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2024 election - Second Republican debate
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Author:  Shack [ Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

Of the maybe 1 or 2 kids a day under 5 who die from covid in the US I'd venture a lot of them already had something wrong with them medically. For a healthy kid you've have to weigh the minuscule risk of them dying from covid vs chance of side effects or fact that there's test of long term effects yet vs the fact that vaccinated people seem to be getting covid all the time so it's not like you're ruling out the kid getting it. If someone comes to the conclusion after all that they should vaccinate them ok but it's far from a no brainer enough that the government should pay for it imo. DeSantis understands that people vaccinating their kids under 5 are doing it mostly based off emotion and fear porn. I say this as someone who still prefers Trump to DeSantis but I think the latter has done better on covid.

Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

Shack wrote:
If people are crazy enough to vaccinate kids under 5, they should do it on their own dollar

Our son is up to date on all his vaccines, why bot the latest vaccines against a current and real threat? Vaccines have been around since the 1700s, and only since the 1980s are people suddenly dumb about them

Author:  Shack [ Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
Shack wrote:
If people are crazy enough to vaccinate kids under 5, they should do it on their own dollar

Our son is up to date on all his vaccines, why bot the latest vaccines against a current and real threat? Vaccines have been around since the 1700s, and only since the 1980s are people suddenly dumb about them


I would argue being a relatively new type of vaccine (MRNA) and being out for like a year and a half makes it different than the normal ones kids take

Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

It’s the same thing but geared towards a different virus. The only reason it took this long is because they need to make sure it is effective against this specific virus and has less to do with how dangerous it is.

Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

Chippy wrote:
Covid is a top 5 killer of kids under 5. But sure, be a fucking idiot. Just mind bogglingly idiotic.


Source?

Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

From the CDC

Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.32% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 1 state reported zero child deaths
In states reporting, 0.00%-0.02% of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death

Author:  Alex Y. [ Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

zwackerm wrote:
Chippy wrote:
Covid is a top 5 killer of kids under 5. But sure, be a fucking idiot. Just mind bogglingly idiotic.


Source?


https://www.covid-georgia.com/pediatric ... -children/

Author:  Corpse [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

Eric Greitens (US Senate Candidate) calling for people to go kill/hunt RINOs by breaking into their homes, saying there's no bagging or tagging limit, in a political ad is a thing now.

Politics has gone too far. It's just gross.

Author:  Shack [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

I'd say the attempted assassination of Kavanaugh is an example of that

Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

The GOP reminds me of Jason from Strangers Things season 4 right now: confused, heated, angry, and willing to lynch innocent people

Author:  Cynosure [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

Corpse wrote:
Eric Greitens (US Senate Candidate) calling for people to go kill/hunt RINOs by breaking into their homes, saying there's no bagging or tagging limit, in a political ad is a thing now.

Politics has gone too far. It's just gross.


I can't believe this is even legal. :ohmy:

Author:  Shack [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

Cynosure wrote:
Corpse wrote:
Eric Greitens (US Senate Candidate) calling for people to go kill/hunt RINOs by breaking into their homes, saying there's no bagging or tagging limit, in a political ad is a thing now.

Politics has gone too far. It's just gross.


I can't believe this is even legal. :ohmy:


"It's RINO hunting season!" was clearly intended as a pun to say they should be voted out... In ill taste, but not really that big of a deal.

Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

It is not illegal because it is not a serious threat. However it is wildly inappropriate considering the same voting base has a history of violently reacting to similar call to arms.

Author:  Shack [ Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GOP 2024

Shack wrote:
Current rating on predictit

Republicans

Trump 37
DeSantis 34
Haley 7
Pence 6
Pompeo/Scott/Noem 3

Democrats

Biden 37
Harris 18
Buttigieg 14
Hillary 6
Newsom 5


Since posting this big move for Newsom up to 14 cents and ahead of Buttigieg. DeSantis also leads Trump 43-35 now.

Author:  Excel [ Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

Increasingly clear the GOP wants to at least challenge Trump, which they should. Who knows about Biden but he is easily in better standing than DT.

Author:  zwackerm [ Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

According to pollsters they would be neck and neck if you go by the polls on Wikipedia 2024 hypothetical election section between Trump and Biden.

Author:  Shack [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

Biden has historically bad approval rating for a president at this point in their first term

Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

Unlike Trump, Biden is not popular with those who voted for him. That’s actually a problem for Trump

Author:  Rev [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

if losing RIGHTS for HALF of the citizens of our country don't get people (liberals/conservatives/independents) out voting blue by huge margin, than I don't know what will.

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

Does voting even matter anymore? Even if Roe causes a blue wave that gives the democratics a massive majority in congress, one that cannot be thwarted by a filibuster, they'd still have to get the codified Roe v Wade through the supreme court and thats never going to happen.

Plus, all Pubs have to do is go out and say things like "Jesus is good, Immigrants are bad, Trump won the election, etc..." and they'll get the same people to turn up as always. Now, their numbers are way down since anti-vaxxers are the only ones still dying from covid, but it'll still be enough.

Author:  Shack [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

The polls show most people in the US (like 60-65%) have somewhat middle ground view of thinking abortion should be legal but only in the first trimester. So while they disagree with Roe v Wade ruling, it's possible they have a mixed enough feeling that they can accept this decision, and the ones who are in really in rage mode were voting Democrat anyway. There are also some pro life people who are going to be more energized to vote after this to cancel out the pro choice ones.

Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

Considering the new battleground is in the suburbs, this is bad news for the Republicans. However, I think the economy still reeling from the lockdowns is going to put the fickle minded voter on team Res

Author:  Excel [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

I think this is going to have enormous ramifications. This is taking away a right that people used to have. The principle is infuriating. Some moderate red states very well may see blue over performances.

Author:  Rev [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

Excel wrote:
I think this is going to have enormous ramifications. This is taking away a right that people used to have. The principle is infuriating. Some moderate red states very well may see blue over performances.


god willing

Author:  zwackerm [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2024 election

We'll see. If people voted for Republicans in the past but now flip due to this that would be really dumb considering this was clearly on the agenda for the last 50 years.

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