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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Health Insurance
I'm signing up for some health insurance and was wondering if I am getting that good of a deal/coverage. Any advice/experience would be helpful:
I'm leaning towards going with GroupHealth and here are some of the basics:
$5k annual deductible. 50% coinsurance. $30 copay for office visits.
No dental, prescriptions, or vision.
This comes out to $53 per month. I can't really afford much more than that. Anybody with any thoughts on this?
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:39 pm |
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Jeff
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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Re: Health Insurance
Don't know much about GroupHealth, but I'd question what benefit you get if they don't cover prescriptions. If you get sick and require antibiotics or other medications it can be very expensive (depending on whether or not you can get generics).
My plan is through Aetna. I also have a $5,000 deductible. Visits to my primary care doctor run me $40, specialists are $50 (some specialists are subject to deductible). It has a separate Rx deductible for "Brand" name drugs (in other words non-generics) but thus far I've not run in to that.
I pay $78 a month for my coverage but I have a 25% surcharge due to my diagnosis of asthma placing me in their second tier. Thus far I've used it for two prescriptions and one office visit so it has been good.
In the past I had Goldenrule (through United Healthcare), that ran me $103 a month but I only had a $1250 deductible (and again I was charged more due to my diagnosis of asthma).
I actually manage a medical office so I have a lot of experience with insurance companies and can point you in the right direction if you want, just let me know.
Oh and the prices I quoted above are individual rates, I don't get a group discount or medical benefits through my work unfortunately.
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:44 pm |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Re: Health Insurance
I will be getting an individual plan as well. I tried to go through my school, but they were asking for $100 per month and it was more comprehensive than what I was looking for. I have some money saved for medical emergencies, around $1,000, so I'm mostly interested in a catastrophic plan.
I've recently had my eyes examined and that's good for two years and teeth checked as well. Hopefully that can carry me through the two years I have left of college. If not, I can probably pay that out of pocket, barring a route canal or something horrid.
Other than kidney stones, which I have some Vicodin for, I rarely go to the doctor. However, the lack of a prescription plan was the biggest shortcoming of this policy.
Do you know how hard it is to get insurance if you drop it for a few years?
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:54 pm |
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Jeff
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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Re: Health Insurance
KidRock69x wrote: I will be getting an individual plan as well. I tried to go through my school, but they were asking for $100 per month and it was more comprehensive than what I was looking for. I have some money saved for medical emergencies, around $1,000, so I'm mostly interested in a catastrophic plan.
I've recently had my eyes examined and that's good for two years and teeth checked as well. Hopefully that can carry me through the two years I have left of college. If not, I can probably pay that out of pocket, barring a route canal or something horrid.
Other than kidney stones, which I have some Vicodin for, I rarely go to the doctor. However, the lack of a prescription plan was the biggest shortcoming of this policy.
Do you know how hard it is to get insurance if you drop it for a few years? Depends mostly on your medical history. I was off my parent's plan when I moved out (12/05) and didn't get a new policy until last year (2/07) and then dropped that for three months when I switched to Aetna. I didn't have any problems and like I said I've had a pretty extensive medical history (four surgeries etc., though most of that was when I was around 18 and younger). Catastrophic care shouldn't even run you $50 a month, if that is what you are looking for. I know BlueCross and Aetna offer medical emergency/hospital policies only. If you get the occasional cold/runny nose and don't want to pay an arm and a leg for a regular doctor, you can always go to like CVS/Walgreens/etc. and their "MinuteClinics" (or any variation therein), I had a good experience a few weeks ago when I had strep throat and didn't have a doctor in my network (after I switched insurance plans I didn't establish myself with a new provider...). Might try that.
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:00 pm |
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Jeff
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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Re: Health Insurance
Just checked Aetna and for someone my age (22) and in my area (Atlanta, Ga), you are looking at about $34 for a strictly catastrophic care policy. Obviously that may go up a bit due to your health history etc.
Oh, and the MinuteClinic I mentioned, charged me $69 for a visit and my antibiotics were free from Publix (they have certain generics that are free). I used my insurance policy so I only paid my copay of $40 and Aetna covered the rest.
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:04 pm |
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roo
invading your spaces
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:44 pm Posts: 6194
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Re: Health Insurance
GroupHealth just jacked my rates by 25% or $60 a month.
