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The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
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Author:  Shack [ Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:25 pm ]
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Main issue with the succession plan was Harris ended up a comedy character who always sounds like when you didn't read the book but have to BS your way through it when the teacher asks you to describe it to the class.

You can already tell the Democrats are going the scary language propaganda route are gonna say threat to our democracy, MAGA extremists and deadly insurrection like a thousand times.
Author:  Barrabás [ Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:32 pm ]
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Algren wrote:
Shack wrote:
Biden's proposal on trans sports is pretty reasonable honestly saying that they have the choice to ban it for the high level serious athletics and not lose federal funding, but if conservatives schools start banning 12 year old trans girls from playing soccer or something just to prove a political point, it will be crossing a line and they will not be receiving the funding.


But what happens when that 12 year old grows up and wants to compete professionally? If there's no place for them that will also be wrong. So I think it's more than just proving a point. You do it to deter such issues later on, no?


The answer to trans in sports is very simple: no more gendered categories in any sports. Everyone competes against everyone, always, in every sport. No more women's teams, it's just the team, period, and men, women, intersex, trans, non-binary, etc etc can all compete. If it results in the overwhelming majority of teams in any sport being only men, then that is the price to pay, move on, find something else to do with your life.
Author:  stuffp [ Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:49 pm ]
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It's weird that more efforts are being made to consider the equality of, a very small group of, transgender people than solving bigger world/societal problems.
Author:  Cynosure [ Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:18 pm ]
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Barrabás wrote:
Algren wrote:
Shack wrote:
Biden's proposal on trans sports is pretty reasonable honestly saying that they have the choice to ban it for the high level serious athletics and not lose federal funding, but if conservatives schools start banning 12 year old trans girls from playing soccer or something just to prove a political point, it will be crossing a line and they will not be receiving the funding.


But what happens when that 12 year old grows up and wants to compete professionally? If there's no place for them that will also be wrong. So I think it's more than just proving a point. You do it to deter such issues later on, no?


The answer to trans in sports is very simple: no more gendered categories in any sports. Everyone competes against everyone, always, in every sport. No more women's teams, it's just the team, period, and men, women, intersex, trans, non-binary, etc etc can all compete. If it results in the overwhelming majority of teams in any sport being only men, then that is the price to pay, move on, find something else to do with your life.


That would be a horrible idea, pulling back women's sports nearly a century. Males are just biologically stronger and faster than females on average, so having everyone compete against everyone would basically leave only men competing.
Author:  Shack [ Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:51 pm ]
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There’s clearly enough people interested in watching and playing women’s sports to justify it
Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:37 pm ]
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I think the whole trans issue when it comes to women sports has been a blessing in disguise. All of these people who used to mock women’s sports are now championing it because of their bigotry towards trans people. I think the last NCAA women’s basketball tournament was the biggest in the national zeitgeist.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Wed May 10, 2023 3:56 pm ]
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George Santos when he returns to congress:
Author:  Barrabás [ Wed May 17, 2023 8:26 pm ]
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Cynosure wrote:
Barrabás wrote:
Algren wrote:
Shack wrote:
Biden's proposal on trans sports is pretty reasonable honestly saying that they have the choice to ban it for the high level serious athletics and not lose federal funding, but if conservatives schools start banning 12 year old trans girls from playing soccer or something just to prove a political point, it will be crossing a line and they will not be receiving the funding.


But what happens when that 12 year old grows up and wants to compete professionally? If there's no place for them that will also be wrong. So I think it's more than just proving a point. You do it to deter such issues later on, no?


The answer to trans in sports is very simple: no more gendered categories in any sports. Everyone competes against everyone, always, in every sport. No more women's teams, it's just the team, period, and men, women, intersex, trans, non-binary, etc etc can all compete. If it results in the overwhelming majority of teams in any sport being only men, then that is the price to pay, move on, find something else to do with your life.


That would be a horrible idea, pulling back women's sports nearly a century. Males are just biologically stronger and faster than females on average, so having everyone compete against everyone would basically leave only men competing.


I'm just saying that is where the logic leads. If sex is gender and gender is a construct then you can choose to ignore it.
Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu May 18, 2023 12:28 pm ]
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Barrabás wrote:
Cynosure wrote:
Barrabás wrote:
Algren wrote:
Shack wrote:
Biden's proposal on trans sports is pretty reasonable honestly saying that they have the choice to ban it for the high level serious athletics and not lose federal funding, but if conservatives schools start banning 12 year old trans girls from playing soccer or something just to prove a political point, it will be crossing a line and they will not be receiving the funding.


But what happens when that 12 year old grows up and wants to compete professionally? If there's no place for them that will also be wrong. So I think it's more than just proving a point. You do it to deter such issues later on, no?


