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 2024 election - Trump vs Harris (the final countdown) 

Is Biden vs Trump 2 really going to happen?
Yes, it is inevitable 54%  54%  [ 7 ]
No - A rematch just doesn’t feel right! Something has to give 46%  46%  [ 6 ]
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I always fall for the most left wing women.

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At this point I'll be disappointed if Trump doesn't win based on the early voting, but as I believe the most important part of the current moment is the cultural/psychological battle against the woke or commies (if there's a difference), I could talk myself into a scenario where conservatives being on the bottom for another four years actually turns more people against them than getting re-energized hating Trump.

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Shack wrote:
At this point I'll be disappointed if Trump doesn't win based on the early voting, but as I believe the most important part of the current moment is the cultural/psychological battle against the woke or commies (if there's a difference), I could talk myself into a scenario where conservatives being on the bottom for another four years actually turns more people against them than getting re-energized hating Trump.


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Not if you know the nuance.


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In the last 14 days, DT has fawned over Arnold Palmer's huge cock, pretended to work a shift at McDonalds, driven a garbage truck and given a speech while in uniform, and now has pretended to give a blowjob to a microphone.

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I can’t imagine how a married couple could be ideologically different they vote for different candidates AND your marriage is healthy. Your values should be aligned so you always vote for the same person IMO


Zack I love you bud but what? Many many MANY couples have the same values and translate them to different candidates. Mutual respect is essential in any successful relationship.

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Ann Selzer’s final Iowa poll is:

Harris: 47
Trump: 44

This is an actual polling earthquake lol


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Yes the tune is starting to shift towards trying to dispute the election before it even happens.Bannon comes out of jail and immediately starts justifying why the Trump orbit is justified in challenging the election.

Same playbook as 2020 :roll: same outcome will happen

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Ann Selzer’s final Iowa poll is:

Harris: 47
Trump: 44

This is an actual polling earthquake lol


A prediction back in September :whaa:

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This poll is such an outlier it can be disregarded ImO. This is like all of a sudden getting a poll that says Trump is up 6 in Colorado or Virginia


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This poll is such an outlier it can be disregarded ImO. This is like all of a sudden getting a poll that says Trump is up 6 in Colorado or Virginia


I don’t think Kamala is going to win Iowa but doubt Queen Ann at your peril! There’s a reason she has the reputation she does:



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Libs wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
This poll is such an outlier it can be disregarded ImO. This is like all of a sudden getting a poll that says Trump is up 6 in Colorado or Virginia


I don’t think Kamala is going to win Iowa but doubt Queen Ann at your peril! There’s a reason she has the reputation she does:



What could she have possibly picked up on that Emerson missed by 14 percent


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Women won’t let that orange man beat another woman ever again!!!


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I watched a video explaining how a lot of pollsters weight their polls to try and find tipping point groups, and often times miss the demographic that plays the biggest factor in an election. In 2016 the hidden voting block was uneducated white workers turning from Obama to Trump. Based off of Iowa’s demos and Bulwark focus groups, this hidden group might be older white women, particularly rural white woman leaving Trump for Harris.

Once again, it comes down to two words: Party Switch.

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On the bright side if Harris wins hopefully Republicans can have their 2008 moment with a fresh candidate in 2028


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Ann is a GOAT at this so this is awful for Trump. Also when you factor in the disaster is weak Trump has had and woman turning out in huge huge numbers. Harris is looking good for Tuesday. Trump has done everything he needed in this last week to lose this election.


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I’m still nervous because their could be a hidden number of minority voters in places like Virginia coming out for Trump.

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I hope. Still think it will be very close but feeling the pills are more akin to 2022 than 2020 or 2016.

I just remember how disappointed I was that night and want to keep expectations low.


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She has a good track record so maybe her and Lichtman will get the last laugh but she needs an insane turnaround in registration party in early vote vs end result from 2020 just to break even in Iowa let alone gain 10 pts. Or she could just be a Trump is threat to democracy/abortion heavy lib.



Harris to beat the archetypal elder Biden with seniors by 30 points?

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President Hawk Tuah?


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There’s got to be a point where the Obama era style of Democrat campaigns gets tired. They made the real Kamala go on SNL to do a skit with the fake one? What, no way. A lineup of Diddy guestlist celebs endorsing, trying to make joy and vibes like a version of 08 change campaign.They’re desperately trying to recreate it because a) Obama has stuck around Washington trying to still have power the most of any president in modern history, most disappeared and went to a ranch or something, except for the running again Trump b) The current version of the Democrats are worse leaving them like a nostalgia music act that still has a lot of fans from the hit years.

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Kamala is not going to win Iowa, but perhaps the most noteworthy aspect of the poll Becomes clear when one remembers there was a very recent pole showing Trump only up three in Ohio and only up 5 in Kansas. We hav Heard a lot about Harris supposedly making gains with white voters, particularly the educated or senior. There are a lot of older or educated white people in all of those states.

With Iowa specifically, they have a strict six week abortion band in place statewide that is extremely Unpopular, and Tim Walz is supposedly someone viewed very favorably within Iowa itself

Has been noted, she’s not going to win the state, but it’s apparently running much closer than normal with these demographics that make up much of the Midwest, you know her campaign is praying that dynamic into the rust belt as well

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There’s got to be a point where the Obama era style of Democrat campaigns gets tired. They made the real Kamala go on SNL to do a skit with the fake one? What, no way. A lineup of Diddy guestlist celebs endorsing, trying to make joy and vibes like a version of 08 change campaign.They’re desperately trying to recreate it because a) Obama has stuck around Washington trying to still have power the most of any president in modern history, most disappeared and went to a ranch or something, except for the running again Trump b) The current version of the Democrats are worse leaving them like a nostalgia music act that still has a lot of fans from the hit years.


Dude, you’re a Trump suppprter. You have no room to talk about a political campaign being old, tired, and predictable.


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Very Kamala-friendly polls in this morning from NYT. So Harris has received good-to-great final polling news from NYT, Marist, and Selzer.

I don't want to jinx it so I will not be commenting on the direction of momentum.

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