Primaries: Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida
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jujubee
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 Re: Primaries: Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida Dkmuto wrote: Florida today (I almost forgot!). I voted.
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Re: Primaries: Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida The Jedi have no chance against Imperial forces in a state with so many old people. But thanks for voting. 
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jujubee
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Re: Primaries: Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida Angela Merkel wrote: The Jedi have no chance against Imperial forces in a state with so many old people. But thanks for voting. Plus, I voted for Edwards. 
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Re: Primaries: Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida jujubee wrote: Angela Merkel wrote: The Jedi have no chance against Imperial forces in a state with so many old people. But thanks for voting. Plus, I voted for Edwards. Nothing wrong with that. Edwards is Jedi too.
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mdana
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Re: Primaries: Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida mdana wrote: Archie Gates wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: just once, I'd like Obama to explain one of the changes. Granted, he explains how change is due and how hard it'll be. But doesn't really explain it. I still like him, he's just too preachy for me.
I feel like I'm being sermonized. Yeah I don't like that about him either, he's so vague and preachy. But do we want 4 or 8 years of Bill Clinton jetting around the world conducting his own diplomacy and making big speeches, overshadowing Hillary? It seems likely he'd do that. I'd take that over a stealth candidate like Obama. I think if he gets elected (which is still a big if)it will be 4 and out. He won't be able to run as the candidate of change in 2012. He certainly won't have a record of accomplishment either. Both Carter and Bill Clinton had serious trouble in their first terms with Dem majorities in Congress. Dem politicians don't support their President in the same way as Republican politicians. It's like herding cats.Both Obama and Clinton have some huge obstacles to face. If Obama is only getting 1/4 white Dem voters and Clinton is not getting enough white male Dem. voters both are in trouble in the general election. Speaking of herding catsQuote: Herding Cats
— By Kevin Drum
| Wed Dec. 8, 2010 9:40 AM PST
...Politico and its ilk thrive on controversy, and I imagine this piece probably overstates things. But if I were forced to choose, I think I'd side with Obama on this one. I mean, if congressional Dems were able to get him a better deal, how likely is it that Obama would reject it just because he wants to "distance himself" from Congress? That just doesn't ring true. Congressional Dems simply haven't shown any spine or any negotiating ability on tax issues. Maybe Obama bears some of the blame for that, but you can only lead a party that's willing to be led in the first place. The Democratic caucus doesn't seem to be.
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