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Author:  zwackerm [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:54 am ]
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The Flash 104m
Elemental 30m

Transformers-63%
Spider Verse -45%

Author:  Keyser Söze [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:12 pm ]
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Final week of surge for Transformers makes me hopeful for Flash. Past 3 weeks have 1 big release every week and so releases get their peak window only during final week.

Elemental is still a big question mark. Only time will tell if it can also pull in a good OW.

For now I agree with Flash/Elemental numbers from Zwackerm.

Author:  O [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:31 pm ]
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Elemental's best chance is if it pulls a Ratatouille. Originally looks doomed but ends up being enjoying to general audiences. At this point, a $35M+ OW for it I'd consider a win given how competitive the market will be.

Author:  Algren [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:53 pm ]
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The Flash is doing $135m ;)

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:05 pm ]
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Rihht now I'm expecting The Flash to open like Justice League but have decent legs.

The Flash - 89
Eleemental - 30

Author:  Algren [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:06 pm ]
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Rise of the Beasts is the taster for audiences of summer blockbusters, and The Flash is their main. It's going to blow up next Friday

Author:  Jonathan [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:47 pm ]
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publicenemy#1 wrote:
Rihht now I'm expecting The Flash to open like Justice League but have decent legs.

The Flash - 89
Eleemental - 30


Funny you make the Justice League comparison since that also had a family film open up against it to $30M, and also a Marvel sequel with strong WOM in its third weekend against those openers. Although $30M for Elemental would be much rougher than the $30M for Wonder was.

Author:  Barrabás [ Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:36 pm ]
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The Flash - $86M

Elemental - $28M

Author:  zwackerm [ Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:37 pm ]
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Keyser Söze wrote:
Final week of surge for Transformers makes me hopeful for Flash. Past 3 weeks have 1 big release every week and so releases get their peak window only during final week.

Elemental is still a big question mark. Only time will tell if it can also pull in a good OW.

For now I agree with Flash/Elemental numbers from Zwackerm.


Any updates on Flash presales?

Author:  Shack [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:49 am ]
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Elemental's RT (79%) could be worse

Author:  Jonathan [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:25 pm ]
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Shack wrote:
Elemental's RT (79%) could be worse


Disney really messed up by premiering it and Indy 5 at Cannes instead of letting less serious critics see it first the way they usually do. Feel like if it can reach Onward's opening that would be a win at this point - it could probably leg out to a final total above Lightyear, at least.

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:55 pm ]
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I'm kinda sensing Flash disappoints and goes below 70m... shame cause its a solid movie but there's just a lot going against it

Author:  Rev [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:30 pm ]
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The Flash
90m 3-day
105m 4-day

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:47 pm ]
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Jonathan wrote:
Shack wrote:
Elemental's RT (79%) could be worse


Disney really messed up by premiering it and Indy 5 at Cannes instead of letting less serious critics see it first the way they usually do. Feel like if it can reach Onward's opening that would be a win at this point - it could probably leg out to a final total above Lightyear, at least.
Yeah it seems like the Cannes crowd was just dying to shit on Disney were these movies any less than a masterpiece. I bet both are entertaining enough, just a far cry from the franchise's peaks.

Author:  Magic Mike [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:46 pm ]
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FYI The Blackening is out this weekend too.

Author:  Keyser Söze [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:38 pm ]
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Flash looks terrible. Looking in 60-70m range. I think Miller factor neutered this. Elemental looks like 25-35m depending on how good the walkups are.

Author:  Rev [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:52 pm ]
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Rev wrote:
The Flash
90m 3-day
105m 4-day


Elemental 50m/60m
The Blackening 15m/20m

Author:  Corpse [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:59 pm ]
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Flash disappointing would be the final conclusion that the (current) DCEU has indeed failed, and a reboot was definitely needed. The Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 are considered post-reset films, but being released so closely to the end of the DCEU will probably make audiences link them to it and possibly be reluctant to see them too. Maybe they should have been moved to 2024 to give them some breathing room.

I don't really know what a good number for a Flash film would have been though; he's no Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman, so over $100 million may have always been a reach.

I question if Keaton is really helping too. I don't get this sense that he's really a draw, as nothing with him in the last 10-15years screams "Keaton helped it." Do people under 25 really know who he is? It's been over 30 years since he was Batman. I mean, it's awesome he's reprised the role here. The impact on the box office feels quite minimal though, only exciting a small group of older diehard fans.

Author:  zwackerm [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:17 pm ]
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I think the main reason people expected big numbers after the trailer was because of Batman. But looks like it will do about what we all thought after the Miller allegations last year.

Author:  Excel [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:39 pm ]
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Flash WOM looks like it is about to be excellent, expecting above average multipliers all around

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:48 pm ]
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Even with good WoM it'll probably total below Quantumania if it opens around 70m.

Author:  Barrabás [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:47 pm ]
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Lol at Warner making sure the critical consensus summary on Rotten Tomatoes is glowing despite the middling actual score.

Author:  neo_wolf [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:01 pm ]
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I think The flash will do Black Adam numbers.
I bet WB and everyone involved with the film will disconnect themselves from Miller after the film dissapoints, they just dont want to do it before the film opens.

Author:  Keyser Söze [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:33 pm ]
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Barrabás wrote:
Lol at Warner making sure the critical consensus summary on Rotten Tomatoes is glowing despite the middling actual score.


How on earth can Warner do it. They dont own RT. Its owned by fandango aka Universal.

Author:  zwackerm [ Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:19 pm ]
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I think Flash has gotta do at least a little better than Blavk Adam. Sub 70m would be SO bad.

Elemental’s reviews are good enough now that I could see mid to high 30s

Thinking for Holdovers
Spider-Verse 30m
Transformers 27m
Little Mermaid 15m

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