The answer to trans in sports is very simple: no more gendered categories in any sports. Everyone competes against everyone, always, in every sport. No more women's teams, it's just the team, period, and men, women, intersex, trans, non-binary, etc etc can all compete. If it results in the overwhelming majority of teams in any sport being only men, then that is the price to pay, move on, find something else to do with your life.


That would be a horrible idea, pulling back women's sports nearly a century. Males are just biologically stronger and faster than females on average, so having everyone compete against everyone would basically leave only men competing.


I'm just saying that is where the logic leads. If sex is gender and gender is a construct then you can choose to ignore it.


You see, this is where I am at as well. Sex is something set in stone that you cannot change, but it should not dictate your gender, but at the end of the day when it comes to athletics, your sex statically is a factor that can give one an advantage over the other. It is more complicated than that of course, and the data we currently have doesn’t seem to point to a pattern of unfair advantages for trans athletes as the fears are rather speculative, but I still understand the concerns. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a way to address these concerns without coming across as transphobic.
Author:  stuffp [ Fri May 19, 2023 7:38 am ]
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Yeah, the trans athlete debate is being formed in that one is either a transphobic or a misogynist and a reasonable in between opinion is not allowed.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Fri May 19, 2023 3:47 pm ]
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Yeah it's the one issue I hear anytime I pose the question "why do you care if someone is trans or not?"

People don't really even care about the bathroom thing anymore. Trans women dominating sports is just not a good look for anyone though. Seems like there should just be a PrideOlympics or something.
Author:  Algren [ Fri May 19, 2023 4:55 pm ]
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
You see, this is where I am at as well. Sex is something set in stone that you cannot change, but it should not dictate your gender, but at the end of the day when it comes to athletics, your sex statically is a factor that can give one an advantage over the other. It is more complicated than that of course, and the data we currently have doesn’t seem to point to a pattern of unfair advantages for trans athletes as the fears are rather speculative, but I still understand the concerns. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a way to address these concerns without coming across as transphobic.


I'm not sure it is more complicated than that. The left and the trans community keep banging the drum that it is more complicated until they get the result they desire. But it comes down to gendered sports groups are there for a reason, have been for decades, and it's a system that works.
Author:  Shack [ Fri May 19, 2023 5:48 pm ]
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I can't get too bent out of shape about it until I see a trans win Wimbledon or something, when it comes to someone like Lia Thomas them reportedly having a habit of waving their dick around women they're attracted to in the lockerroom stood out to me more than beating them in some races.

I was watching a women's competitive gaming tournament (Mario 64 speedrunning) and seeing cis women lost to trans women was probably the first time it bugged me, while you can say there isn't an advantage other than in indirect ways like females with their social bonds are less likely to grow up playing games 10 hours a day, ultimately, it just wasn't what I was there for, I wanted to see the novelty of chicks who are really good at video games. The eventual winner did end up being a cis woman, though.
Author:  Barrabás [ Tue May 23, 2023 4:56 pm ]
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Shack wrote:
I can't get too bent out of shape about it until I see a trans win Wimbledon or something, when it comes to someone like Lia Thomas them reportedly having a habit of waving their dick around women they're attracted to in the lockerroom stood out to me more than beating them in some races.

I was watching a women's competitive gaming tournament (Mario 64 speedrunning) and seeing cis women lost to trans women was probably the first time it bugged me, while you can say there isn't an advantage other than in indirect ways like females with their social bonds are less likely to grow up playing games 10 hours a day, ultimately, it just wasn't what I was there for, I wanted to see the novelty of chicks who are really good at video games. The eventual winner did end up being a cis woman, though.


And yet every olympic medalist for women's swimming would lose to a male high schooler.......personally I just don't see why women's sports is that important to get bent out of shape over. In my recollection aside from figure skating and acrobatics because it's basically softcore porn, no one seemed to really give a shit about women's sports until very recently. Personally I don't give a shit about any kind of sport. I have always been completely mystified as to why people spend hours watching people kick a ball across a screen. Neither myself nor anyone I know will ever be an athlete. The absolute vast majority of people won't be either. Who cares if a tiny group of women are getting beaten to first place by a dude in a wig. Like is it that important? We have skyrocketing cost of living and rent to deal with and never ending immigration destroying wages. That is issue #1 that should be dominating politics and media, not this nonsense. They want you to be focusing on unstable dudes in wigs and not on how the west is becoming slave nations.
Author:  Corpse [ Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:16 pm ]
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Good to see that the House can't proceed with with their jobs, bringing the legislature to a halt, because the majority is sinking their own bills now. There should be work requirements in place for them to receive pay/benefits they do.

