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Chippy
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
How dare Obama not be an engineer! What a moron!
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:09 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Chip Munkington wrote: How dare Obama not be an engineer! What a moron! Whatever post whore. And lol as Munk is the only one who tries to support Obama. So that alone supports my point that Obama is a f up.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:23 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Other people have better things to do than argue with you. Like gouge out there brain.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:27 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Chip Munkington wrote: Other people have better things to do than argue with you. Like gouge out there brain. whatever, post whore....stop making excuses. Obama is a f up who has screwed up the USA forever as there is no coming back from this Presidency!
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:24 pm |
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Caius
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Perhaps if we had more stimulus spending the economy would be doing better than the dour reports from today indicate.
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Tyler
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Grill wrote: Tyler wrote: Grill wrote: Tyler wrote: WACHOO GONNA DOOO Whatever loser/punk as I am giving everyone a chance to post anything good about Obama as most non clueless people have long since jumped from the Obama bandwagon as Obama is buried up to his head from all his past screw-ups evan more than all the oil slicked birds that are now dead as Obama f up the oil spill disaster. WHACHOO GONNA DOOOO You're an engineer, right? Hanging out with all those celebrities, right, Goldie? Give a solution. GOLDIE!!! SO YOU ADMIT OBAMA ISN'T UP TO THE JOB OR HIS STUPID PROMISES - SO LET HIM QUIT! GLAD WE AGREE! Want an engineer for president?
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:29 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Tyler wrote: Grill wrote: Tyler wrote: Grill wrote: Tyler wrote: WACHOO GONNA DOOO Whatever loser/punk as I am giving everyone a chance to post anything good about Obama as most non clueless people have long since jumped from the Obama bandwagon as Obama is buried up to his head from all his past screw-ups evan more than all the oil slicked birds that are now dead as Obama f up the oil spill disaster. WHACHOO GONNA DOOOO You're an engineer, right? Hanging out with all those celebrities, right, Goldie? Give a solution. GOLDIE!!! SO YOU ADMIT OBAMA ISN'T UP TO THE JOB OR HIS STUPID PROMISES - SO LET HIM QUIT! GLAD WE AGREE! Want an engineer for president? No Losers he shouldn't be doing it himself but he should be asking the right people the right questions and setting up the correct starting points. God, you people are even more clueless than Obama.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:18 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Holy shit
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:24 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Chip Munkington wrote: Holy shit I know you aren't smart enough but instead of the usually crap you post, let's see if you can post anything that Obama did that didn't turn out bad. Ok Loser!!!
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:43 pm |
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Argos
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
'Amerikaner' is no longer an insult.
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:01 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
On this 4th of July, America's Independence Day Weekend, I can report that Obama has done nothing worthy or good as President, except ruin our country for future generations.
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Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:44 pm |
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Argos
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Are you his bodyguard?
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Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:52 pm |
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TonyMontana
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
"good or worthy" is too subjective.
I tend to base my judgment on presidents using factual data. I debated this way many times when evaluating Clinton or the Bushes. For example, the last Bush doubled unemployment from 4% to 8%, drove up the deficit, and the Dow plummeted under his watch. I can't find many indicators to suggest he did well, only excuses/spin as to why things went so poorly. On the flip side, all these indicators rose for Clinton pretty dramatically from the first Bush.
As for Obama, for me, the first year has been mixed.
The Dow has lately been pretty consistently at 2000-3000 above when he took office, and I think most economic indicators are above where they were in he took office.
The unemployment rate has risen from 8.1% to 9.3%
Deficit wise, I believe that Bush was running a $700 billion one when he left office, and Obama is around $1.5 trillion, but I could be slightly off on those figures.
There are other indicators as well, but on those big ones, I feel Obama has made some progress in the economy based on where it was when he took office. Unemployment is higher, but is headed downward, as opposed to upward when he took office. The deficit is where I'd give him very poor marks.
It's hard to predict the future, but looking at graphs and data, it does suggest that most indicators, outside of the deficit, are heading in a positive direction, or at least leveling off from what they were when Bush left office.
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Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:07 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
TonyMontana wrote: "good or worthy" is too subjective.
