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Biden has actually had a very successful four years, but he doesn’t do anything too radical to get noticed despite being painted as a super far lefty

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Biden would be no worse than a mid president (improvement over Bush and Obama) if he hadn't been one of the most divisive presidents in history when he talks and angrily yelling about the other side is MAGA terrorists and voting for the other party is a threat to democracy, blaming pandemic on unvaccinated, being part of the over the top milking of a political riot, etc. He could have tried to turn the temperature down but he (or probably more accurately the political strategists) correctly realized that making progressives fear mongered and hating the opponent as much as possible more stands a better chance of getting him re-elected.

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I think as a moderate in this climate, it is hard to get the progressives to turn out any other way

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$364 million fine for him (and his companies) out of the civil fraud case in NY, plus a 3-year ban to do business in the state.

Nearly $450 million in total so far this year. And who knows how much he's paying in court fees.

Guess it makes sense he's trying to take control of the RNC now so he can siphon all its funds away from the party to just his campaign.

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Yeah, if Trump does not win this presidential election, which is likely, he is going to sink the GOP, but they seemed to think they have no choice because of how about a third of their voters will only support Trump.

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The Supreme Court agreed to delay the January 6th case. They obviously can’t rule in favor of Trump, but much like Canon down in Florida they can try to delay the cases enough so that maybe Trump can make them all go away.

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The whole treatment of Trump in NY from the initial ruling being ridiculous (saying Mar a Lago is only worth 18 million instead of hundreds of millions, that there were no victims with the banks defending Trump) and then setting a bond so unprecedented high that it makes it impossible to get a loan for and that he has to pay first to appeal, is so obviously BS and political. If Trump was the criminal fascist antichrist people think he is his opponents wouldn't have to use these tactics to take him down.

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I dunno man, it seems pretty obvious he committed fraud.

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So as I understand it the judge basically acted like its value is based on what it makes as a business, as Trump agreed to treat it as a landmark instead of making major changes to it and it has to stay a private club instead of just a residence. It makes like 20 million a year, so therefore it's only worth 20-30 or something.

That seems ridiculous logic. A rich person could choose to make it their private residence in the same way Trump did, plus part of the point of buying a massive/unique/famous mansion like MAL would be the the ego play that they can, and it proves they're better than the other rich people. Like paying for a Picasso painting or an overpriced yacht. Plus there are conservative billionaires out there. I quickly found mansions in Florida listed for for 200-300 million that are 1/8th the size of Mar a Lago and don't have its notoriety... I'd think Mar a Lago would have more demand to buy than those.

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It is more about zoning and using zoning fraudulently. I am starting to get into real estate now and it is just so obviously wrong what Trump has done.

Mar a Lago listed by Trump not the judge as commercial property and thus valued at such so as to avoid heavier property taxes, but then claims the property as residential in order to fraudulently inflate his own value so as to better obtained loans. This is all proven further true when he is unable to provide liquid cash to post a bond.

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The "little guy American" should be loving this, this is exactly the type of thing big fat cats usually get away with while the lower level developers get punished for. This is a fairly black and white case.

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The "little guy American" should be loving this, this is exactly the type of thing big fat cats usually get away with while the lower level developers get punished for. This is a fairly black and white case.
Nah bro, Trump ain't a big fat cat, he's one of us and is being victimized by the system because they don't want him to save America.


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The "little guy American" should be loving this, this is exactly the type of thing big fat cats usually get away with while the lower level developers get punished for. This is a fairly black and white case.
Nah bro, Trump ain't a big fat cat, he's one of us and is being victimized by the system because they don't want him to save America.


It’s sad that this Stephen Colbert level of satire doesn’t work anymore in the current age where people actually think this dumb shit

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For those of us who think this is the normalization of the law being weaponized against political/ideological opponents, it's worst for the little guy because they can't afford the lawyers Trump or Musk can if the government comes after them cause they don't like their views.

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For those of us who think this is the normalization of the law being weaponized against political/ideological opponents, it's worst for the little guy because they can't afford the lawyers Trump or Musk can if the government comes after them cause they don't like their views.


Yet that is not happening literally anywhere. That is what these guys want you to think so that they you will root for them to get away with their crimes.

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Here is a good summary from Jon Stewart:

https://youtu.be/EDMinX6t1Zk?si=PKtWPbGwsV0dK19a

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Vivek nailed it in a video he put out today, this case is claiming that it's illegal that Trump didn't call it a campaign finance to pay off Stormy, but if he had used campaign money, then they would just claim that was illegal. Also campaign finance stuff is supposed not be a felony. Overall this case is a joke that probably helps Trump because it cannot be more obvious Democrats have overreached to try to get road runner Trump and if they're successful putting him in jail or banning him from future elections it would be the same reason as if Brazil successfully arrests Bolsonaro (already banned from running) because the left wing government wanted to get rid of future threat.

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Trump is hardly a future threat and DeSantis is far more stoked in the new Republican order than Trump and his far from being prosecuted. Trump’s a fucking criminal and has been skirting the law for decades. Everyone saw him as super scummy before politics, but now you put a big fat R before his name and he can hide behind claiming political prosecution to trick people into thinking the criminal shit he is doing is somehow not criminal.

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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
Excel wrote:
The "little guy American" should be loving this, this is exactly the type of thing big fat cats usually get away with while the lower level developers get punished for. This is a fairly black and white case.
Nah bro, Trump ain't a big fat cat, he's one of us and is being victimized by the system because they don't want him to save America.


So long as they can maintain the narrative, they will both try to attack each other for being anti many of the same political talking points they both believe in. For example, Trump will threaten to be a dictator to “protect democracy”, and his opponents will then compare him to all their enemies and label him the opposite. They will then criticize him for reasons that don’t actually motivate him, so he feels no responsibility not to play into their game as “devil’s advocate”.


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Trump is hardly a future threat and DeSantis is far more stoked in the new Republican order than Trump and his far from being prosecuted. Trump’s a fucking criminal and has been skirting the law for decades. Everyone saw him as super scummy before politics, but now you put a big fat R before his name and he can hide behind claiming political prosecution to trick people into thinking the criminal shit he is doing is somehow not criminal.


Without politics though he wouldn’t have the same scrutiny; that’s obvious. So, it should be clear that it’s easy to avoid accountability whether by manipulating the application of your law, the legislation of your law, or by using such corruption for the self interest of the system or state itself, so as to essentially operate through bribery whether that bribery is technically illegal but practically tolerated, legal even if controversial, or even openly advocated, promoted, publicized or commended while ignoring responsibility, perhaps even as a solution to the very problems it is causing or contributing to.


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