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Post Primaries: Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida
We needed a new thread. These are the four states holding primaries between now and Super Tuesday.


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Post Re: Primaries: Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida
I'd look up past polls, but I really don't see them meaning anything at all now. Only polls taken after NH for Nevada/South Carolina will be accurate (or as accurate as polls can get). Then again, only polls after Nevada will polls really matter for South Carolina. And the same goes for the Republicans candidates.

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dates?

isnt michigan invalid?

anyways, barrack needs wins in nevada and sc if he wants to put hillary away on super tuesday.

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dates?

isnt michigan invalid?

anyways, barrack needs wins in nevada and sc if he wants to put hillary away on super tuesday.



Michigan and Flordia still count for the Republicans.

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Michigan: 15th
Nevada: 19th
South Carolina: 26th
Flordia: 29th

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ah, thanks

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Excel wrote:
dates?

isnt michigan invalid?

anyways, barrack needs wins in nevada and sc if he wants to put hillary away on super tuesday.


Not to be nitpicky and annoying, excel, but just because I keep seeing it, it's Barack, not Barrack... like soldiers' barracks. :)


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heh; some supporter i guess :P

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Excel wrote:
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isnt michigan invalid?

anyways, barrack needs wins in nevada and sc if he wants to put hillary away on super tuesday.


Obama was endorsed by the Culinary Workers Union today in Nevada.


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Romney might be shorter on funds than I thought, because he just canceled ad buys in Florida or SC (can't remember which one). Romney, McCain, and Huckabee are polling neck and neck in Michigan. This is not good news for Romney since he is a native son and has a solid organization in the state and Huckabee is just starting his organization. Michigan might be do or die for Romney. Well according to MSNBC.

If Romney gets fatally wounded then McCain might be able to stop Hucakbee, because the anti-Huckabee voters won't be split between him and Romney. I find this race very interesting, because so many candidates are choosing certain states to make their statements: McCain in NH, Thompson in SC, and Giuliani in Florida.

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Huckabee will win SC.

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Obama should remain ahead in Nevada. He secured the endorsements of both the Culinary Workers Union and the SEIU Nevada chapter. That's over 100,000 members and retirees in a state where about that many people vote. Of course, most union members will not be voting either, but the heft still remains.

Michael Bloomberg's third-party consideration is getting more transparent by the day. He may well run if Obama fails to clinch the Democratic nomination -- mark my words. His advantage over other independent candidates in history is that... he has unlimited money, for all practical intents.

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Excel wrote:
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isnt michigan invalid?

anyways, barrack needs wins in nevada and sc if he wants to put hillary away on super tuesday.


Obama was endorsed by the Culinary Workers Union today in Nevada.

Now I want Hillary to win Nevada just to avoid the media saying to stick a fork in her, she's done.


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Now I want Hillary to win Nevada just to avoid the media saying to stick a fork in her, she's done.


I wouldn't want them to say it if it weren't true (we've had enough of the media memes about Obama AND Clinton), but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if it were true.


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Apparently Romney got a boost of funds for the Michigan showdown.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/ ... id=1065671

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Mitt Romney’s reeling campaign received a much-needed $5 million jolt of donations yesterday that aides say poured in from more than 10,000 contributors backing the former governor as he prepares to do battle in Michigan.


Good for him. I really think he'll win Michigan.

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i've been trying to figure out who bloomberg would hurt the most and I really cant tell. I think it'll hurt democrats more but I could be wrong.


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i've been trying to figure out who bloomberg would hurt the most and I really cant tell. I think it'll hurt democrats more but I could be wrong.

I think it depends on the candidate. Bloomberg would take just about all the Independents, so whichever candidate appeals most to the base wins.

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Jim Halpert wrote:
i've been trying to figure out who bloomberg would hurt the most and I really cant tell. I think it'll hurt democrats more but I could be wrong.

I think it depends on the candidate. Bloomberg would take just about all the Independents, so whichever candidate appeals most to the base wins.


so he'd hurt guiliani and obama. Obama because of the independs and Guiliani and new york.


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jujubee wrote:
Jim Halpert wrote:
i've been trying to figure out who bloomberg would hurt the most and I really cant tell. I think it'll hurt democrats more but I could be wrong.

I think it depends on the candidate. Bloomberg would take just about all the Independents, so whichever candidate appeals most to the base wins.

Giuliani, definitely. What better candidate to impale a good mayor of New York than a better mayor of New York?
McCain as well, possibly. He depends on a sizable independent vote. Obama is actually safer than those two if he wins the nomination, because Democrats have a major structural advantage in this election cycle, e.g. voter registrations. He'll get most Hillary supporters' votes in the general election, as those tend to be the most ardent Democrats.

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Bloomberg is not running. He is just feeding his ego. There is no support for him like there was for Perot. If he is running he is seriously wasting some good money, because if he spent $150m to run in NYC, then he will blow through $500m easy. I doubt he will get much support. Who wants to vote for someone nobody knows. Perot was well-known. He was a wacko, but well-liked and people drafted him.

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A better use for money than Larry Ellison ever found, for sure.

You know, every time I see your screenname I think of Dana Milbank. Maybe that's meant to be subliminal. :shades:

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A better use for money than Larry Ellison ever found, for sure.

You know, every time I see your screenname I think of Dana Milbank. Maybe that's meant to be subliminal. :shades:


When I started posting, I think he was still with the New Republic. Actually he joined the Post for the 2000 campaign. We have similiar names.

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Unity '08 to shut down and reconstitute itself as a "Draft Bloomberg" movement. Because in the wake of catastrophic conservative governance, America needs two center-left candidates to split the vote and ensure the catastrophe continues!


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Now it appears they're going to choose the candidate for me, without my input. It's very sad.


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Wow, what an egomaniac. Anyone who votes for this putz should be used as the live game on one of Cheney's "Big Game" hunts.

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Some new post-NH polls:

Rasmussen on South Carolina
Obama - 42%
Clinton - 30%
Edwards - 15%
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McCain - 27%
Huckabee - 24%
Romney - 16%
Thompson - 12%
Giuliani - 6%
Paul - 5%
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Fox on South Carolina
McCain - 25%
Huckabee - 18%
Romney - 17%
Thompson - 9%
Giuliani - 5%
Paul - 5%

Rasmussen National Poll
Clinton - 34%
Obama - 33%
Edwards - 15%

Huckabee - 22%
McCain - 18%
Romney - 18%
Thompson - 10%
Giuliani - 10%
Paul - 4%

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Hah. It will be interesting to see what the media does with that. Certainly if it was Hillary who did that, she'd be made fun of nonstop for a week.


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