I tend to base my judgment on presidents using factual data. I debated this way many times when evaluating Clinton or the Bushes. For example, the last Bush doubled unemployment from 4% to 8%, drove up the deficit, and the Dow plummeted under his watch. I can't find many indicators to suggest he did well, only excuses/spin as to why things went so poorly. On the flip side, all these indicators rose for Clinton pretty dramatically from the first Bush.
As for Obama, for me, the first year has been mixed.
The Dow has lately been pretty consistently at 2000-3000 above when he took office, and I think most economic indicators are above where they were in he took office.
The unemployment rate has risen from 8.1% to 9.3%
Deficit wise, I believe that Bush was running a $700 billion one when he left office, and Obama is around $1.5 trillion, but I could be slightly off on those figures.
There are other indicators as well, but on those big ones, I feel Obama has made some progress in the economy based on where it was when he took office. Unemployment is higher, but is headed downward, as opposed to upward when he took office. The deficit is where I'd give him very poor marks.
It's hard to predict the future, but looking at graphs and data, it does suggest that most indicators, outside of the deficit, are heading in a positive direction, or at least leveling off from what they were when Bush left office. and people this is a good try at an answer! thanks for responding!
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Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:45 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Lots of people claiming about Obama's > GOP lawmakers wary of Obama's Afghan deadline >>> seems like he just picked a date out of a hat without thinking about it.
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Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:33 pm |
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TonyMontana
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Grill wrote: and people this is a good try at an answer! thanks for responding! I'm left to assume that you then agree with me... that in the areas outside of the deficit, Obama has shown improvements over Bush, or at least it appears headed in a better direction.
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nghtvsn
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Picked Kagan to be a Justice. I loved her answer on the gun rights being settled law. That was giving Feinstein a headache.
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Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:34 pm |
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Caius
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
nghtvsn wrote: Picked Kagan to be a Justice. I loved her answer on the gun rights being settled law. That was giving Feinstein a headache. Justice Sotomayor said the same thing then ruled in the opposite direction in McDonald v. City of Chicago. Saying something is "settled law" does not mean that a justice will not try and change the settled law. I am 100% sure that Kagan will not side with the 2nd Amendment as fundamental/incorporated right wing of the court. If Senator Feinstein thinks Kagan would vote with the "conservative" wing of the court on that issue, then she is frankly an idiot and should not be on the judiciary committee (just like Al Franken).
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Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:26 pm |
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nghtvsn
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
I saw a clip over Sotomayor's switcheroo. I see where you're coming from, but we can only hope that Kagan sticks with what she's saying and follows what the court has recently ruled.
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Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:25 am |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
So Obama and the federal gov't have a problem with Arizona enforcing illegal immigration. The federal gov't says no you can't as immigration is under federal laws.
But why should the states stand by and not enforce broken laws when the federal government and the finger pointing Obama do nothing.
*** and to all of those who say that America would fall apart without these illegal immigrants working those jobs.
Well teenagers always use to work those jobs to pay for school and other things and now teenage unemployment ranges from 30 to 50 %.
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Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:34 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Are you going to disagree with everything Obama does/says?
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:40 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Chipo DiCaprio wrote: Are you going to disagree with everything Obama does/says? are you ever going to response with any decent information????? and this now is only an AP/Yahoo front page story...not that I would expect too many here to discuss....as most have long jumped off the Obama bandwagon ... and now have their heads buried in the sand ..... with anything that concerns Obama.... maybe they will have better lucj picking and standing behind the next President..... and on your Obama and the Yahoo story.... As Dems lay low, GOP hits Obama on Arizona lawsuit By Charles Babington, Associated Press Writer – 5 mins ago WASHINGTON – Republicans denounced the Obama administration's challenge of Arizona's new immigration law Tuesday, a fresh sign they may try to paint Democrats this fall as soft on illegal border crossings. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> story continues but why post as most here are like Munk > clueless.
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Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:04 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
hey Munk, still waiting for comments!!!!
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Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:30 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Comments about?
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:31 pm |
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Grill
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Re: Has Obama done anything good or worthy as President
Chipo DiCaprio wrote: Comments about? anything, mr post whore, anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and why don't you explain why you think Obama is doing a good job?
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Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:44 pm |
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