roethllisberger 2-1
Roger Staubach 2-2
Peyton Manning 2-2
John Elway 2-3

Carolina dominated that game, but they couldn't muster a consistent run game and for some reason kept turning the ball over.

Nah, Ginn dropping that pass and Tolbert fumbling were not something Carolina normally does. Denver obviously gets credit for the 2 strip sacks.

Denver Defense dominated the game. That's what won it. Carolina wasn't creative enough, then again they didn't have a lot to be creative with in the passing game. Wish Cam sought Olsen more often, though Denver was weak against TE. Then again they probably protected that route extra.

Ginn dropping that pass?! That could not have come as a surprise, he isn't one of the more sure handed receivers in the game. Tolbert fumble unlucky but could happen too. Against this Denver defense you simply have to play mistake free, and you need a killer offense line. Carolina's good, but not good enough.
It all came down to Newton's shoulders and that was simply too much too ask.

At least if they didn't make the silly mistakes (punt return, 100yds of penalties, and others) the game would have been close enough they could come on top. And in that case you force Manning to through to come back, that probably wouldn't have ended well.
Now Denver did what it had to do, and Panthers weren't able to be at their best.

And this pretty much sums up what happened:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/cam-newton-never-had-a-chance/

Chiefs fan.

I didn't mean Ginn dropping the pass doesn't normally happen. I meant that him dropping the pass and it being intercepted was not normal.

Next Super Bowl is going to be in my backyard Houston.
Who wants to help me sneak in the game?

Right, that was an unlucky play.

What? Culpepper was Randy Moss's quarterback, and promptly did nothing when Moss left. Randall Cunningham had been out of the league 3 seasons before Moss caught 1,300 and 17 TD's. Matt Stafford is a superior QB to anybody not named Tom Brady that prime Randy Moss played with. Calvin is great, don't even compare him to Moss. Calvin scored 5 TD on 205 targets in all 2012. Moss scored 4 TD in the first half vs. Buffalo in 2007.

I've followed the game a while - Randy Moss it the best offensive weapon ever. Calvin is a fringe top 10 all time receiver. He is great, but the hyperbole around him went way overboard.

Not even close. Prime Owens would obliterate today's corners with today's rules. Not to the extent that the young Randy Moss, but way more than Calvin would.

Prime Moss and prime Owens are top two offensive weapons talents ever. There are no bigger difference makers at the WR/RB/TE positions than these two.

Moss was the leading scorer on two different teams which broke the offensive scoring record.

That's truly insane.

Nah, Calvin is a better all around WR than TO. You using his TD un-luck against him is silly.

No, I am not. T.O. had plenty of "un-luck" too - everybody does. Randy Moss could have scored well over 30 touchdowns in 2007 if "luck" had all gone his way.

Calvin cannot do this. This is against Champ Bailey:



He sure as hell could not do any of this stuff





Calvin was good but Moss and Owens are the two best QB toys I have ever seen.

Calvin can't break a tackle? I'm fairly certain he could break a tackle. Desean Jackson could've scored on that.

Calvin cannot juke for anything. His agility came at the expense of his size and strength. Owens was just as strong but was so much more agile and quick - a much better all around athlete.

I definitely wouldn't put Johnson in the TO/ Moss bracket. Johnson has been great because of his athleticism, pretty unique, but he lacked skills the best in the game had.