So I say don't go through them.
They are ass anyway.
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Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:33 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32491 Location: the last free city
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Re: Health Insurance
CEO of United healthcare insurance company got killed John Wick style!
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 39570
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Re: Health Insurance
I moved to politics in case people want to discuss this there.
The people cheering this on are going too far and hating the player instead of the game, the insurance companies can avoid the invisible hand because half the system is public, they don't lose customers to competitors for providing a poor service if they're paid through the government. The only thing worse than the government being in full control of things is a mix of government and private where the government's involvement ruins the whole incentive structures that leads to capitalism working. Healthcare is probably the one area where a full private system doesn't work either, so the least bad of the three options is probably just going full public.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11471 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Re: Health Insurance
It is a system that works in other countries
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Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:16 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32491 Location: the last free city
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Re: Health Insurance
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32491 Location: the last free city
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Re: Health Insurance
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: It is a system that works in other countries Shack lives in Canada, right?
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Shack
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Re: Health Insurance
I said at the end of my post public is best.
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Rev
Romosexual!
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Re: Health Insurance
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Shack
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Re: Health Insurance
He's one of these type of dudes?
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Shack
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Re: Health Insurance
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6285 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Re: Health Insurance
Imagine getting killed in cold blood and the world turns it into a meme and lionizes your killer lmao
But, he did kill someone and is obviously seriously disturbed so I understand why he needs to be locked up. But I do hope his fellow inmates treat him like a king.
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Shack
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Re: Health Insurance
Ryan Murphy do your thing
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Health Insurance
So he is being treated pretty well then?
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Shack
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Re: Health Insurance
I guess being dead doesn't help but the Madison school shooter story feels buried after a few days compared to Luigi and most people probably won't end up knowing her name despite how a female school shooter is pretty rare/interesting and also is above average looking (if we're allowed to say that about a teenager). It's obvious that the media responses to things is totally dependent on what narratives people want to push, a murderous feminist is a lot dicier material than healthcare CEO killer. Not a healthy environment overall.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: Health Insurance
The media responds to what gets eyeballs not drive narratives
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15055 Location: Everywhere
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Re: Health Insurance
The media has many motivations.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15055 Location: Everywhere
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Re: Health Insurance
Shack wrote: I guess being dead doesn't help but the Madison school shooter story feels buried after a few days compared to Luigi and most people probably won't end up knowing her name despite how a female school shooter is pretty rare/interesting and also is above average looking (if we're allowed to say that about a teenager). It's obvious that the media responses to things is totally dependent on what narratives people want to push, a murderous feminist is a lot dicier material than healthcare CEO killer. Not a healthy environment overall. Is there any evidence she was motivated by feminism? What I’ve seen links her to the Columbine shooting.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15055 Location: Everywhere
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Re: Health Insurance
Shack wrote: I guess being dead doesn't help but the Madison school shooter story feels buried after a few days compared to Luigi and most people probably won't end up knowing her name despite how a female school shooter is pretty rare/interesting and also is above average looking (if we're allowed to say that about a teenager). It's obvious that the media responses to things is totally dependent on what narratives people want to push, a murderous feminist is a lot dicier material than healthcare CEO killer. Not a healthy environment overall. Also, Luigi Mangione was supported by leftists, so, how is that (Madison, Wisconsin) an example of leftist bias? And no surprise, another double standard about feminism. Killing a CEO is a cry for attention, and it was intended as such. He wrote about it.
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stuffp
Keeping it Light
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Re: Health Insurance
Well the narrative is determined by multiple things, and in the case of the Madison shooter Vs the Healthcare CEO, indeed in one the shooter is already dead, so no justice to chase anymore. But clearly the victim in one shooting is way higher profile, and the manner of how it was done, then we'll just another school shooting, with only 2 victims. Also one is just in Wisconsin and the other happened in the biggest city in the world. So yeah, it's obvious which is the bigger story to me. Having said that, it's always good to keep a critical eye on news reporting.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Re: Health Insurance
He call United Healthcare’s conference a “windfall” that would make the point “self-evident”.
He said it was “elementary social engineering”. So, that’s your hero. Imagine that for your superhero movie.
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