International politics (China, Russia, UK, etc.)
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Algren
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He has brought up the idea of amending the constitution, saying that it could be changed so the rule is that nobody can be president for more than two consecutive terms. It's the sort of amendment that would seem palatable to his followers. Fortunately for everyone on the planet this cannot be changed by executive order.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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I think it is funny that the measure of how conservative you are is how much you suck Trump’s dick
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Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:27 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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These “peace”’talks are a disgrace. It is basically the US and Russia figuring out how they can work together to win the war for Russia.
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Shack
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I like this concept. I'd say it ended sometime in 2010s, but not as clear as WWI.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Sad how we had the longest sustained peace in human global history and now we are going to fuck it up
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DP07
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15349 Location: Everywhere
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: These “peace”’talks are a disgrace. It is basically the US and Russia figuring out how they can work together to win the war for Russia. These “peace” are idiotic nonsense that have no strategic significance whatsoever.
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DP07
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These “peace” talks are a desperate and hopeless effort for Donald Trump to try to be relevant.
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Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:51 pm |
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68150 Location: Seattle, WA
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The "peace talks" are purely an egotistical mission for Trump so that he can list things achieved in his second presidency with one of them being "Ended Ukraine War". Much like the Abraham Accords in his first term. Trump doesn't actually care about humans dying or even who wins, he solely wants to be able to say that he made the deal, he sorted out the mess, he was the hero, etc.
He is not a president for the people or the world, he is a president for himself, for his résumé and his legacy.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Sadly you are correct. The whole tariff fiasco last week or so was something he created and then made go away so he could “accomplish” something even though nothing of any significance actually changed
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Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:47 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Now Russia the US are making deals without Ukraine and still call them “peace” talks. It amazes me how educated people can be manipulated by clear fake propaganda to believe these are “peace” talks and not two nations deciding how they will go about the war. It would be like if the Us and Germany met for “peace” talks during the middle of the First World War without the other allies input or even being present at the table. The war will still continue after these “talks” just the US might switch sides if Ukraine or Europe continues to defend itself
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Shack
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The Russia Ukraine war has used so much propaganda on both sides, but personally it always made most sense to me that Ukraine was taking multiple times more casualties compared to Russia and making up for it with making everyone available for conscription, leading to mostly stalemate though slowly losing territory. There is not much way this ends well for them if they keep fighting over then more people dying and ending up losing the same territory or more.
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DP07
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I wouldn’t even consider any opinion I’ve heard on the topic as good enough to deserve to pass first grade as far as I’m concerned.
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Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:02 pm |
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DP07
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Algren wrote: The "peace talks" are purely an egotistical mission for Trump so that he can list things achieved in his second presidency with one of them being "Ended Ukraine War". Much like the Abraham Accords in his first term. Trump doesn't actually care about humans dying or even who wins, he solely wants to be able to say that he made the deal, he sorted out the mess, he was the hero, etc.
He is not a president for the people or the world, he is a president for himself, for his résumé and his legacy. Well, I’ll say this: he certainly cares a lot more about the “people”, the “United States”, or democracy than I do. His ego also needs it: he needs the attention, ratings, and votes. If you offered me the presidency for free, I’d reject it. I always could have taken it if I really wanted to, but I reject it. Not only that, but I’d rather ultimately go to war. Not only because it’s right, and because compromise is completely unacceptable, unrealistic and untenable, but because it’s what “the people” deserve. Opinions that oppose have no future whatsoever.
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68150 Location: Seattle, WA
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I reckon what might happen is Trump "makes a deal" with Putin, this deal is outright rejected by Zelensky, the US - butthurt by Ukraine's rejection - then wipes its hands with the issue and individual European nations (UK, France, Poland) step in to bankroll Ukraine's continued fight against Russia.
The invasion/war continues into 2026.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Yeah, non US or Russian websites seem to pitch yesterday as doing little to end the war, but the Russians and Americans want to pin the war’s continuation on the West
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DP07
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And Trump, like Russia, calls Zelenskyy a dictator.
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DP07
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I don’t even have words for my contempt.
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DP07
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If you guys want to double down on stupidity, I won’t stop you. My responsibility is done, and you guys will be killed in the future if you fight the women of my species.
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Mr. R
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Some people here look really stupid in hindsight, to put it mildly. How close is it to the acceptance stage now? US and its 50 puppet allies couldn't do any real damage to Russian economy or society in 3 years, and they've tried hard. GDP growth is over 4%, production 4-5%, manufacturing 8-9%, budget deficit under 2% - 2 years in a row. And that's before our agent Trump came into play. All the foreign agents and traitors gone, culture, education and politics cleaned up, any pro-western sentiment is marginalized, many of those sad bastards now crying out in youtube that they have no money and can't return because of the legal implications. We're getting the new national elite from the front - uncorrupt, patriotic, conservative, pro-Russian, anti-immigrant. Import substitution and lack of competition has done wonders to the economy - a lot of companies I know doubled or tripled sales in 3 years. Make no mistake here - I've worked for major players in the biggest fmcg sectors and seen it all myself. Turned out all this time we had to feed Europe with our cheap resources and allowed them to enjoy huge margins in one of the biggest and most profitable consumer markets in the world. When those european bastards come crawling on all fours, the payback will be enourmous. We're gonna make them restore, rebuild and repay all the damages in Ukraine, Donbass and Crimea for the last 11 years, including death compensations for a million dead ukrainian soldiers, who didn't have to die.
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Mr. R
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: These “peace”’talks are a disgrace. It is basically the US and Russia figuring out how they can work together to win the war for Russia. What I think you don't understand is it's already done. You just see the media facade, but the real thing is already done. Ukraine didn't lose this war. USA and Europe did. Joe Biden did - he started the war with Russia and lost miserably, disgracefully, publicly, now they're gonna make the corrupt old fuck a scapegoat in history books. No one gives a damn about Europe. Europe has been our bitch for hundreds of years, coming for our vast resources and getting its ass kicked over and over again. But the big guys want to save face for the US before the world. US doesn't lose. And so that you commoners wouldn't feel bad, they're gonna open up about evil dictator zelensky, ukrainian nazism, biden's family corruption - for the sake of storytelling.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Mr R!!! I was wondering when you’d return. Glad to see you are still alive. A lot of your countrymen can’t say the same. Hope your economy survives after the wartime bubble is over
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Mr. R
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Mr R!!! I was wondering when you’d return. Glad to see you are still alive. A lot of your countrymen can’t say the same. Hope your economy survives after the wartime bubble is over You better hope ukrainians not blow up your country for losing their war, because they will blame you for their dead and crippled. You didn't help enough, you didn't give them enough money, you didn't give them 300-mile missiles.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Agreed
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Looks like the CDU is going to win in Germany defeating the AfD.
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DP07
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The Western/European/American sanctions regime is failing, as was inevitable. Russia is too big, its location near too many potential allies or trading partners, and it having access to too many trading partners, for the sanctions to ultimately be effective. The “West” is no longer able to siege it’s enemies, rather it is increasingly under siege by enemies (or surrounded by enemies).
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