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 The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back 
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Trump wanted to ban China travel because of COVID and that alone. Its the truth!


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Support of Hamas is the most obvious example of how American democrats are on the wrong side of history OMG.

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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
Alex Y. wrote:
From his inauguration to May 24 2021, Biden has killed 180,584 Americans with Covid-19 under his watch, and this is with vaccines available.

By comparison, under Trump, Covid death tolls only exceeded 100,000 from May 28, 2020 https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020 ... -toll.html and we know that Covid was in the US already by January 2020, if not earlier.
This is like blaming the firefighters for 9/11.


His post is satire referencing how democrats kept saying “Trump has the blood of 400k Americans on his hands! It’s all his fault they died!”

Even though Trump was the first person to recognize the coronavirus as a threat to America despite the WHO covering up for the CCP with obvious lies like “it doesn’t spread person to person” and “it’s less deadly than the flu”. He tried to ban Travel from China in January and was denounced by all prominent media outlets as racist and xenophobic. Subsequently criticizing the democrats for blowing the whole thing out of proportion is not the same thing as claiming it’s a “hoax”.


I think Flava genuinely thinks Trump=Bin Laden and Biden=firefighters when it comes to Covid. If only Trump had also agreed to be CCP’s puppet and not antagonize them, then anti-life Trump wouldn’t have forced China’s hand to release this virus from their Wuhan lab,


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No, Trump was the plane.

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Support of Hamas is the most obvious example of how American democrats are on the wrong side of history OMG.
Does anyone really support Hamas though? I know there’s a big “brown = good, white = bad” motif that is fueling liberal support of Palestine, but surely everyone recognizes that Hamas are a bunch of cunts too? Just like Netanyahu, they need this conflict to hold onto their power.

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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
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Support of Hamas is the most obvious example of how American democrats are on the wrong side of history OMG.
Does anyone really support Hamas though? I know there’s a big “brown = good, white = bad” motif that is fueling liberal support of Palestine, but surely everyone recognizes that Hamas are a bunch of cunts too? Just like Netanyahu, they need this conflict to hold onto their power.


It is Israel versus Hamas. There is no one on the planet who is intentionally murdering Palestinian civilians unlike what the Tlaibs, Omar’s and Cortezs would have you believe.

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zwackerm wrote:
Support of Hamas is the most obvious example of how American democrats are on the wrong side of history OMG.
Does anyone really support Hamas though? I know there’s a big “brown = good, white = bad” motif that is fueling liberal support of Palestine, but surely everyone recognizes that Hamas are a bunch of cunts too? Just like Netanyahu, they need this conflict to hold onto their power.


It is Israel versus Hamas. There is no one on the planet who is intentionally murdering Palestinian civilians unlike what the Tlaibs, Omar’s and Cortezs would have you believe.

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So after all the hub bub about the Georgie senate runoff, the Pubs get the Senate back anyways via Manchin switching parties. So the way to achieve bipartisanship is to let the minority party have its way until they are able to get enough seats to start passing their own extremely partisan legislature again? The way to heal from the January 6th attempted coup is to let those people have whatever they want? When the Pubs rushed Barrett into the supreme court nine days before an election after claiming nine months was too soon? Where was the fucking bipartisanship there? Fair and equal elections = only one side decided who gets to vote apparently.

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Manchin didn’t switch parties as far as I can find online.

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The Republicans have to deal with Mitt Romney, you can have 1 or 2 DINOs (Democrats in name only)

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The Republicans have to deal with Mitt Romney, you can have 1 or 2 DINOs (Democrats in name only)


Don’t forget Collins and Murkowski!

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The Republicans have to deal with Mitt Romney, you can have 1 or 2 DINOs (Democrats in name only)
Romney voted for Barrett. He doesn't bow to Trump, but he's still just as much of a slimy hypocrite as the rest of them.

And if Manchin is gonna only vote on things that Pubs approve of (which is nothing during a Democratic presidency), then he's a Republican.

