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Author:  i.hope [ Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

The difference between Biden and Trump on Iran (so far):

Biden utilizes both rewards (open to nuclear diplomacy) and punishment (sanctions, airstrikes on Iran-backed militias in Syria).

Trump shut the door on diplomacy and deployed only punishment (killing of Iran's top officials, sanctions, airstrikes).

And the development in the war in Yemen seems to have been overlooked:



Biden will end military aid to Saudi Arabia in Yemen.


Author:  Shack [ Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

I'm ok with Trump taking clear Saudi over Iran stance.

Author:  i.hope [ Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Trump fawning over the Saudis undercut US global leadership. Biden's approach is more balanced.

Author:  i.hope [ Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:00 am ]
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The Covid relief bill which includes $1,400 checks just passed the House. All but two Democrats voted "yes". All Republicans voted "no".


Author:  Corpse [ Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Did you rent your truck out, Rev? I know you wrote this song, but didn't think you'd let them use your truck as a backdrop over the weekend. ;)


Author:  Corpse [ Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)



I can't find this, but if it's the real wording...

Eviction or Utility Cutoff? For a month in rural America, sure. But the majority of Americans can't pay a single month's worth of rent and utilities with $1,400; they'd have to pick and choose.

Nurse a Teenager Back to Health? Umm. Okay. This is far too broad to really say much about, but I suppose it's not very ridiculous. Just ridiculous.

Seed Money for a Business? I guess it can be put TOWARDS seed money to start a business. But alone? LOL. A very big maybe for a very, very small business 50-years ago (maybe), but I think you'd honestly need to go back up to 100-years for this to be anywhere close to being a reasonable claim...

Education? It would cover most, or even all of textbooks and basic materials for one academic year, but saying it pays for an education is really stretching there to say the least.

Sense of Freedom? I guess I get where they're coming from (sense of RELIEF?), but placing a price on this is weird. If it helps one person pay their rent and basic needs for a month or so, yeah, I can see them having such a feeling... for a month.

And obviously it can't help with more than one issue listed here, so they should have put OR after each example.

I don't really like to tear into this. It's very, very long overdue and will be great when it passes, but it's just another example of how unbelievable out of touch most of Washington continues to be. I don't even know if calling this "out of touch" is reasonable anymore. It's moved beyond that.

Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Is this $1400 per adult individual, family or just children? Will this be given to everyone or only to citizens of America? Here only citizens got money and multiple times but lesser amount. It was sad that Green card equivalent pass holders in SG didn't get anything even though we contribute to government in every possible way a citizen does (specially Provident Fund which is possibly the biggest money maker for government).

This was a weird situation where non SG holders were pushed heavily to be out of jobs, they didn't get any relief and they would pay rent money to citizens (20-30% of your regular monthly salary) . It didn't feel the right but it didn't matter to me much because I had a stable job.

Author:  i.hope [ Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Jack Sparrow wrote:
Is this $1400 per adult individual, family or just children? Will this be given to everyone or only to citizens of America? Here only citizens got money and multiple times but lesser amount. It was sad that Green card equivalent pass holders in SG didn't get anything even though we contribute to government in every possible way a citizen does (specially Provident Fund which is possibly the biggest money maker for government).

This was a weird situation where non SG holders were pushed heavily to be out of jobs, they didn't get any relief and they would pay rent money to citizens (20-30% of your regular monthly salary) . It didn't feel the right but it didn't matter to me much because I had a stable job.


$1,400 per individual (adult dependents will qualify this time around). All citizens and green card holders are eligible (same with the first two rounds of stimulus).

Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

That's good to hear.

Author:  Corpse [ Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:12 pm ]
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Well, for those that qualify based on yearly income, and then the amount is phased out depending on that number.

Those most in need are likely to qualify, but there's going to be a certain amount that will likely need it but just miss out. Especially since this bill is using 2019 tax information once again, not 2020. A lot of people's financial situation changed between 2019 and 2020.

Again, it's great that something is being done. But the amount is on the low end, has come very late, and uses 2-year old information to determine qualification. There's a lot more than can be done, and not just in terms of X amount of money being sent out to people.

The stimulus money itself probably should be separate from any package so that it could be properly worked out. A lot of those in opposition like to say that a lot of people won't use the money, and if they do, they'll use it to pay off credit card debt. Not saying this is wrong, but it's more likely to happen if the money is sent out in a lump sum as it has been. Stimulus money sent out monthly, just say $500, over a 4-6 month period while the pandemic was (is) going on would have been a better solution to most issues brought up. It'd be more likely put towards rent or bills, or food, versus paying off a credit card in this example. Not to mention provide assistance over a longer period of time versus a single month or so, and it wouldn't be that much higher in the end.

Author:  i.hope [ Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Corpse wrote:

Those most in need are likely to qualify, but there's going to be a certain amount that will likely need it but just miss out. Especially since this bill is using 2019 tax information once again, not 2020. A lot of people's financial situation changed between 2019 and 2020.



Actually people can use either their 2019 or 2020 tax return to claim the payment. And they can use the Recovery Rebate Credit in 2020 tax returns to get back any missed or additional payments from the first two rounds of stimulus if their financial eligibility changes in 2020.