McCarthy stepping down or someone in the Freedom Caucus bringing up a vote to remove him. Seems 50/50. The Speakership for Republicans is cursed. If McCarthy is removed/resigns, he'll be the third consecutive Republican Speaker to do so over a party that is unmanageable.
Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:21 am ]
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Looks like the economy is doing well and is healthy. Not a good sign for the GOP. Do wish we would work on the federal budget though.
Author:  Corpse [ Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:41 am ]
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Good job, Ohio! (Not sarcasm this time!)

Clear defeat of Issue 1 which would have made it so that a a supermajority was needed to make constitutional amendments. Last ditch effort of the Ohio GOP (taking away their own voting power) to make abortion rights more difficult to achieve by the voters.

With this result, and what happened in Kentucky, Montana, and Kansas when abortion rights were on the ballot vs being decided by the legislature for everyone instead, it appears highly likely you'll vote for the same in November. So far, when abortion rights are on the ballot, no state has denied them.

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Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:33 pm ]
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I'm glad it was struck down with a strong majority ... but imagine walking into a poll and selecting "I want to reduce my own voting power."

I know both cons and libs tried to make it about abortion to increase turnout, but there was alot more than that riding on the issue.
Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:01 am ]
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Biden continues to keep polling low despite his string of successes. He has arguably had one of the most successful terms in the 21st century. The United States has much better fought inflation than pretty much every other first world nation, the bi-partisan infrastructure bills he lobbied for have been the most successful movements to come out of congress in decades (so successful that GOP politicians are campaigning on them). He quickly United the west after the disastrous Trump years made it seem like it would take years to mend that. The intelligence community has been widely successful in taking in the Russians via Ukraine. Perhaps his only two issues have been the failed retreat from Afghanistan (which is partly to blame for Trump’s dumbass deal with the Taliban in the proceeding February) and the inability to tackle to debt leading to a lowering of our international credit score.

Yet why does he remain so unpopular?

The answer is super simple: the GOP base will never see anything positive under a Democrat and the progressive base will only support a die hard progressive, merely tolerating anyone else (it doesn’t help that Biden is old and white).
Author:  Shack [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:08 am ]
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I’d probably have him as 2nd best president of 2000s so far tbh but mostly because Bush and Obama set the bar so low.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:08 pm ]
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What hurts is that most people assume that Biden isn't actually making any of these decisions. He's just a figurehead who is really old and sometimes does weird things. This thread should be titled "The Biden Era: Mid, But Still Better Than The Alternative."

It is funny how Trump people take the lack of Biden support as proof that he is a bad President rather than proof that they are fanatical. Criticizing the President, even if hes in your party, is what should be normal. Obsessively defending every single thing that the President does is a MAGA cult thing only.
Author:  Shack [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:30 pm ]
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His best move to me was leaving Afghanistan even if it was messy. The Ukraine stuff is tbd. His foreign policy seems ok.

I don’t see why the inflation concerned voters would be impressed by Biden’s economy, it would be equally wrong it call it all his fault, but he did support big spending bills which contributed to inflation and he usually chooses climate change over oil/gas such cancelling Keystone pipeline and announced today cancelling Alaska leases. Then from culture perspective the US is probably the most divided than it’s been since the Civil War with both sides thinking the other are tyrants who want to end free elections. Once again that’s not all Biden’s fault and it’s unclear how much he’s had coordination with people like Garland, Smith, or Willis, but his speeches have not doing anything to bridge the gap, instead trying to fear monger the base into voting for Democrats by calling them MAGA terrorists and threats to democracy or what not (and yes, Trump does the same thing by calling the Democrats commies).

In the end people will probably just vote on what side of the woke vs anti-woke or whether J6 trials are political they are on, some of the people answering they unapprove of Biden now because they find him too old or because of inflation will eventually come back around like they did in midterm especially when the media gives full court press about how scary the Republicans are.
Author:  Excel [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:06 pm ]
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Just like Obama and Bush in year 2-3, Biden has been pretty low profile and its affecting his poll numbers while his opponents acquire spotlight. This dynamic changes obviously during election year as will his poll numbers.

Would note - Republicans are bordering on setting his expectations too low. Biden himelf is as with it as he was in 2020, its obvious to any impartial viewer. The Biden of the State of the Union for example will be just fine on the campaign trail. He has indeed had a successful first term, all of this will catch up in poll numbers.
Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:04 pm ]
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Whelp, McCarthy did it despite not having the votes within his own party to open an inquiry into Biden. It’s not an impeachment and he won’t have the votes needed, but he did it anyway. Makes me start to believe the dumb conspiracy that he is sleeping with MTG because why else? They have already been investigating him with no evidence. But the GOP base no longer cares about evidence anymore and it is a ploy to try and make Biden appear corrupt despite no evidence.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:10 pm ]
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Evidence is a foreign language to Republicans. They only speak in Belief now.
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