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From a foreign perspective, the filibuster seems like a very idiotic thing. The senate is already a minority-favoring chamber by design, and requiring 60 votes for almost any law to pass only makes it worse. To a certain extent we have a similar problem in the EU where many issues require unanimous approval to pass, and it has had similarly negative consequences : powerless institutions incapable of moving forward with any type of meaningful reform causing frustration among the population and a rise of demagogues.


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As soon as Republicans retake the senate the Democrats will love the filibuster.

Without the filibuster the country’s laws would swing wildly back and forth. Even if Democrats win every presidential election forever, Republicans remain powerful enough to take back congress every four years.

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What will likely happen in the future is Republicans as they exist today will barely be a thing and the mainstream “Republicans” will just be a less far left version of the current democrat party.

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As soon as Republicans retake the senate the Democrats will love the filibuster.

Without the filibuster the country’s laws would swing wildly back and forth. Even if Democrats win every presidential election forever, Republicans remain powerful enough to take back congress every four years.


But, isn't having laws changing kind of the point of a democracy ? It always struck me as unusual how many Americans seem to like their Congress being unable to do anything.


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Looking more and more likely the Democrats, with control of both chambers of Congress and the Presidency, is going to let a lot of people down (again) that worked tirelessly to them back in power. They're really bad at legislating...

It is largely coming down to not being able to get Manchin and Sinema on board, but regardless of them, the leadership needs to twist some arms and get them on board. If there's real concern of them changing parties if the leadership retaliates, it's an extraordinarily silly argument as neither are going to do that, and just allows one or two people to control the will of the voters that gave them the majority. The GOP excels at getting their members on board for the key votes, and they arguably (in recent sessions) have more "swing" members in the Senate.

It says a lot about the party as a whole when they're not able to unite and get things done when voters decide to give them the power. It also doesn't help when someone like Gillibrand doesn't show up to vote for the Paycheck Fairness Act after being a strong proponent for it and tweeting about it 24 hours prior... Yes, it needed 60 votes and wasn't going to move forward with her vote, but it's just a really, really bad look for her and the party, displaying a lack of interest and a willingness to just let things go.

Unless this is a political play, bringing these measures to the floor knowing they'll fail, in order to get Manchin and Sinema to "change their minds" on the filibuster down the road as a response to the GOP not working with them. This *could* be a legitimate strategy, but if it's not, Democrats are going to respond harshly (again) by staying home in 2022/2024 and giving the GOP the power again.

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The system wasn't designed for this big of a chasm between parties, the Democrat and Republican parties are enemies at this point and it's hard to pass bills with your enemy.

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Mitch McConnell said that if the Pubs win back the senate in 2022 he will block any supreme court judge Biden nominates in 2023 and 2024. Cause thats good for our democracy, right?

But also he has to say this, to get people out a vote for him to make that happen. But like always these politicians could just as easy flip again once (re-)elected.

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Democrats should just win the Senate then and they won't have to deal with Mitch moving the goalposts for election year appointments

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No reason Breyer can’t retire now and then The Democrats can confirm a lefty judge.

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That's absurd. If the Republicans lose the presidency but keep the senate in 2024, at this rate he'll keep the seat open until 2028? If Biden proposes a moderate, which he most likely would under such circumstances, there's no reason for a vote not to take place.

To think RBH was confirmed 96-3 and Scalia 98-0.


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That's absurd. If the Republicans lose the presidency but keep the senate in 2024, at this rate he'll keep the seat open until 2028? If Biden proposes a moderate, which he most likely would under such circumstances, there's no reason for a vote not to take place.

To think RBH was confirmed 96-3 and Scalia 98-0.


I think Mitch just said he wouldn't confirm during 2024 due to election year, which is hypocritical, but I doubt Democrats would do any differently

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Pubs are slamming Biden for meeting with Putin with no irony whatsoever.

At least Manchin should be happy that Biden is making an effort to work with Republican leadership.

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Yet to talk to anyone who thinks the NZ trans power lifter being allowed to win the female Olympic category is fair. Republican, Democrat, doesn’t matter. Only ones in support of it are the far left ideologues using it as a tool to further confuse the populace on gender and sex.

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