And yes, the stimulus is means-tested. Anyone whose individual adjusted gross income is $100,000 or more won't qualify for any stimulus.

I am okay with people using stimulus money to pay off their credit card debts. Many people use credit cards to pay bills. One of the goals of stimulus is to boost consumer spending/increase demands. So credit card use is fine.

If the bill is a standalone, they might not be able to get the money for vaccine distribution or aid for schools to reopen.

Author:  Shack [ Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

It's really amazing how hard they make it look to pass a covid stimulus bill that has nothing else in it instead of attaching it to massive sticking point like the minimum wage

Author:  Shack [ Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Shack wrote:
With all the outrage about everything these days, is the world finally ready to admit that Cuomo and other governors ordering covid patients into nursing homes (and now it appears covering it up) was one of the worst things anyone has done in years???


They won't talk about you killing nursing home patients if they're focused on your sexual harassment allegations instead

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Author:  i.hope [ Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

The Biden administration will have secured enough vaccine supply for every adult by the end of May.


Author:  i.hope [ Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:16 pm ]
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Is Biden doing something about this? This is more than a human rights issue. One-party state China is taking advantage of the free market and free speech protected by liberal democracies to export state censorship, economic dependence and illiberalism. Hong Kong is one of its testing points and sacrificial lambs.









China continues its totalitarian grip in Hong Kong. The HK government began rounding up citizens for holding and running in unofficial primary elections for the opposition camp. 47 people were arrested on subversion charges under a new national security law imposed by China, The new law itself was a breach of the one-country-two-systems constitutional principle and trambling HK's judicial independence. Under the new law, arrestees would be denied bail "by default", which was unheard of before in HK, a common-law jurisdiction. This was the first time holding a privately held primary to select candidates for legislative elections was considered a crime in HK.

The US should lead a coalition with the EU, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and other countries to keep China's illiberal influence at bay.

Author:  Shack [ Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Is China fascist or communist? I say fascist. Their economy seems like it has similarities to Nazi Germany in terms of being capitalist in reality but the government having to be ok with you and having some ownership, both masters of propaganda and censorship, and it’s not like China lacks for nationalism.

Author:  i.hope [ Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

I agree. It's much closer to fascism than to communism. It allows some private ownership of capital but ultimately big business in the private sector is under the one-party state control and serves the nation-state interest.

Author:  Cynosure [ Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:29 am ]
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I'm afraid the EU will not do anything. They've just signed a trade deal with China. That's one of the many reasons Trump treating both China and the EU as enemies was a disaster, it pushed the EU in the arms of China.

Author:  Shack [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Good thing for the filibuster and Manchin and Sinema holding the line stopping this bill forcing nation wide California style elections of mail in voting/no voter ID/unlimited ballot harvesting/etc. (isn't it in the constitution that elections are supposed to be by state? I guess the Supreme Court could get rid of it too) and it being illegal to question the results after. The Democrats unlimited thirst for power and likely desire to make it a one party state is being held in check by two people on their side.

Author:  Corpse [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Can't wait for Trump to get sworn in on the actual Inauguration Day later this afternoon!

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Shack wrote:
Good thing for the filibuster and Manchin and Sinema holding the line stopping this bill forcing nation wide California style elections of mail in voting/no voter ID/unlimited ballot harvesting/etc. (isn't it in the constitution that elections are supposed to be by state? I guess the Supreme Court could get rid of it too) and it being illegal to question the results after. The Democrats unlimited thirst for power and likely desire to make it a one party state is being held in check by two people on their side.
Yup, people actually voting is the biggest threat to democracy!

#RepublicanLogic

Author:  Corpse [ Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

No media outlet has begun airing the inauguration yet. But they have 4.5 hours left, so they still have plenty of time remaining. The Trump camp is probably trying to figure out how to fit the record 10 billion supporters (conservative estimate) on the grounds before taking it on air.

Author:  Cynosure [ Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:29 pm ]
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Shack wrote:
Good thing for the filibuster and Manchin and Sinema holding the line stopping this bill forcing nation wide California style elections of mail in voting/no voter ID/unlimited ballot harvesting/etc. (isn't it in the constitution that elections are supposed to be by state? I guess the Supreme Court could get rid of it too) and it being illegal to question the results after. The Democrats unlimited thirst for power and likely desire to make it a one party state is being held in check by two people on their side.


I suspect many more democratic senators support the filibuster than those who are willing to come out openly about it. It's a convenient excuse to never achieving anything legislatively speaking.

Author:  Shack [ Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

I like her fashion


Author:  Shack [ Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Democracy 2020 (President Biden, Vice Pres Harris)

Cynosure wrote:
Shack wrote:
Good thing for the filibuster and Manchin and Sinema holding the line stopping this bill forcing nation wide California style elections of mail in voting/no voter ID/unlimited ballot harvesting/etc. (isn't it in the constitution that elections are supposed to be by state? I guess the Supreme Court could get rid of it too) and it being illegal to question the results after. The Democrats unlimited thirst for power and likely desire to make it a one party state is being held in check by two people on their side.


I suspect many more democratic senators support the filibuster than those who are willing to come out openly about it. It's a convenient excuse to never achieving anything legislatively speaking.


The 8 Democrats who voted against the minimum wage may be a closer number to how many are against it

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