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From the Monday #, TLM made $44,947 for $297,895,447 total. $2.1M away. If it somehow has dailies close to Monday could be at $298.03M by Thursday. Slow crawl but let's see if it manages a Labor Day miracle if it can hold on to some theaters.


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Not gonna happen, considering the original only adjusts to about 175, it’s one of the few Disney reboots to increase the fan base. Would have been interesting to see how Mulan would have done

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Little Mermaid is the best selling non Pixar Disney animated release of all time, it’s theatrical gross is a small piece of the puzzle.


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Post Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB*
Any data to back that up?

Lion king alone without any princesses has made more on its DTV sequels than the little mermaid ever did (Including the remake.) Aladdin too by a small portion.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ted_States

The Little Mermaid 13.4m DVDs
The Lion King 11.9m DVDs

Dvd is where it really took off, it only sold about 1/3 the vhs of Aladdin and Lion King. Though it sold almost as many VHS as Batman 1989 despite grossing about 1/3 of it at the box office.


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Wowsa at The Land Before Time selling $1,000,000,000 of VHS.

Illumination should do an animated version of that movie. 13 direct to video sequels and a tv show with the original theatrical movie doing $85M. Feels like an entire generation grew up with those movies and the $$$ potential is big.


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zwackerm wrote:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_films_in_the_United_States

The Little Mermaid 13.4m DVDs
The Lion King 11.9m DVDs

Dvd is where it really took off, it only sold about 1/3 the vhs of Aladdin and Lion King. Though it sold almost as many VHS as Batman 1989 despite grossing about 1/3 of it at the box office.


So you’d be wrong, ps Jungle Book made more money on DVD than Little Mermaid, and Beauty and the Beast beat it on BluRay and little mermaid isn’t even on the list, Lion king was rereleased during that time and Beat it too. Little mermaid did have impressive dvd sales, but nothing on the 123 punch of Beauty, Aladdin, and TLK, especially with awards. I’d put it in the 5-9 range where a lot of arguments can be made, especially against TJB, 101. And Wikipedia is iffy, You realize TLK2 sold over 15 million VHS when it came out in its 6 months.

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Welp. It pretty much lost all the theaters it got last week and for some reason Disney gave Elemental a big increase in count... lol ok. Welp that's annoying it won't hit $300m but oh well


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Disney I'm sure has a few more tricks up its sleeve so not counting it out yet. It's going to be a slow, slow crawl though.


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Well looks like Disney didn't care that much for $300M. Maybe they had to pay more back end participants at that threshold.

It's launched on Disney + and it's the second biggest global debut after Hocus Pocus 2 with 16M complete views.

It's a massive hit already and even with a cheaper ticket price its Disney+ debut is higher than its theatrical OW. Seems it's saved some face along with Elemental for Disney this year.

Won't be so lucky for Ant Man 3, IJ5, and Haunted Mansion.


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Makes sense that a lot of people just waited for D+. Think this could've done $350m+ if D+ never was a thing. I doubt sacrificing theatrical domination will ever seem like a financially good idea but *cough*


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You bring up a great point that made me think about the pre Disney + releases.

November 12, 2019 was the launch date of Disney + but Disney publicly announced it on November 8, 2018.

BATB's $504,481,165 and The Lion King's $543,638,043 were before Disney + and pre-pandemic.

Mufasa will be an interesting case study to follow. It's retention of TLK will be a good indicator for impact on theatrical grosses due to Disney+. Most of TLK fans will probably see Mufasa too though the lukewarm reception of the remake will have some type of impact as well.


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It may be doing well on Disney plus but unless it's driving a surplus of new subscribers, it's not making any more money for them. Still a financial failure. Especially now no one buys home video anymore because of streaming.

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Doesn't having the second biggest launch of a movie ever on Disney + help merchandise, parks, etc.? Also Disney has an ad supported stream now I thought so having that level of eyeballs means more $ from ads. I definitely think this is all a positive for TLM's turnaround story.


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This shows how dumb it was to hold movies like Turning Red from theatres, you can get the theatre gross and still have a good D+ release.

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Post Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB*
It also boggles my mind just how big Hocus Pocus would have been.

That had more viewers in its launch on Disney+. TLM made $298M domestic. I originally thought Hocus Pocus could have made a $150M domestic release if theatrical but seems as a cult classic (and popular Halloween annual movie people watch), could probably have done $200M+.

Hocus Pocus 3 will be a fascinating movie to watch. Can't imagine it won't start theatrical.


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Yeah if Hocus Pocus 2 opened in theaters it probably would've opened to 70m+.

Theatrical 90 day window, bluray/dvd release, and 6 months to Disney+ should've been the way. Disney's 2019 is craaaazy to look back at.


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A comparison to put everything in perspective:

Disney's #1 movie in 2023 (GOTG3) = $359.0M
Disney's #7 movie in 2019 (Aladdin) = $355.6M ($426.6M adjusted for inflation).

They could only go down from the peak they were at. The combo of Pixar + MCU + SW + Disney live actions + Disney animation was delivering some big hits.


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Yes, and now all Disney franchises are almost at a trough or at least in decline. Quite a difference a few years makes.

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So Disney decided to make the Lando TV series a movie.

Even if its good, makes me think this SW strategy is still utterly confusing


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If they actually go ahead with a Donald Glover Lando movie.... lol. It will make Solo look like a success. Especially because we know Disney can't control their budgets.

Maybe Donald Glover is just fishing for new roles and he put this out to generate some hype around his name.

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Well they don’t need any more Star Wars tv series.

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So Disney decided to make the Lando TV series a movie.

Even if its good, makes me think this SW strategy is still utterly confusing


What's so confusing? It's basically a movie spun-off from 2018's Solo: A Star Wars Story

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Anything that isn't an episode will probably tank.

Even an episode probably goes sub 1b right now.

Star Wars is too overexposed and only die hards care anymore.


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Anything that isn't an episode will probably tank.

Even an episode probably goes sub 1b right now.

Star Wars is too overexposed and only die hards care anymore.


I don't think it's overexposure per se.... Force Awakens and Rogue One did great one year apart. I think it's more how awful and insulting to the fans Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker were. Everything post Rogue One excluding the Mandalorian TV show has come across like bad fanfic. Say what you want about the prequel trilogy but it at least tried something radically different and it had excellent world-building.

The only way Star Wars comes back as a force is if George Lucas is involved (and very publicly so). They already wasted the original cast. Obi Wan horrible TV series killed Ewan return hype. The other prequel trilogy actors are hated/forgotten. No one cares about Rey to see her again. So the only card they have left to play is Lucas himself.

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