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Malcolm
Waitress in LA
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:47 am Posts: 25
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
The amount of places/people (group texts, non-political Meetup groups, other movie/TV forums, etc.) going through some kind of virtue signaling purification process since Trump won is kind of hilarious, but also rather pathetic. Many seem to like getting on their high horse to make declarations about what perspectives are allowed to be discussed (for mental health reasons, of course) while making it clear that anyone who doesn't support their particular views is a bigot/troll whose opinions will be deleted. How brave!
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 39309
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Fair analysis though I think Palestine and Harris herself being the weakest Democrat candidate since the 80s are huge factors.
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Alex Y.
Top Poster
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:47 pm Posts: 5781
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
I think a lot of left-leaning crypto and stock/401k investors are questioning their core political beliefs right now. Do woke values really matter more than making money?
The left hate Trump voters for woke reasons, while investors loathe anti-Trump voters for hurting their wallets.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11430 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
I made more money under Biden than Trump on my investments. Trump tanked the economy in 2020 and will probably tank the economy again with his trade wars and high level of deportations during a time of record low unemployment. Investors will be bullish on the market for the next few months on the promise of continued tax cuts, but once the market adjusts there will be hard times ahead of us all. The crypto investors are not smart investors as they are often taken advantage of much like penny stock investors in the 1990s. The young get rich quick make voter will soon be staring at massive losses and a stock market crash within the next couple years after a bubble burst due to red hot market on empty promises much like the late 90s or late 1920s.
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20892 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Trump tanked the economy in 2020? Wasn’t there a global pandemic and a forced shutdown of the economy?
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:02 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Yes. It was poorly handled by multiple countries across the globe. It was a point in time where America’s standing as a world leader was a point of failure. In past pandemics where we took action before things got out of hand we curtailed it from getting out of hand. Trump instead tried to sweep it under the rug to pretend everything was great going into his election year much like he pushed for the bill this year that addressed immigration so that he could point out how everything was bad to run in that. Trump is all image on no substance, and in an era where people get their information from bite sized tik tok memes, he is popular with the bite sized arguments
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20892 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Yes. It was poorly handled by multiple countries across the globe. It was a point in time where America’s standing as a world leader was a point of failure. In past pandemics where we took action before things got out of hand we curtailed it from getting out of hand. Trump instead tried to sweep it under the rug to pretend everything was great going into his election year much like he pushed for the bill this year that addressed immigration so that he could point out how everything was bad to run in that. Trump is all image on no substance, and in an era where people get their information from bite sized tik tok memes, he is popular with the bite sized arguments There was no country on earth, no matter how early they shutdown, that didn't have their economy crusehd by the pandemic.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 67838
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Trump instead tried to sweep it under the rug to pretend everything was great That's what a dictator does. Trump, while not a dictator, does have dictator tendencies. And I believe the only reason he isn't one is because of the system within which he governs. The people have had too much power for too long, so they would not suddenly succumb to his cult of personality dreams.
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:24 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11430 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
zwackerm wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Yes. It was poorly handled by multiple countries across the globe. It was a point in time where America’s standing as a world leader was a point of failure. In past pandemics where we took action before things got out of hand we curtailed it from getting out of hand. Trump instead tried to sweep it under the rug to pretend everything was great going into his election year much like he pushed for the bill this year that addressed immigration so that he could point out how everything was bad to run in that. Trump is all image on no substance, and in an era where people get their information from bite sized tik tok memes, he is popular with the bite sized arguments There was no country on earth, no matter how early they shutdown, that didn't have their economy crusehd by the pandemic. I’ll be honest, the shutdowns were over done. But the lack of foresight into the virus because Trump shut down the Obama division that looked into foreign viruses solely because it was something Obama did handicapped our handling of things
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 39309
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Trump let the states decide on covid restrictions and he was into the vax more than a lot of his voters.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
I actually think Trump’s greatest accomplishment was Warp Speed and he should get credit for that
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 39309
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Rubio is a bit neocon for Secretary of State but I think he wanted a Latin guy for the deporting
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 39309
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
The Bidens hating Harris more than Trump worked out pretty well for a peaceful post election
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Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:22 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
It is refreshing. But it highlights how shittty and shameful Trump was four years ago more than anything and how big of a man Biden is
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32450 Location: the last free city
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: It is refreshing. But it highlights how shittty and shameful Trump was four years ago more than anything and how big of a man Biden is Yup!
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Trump’s first pick that has me seriously worried is Matt Gaetz as attorney general. One he is young. Two he is a pedophile. Three he is a criminal. Four he has shown he is all for fake kangaroo trials as he pushed for the fake Biden impeachment. Five he was big on the January 6th illegal election scheme.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22131 Location: Places
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Collins already comes out against Gaetz, it is already beginning.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11430 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
You would need two more and I am not sure who would commit to that
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20892 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Gaetz is a clown
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Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:07 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20892 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Can someone explain to me how Mike Garcia and likely Michelle Steel lose their house races when they comfortably win in 2022 and 2024 was nationwide and in California a good year otherworldly for Republicans? Makes no sense.
At least the New York Republicans being ousted makes some sense since Trump wouldn’t have pulled them up the ballot as much as Zeldin.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
One incumbents are unpopular right now
Two shifting demographics
Three Trump is popular with the low info voter that turns out for the presidential elections but not the midterms. These same voters aren’t GOP baseline voters.
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Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:32 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20892 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Weren’t Republicans ousted from these seats in 2018 and won them back in 2020, a year less favorable to Republicans? Just bizarre
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Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:50 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Trump is more popular now than he was in 2020. Trump runs well as an anti-establishment figure and it’s hard for him to run on a message of everything is terrible, vote for me to fix it message when he is the president
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Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:10 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32450 Location: the last free city
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
landslide?
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Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:55 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20892 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Re: 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown)
Yeah well California is almost done so he will still win the popular vote by over 2 million
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