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O wrote:

lilmac wrote:

What's your top 10 list O?

I'll do 1990 - 2000 for now of impressive runs.

Ghost (1990) - A ghost banker pairs up with a psychic to save his lover. Ended at #3 of all time!
Home Alone (1990) - A Christmas movie still in the top 10 in June? #3 domestic of all time!
Dances With Wolves (1991) - Unbelievable run even with the Oscars, this could have flopped.
Forrest Gump (1994) - Love how it and TLK dominated the year.
Scream (1996) - Paved the way for a new era of horror runs. $100M+ from a $6.3M OW.
Titanic (1997) - No explanation on the BO. Though I also love its Billboard chart domination.
There's Something About Mary (1998) - Reaching #1 in week 8.
Sixth Sense (1999) - A great surprise that managed to upstage The Phantom Menace.
Blair Witch Project (1999) - Used virality in ways we'd never seen. $140M from a 5 figure budget.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000) - Even if it had the Oscar run, the #'s are spectacular.

7/10 of these had a budget <$23M (unadjusted). Only Titanic was over $60M+. Every movie in the top 20 now has a budget of $115M+ with 19/20 over $150M+. Jumanji (new one) and the Hunger Games movies are the only $400M+ grossers to have under $100M budgets. A different era!

Author:	Algren [ Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:42 am ]
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So lovely to see the Top 5 return to normality. All five are genuinely popular, crowd-pleasing, good movies, and they're all from separate franchises.

Author:	stuffp [ Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:16 pm ]
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Considering how Marvel films haven't excelled recently, I think it will be a while before one may even sniff the top 5 again. It will be really interesting to see what will be the next film to gross 700.

Author:	zwackerm [ Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:27 pm ]
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Avengers 5-6 will probably gross 500-600m but nowhere near 700m

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:49 pm ]
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Avatar and Black Panther could both hit $700M and I wouldn't be too surprised. As for 2023, I dunno if there is even a $500M grosser in there. The Flash probably had the best chance ... If they had chosen a different lead actor.

Author:	Rev [ Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:21 pm ]
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Algren wrote: So lovely to see the Top 5 return to normality. All five are genuinely popular, crowd-pleasing, good movies, and they're all from separate franchises. I still can’t believe TFA got that close to a BILLION! Unbelievable!

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Author:	lilmac [ Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:48 pm ]
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$700M is what $550M was when TDK got there. Seems more achievable. Wish there was a way to toggle the all-time domestic gross list by a given year ("what was the top 10 list in 1996" for example) In 2008, I believe TDK was top 2 all time.

Author:	Algren [ Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:10 am ]
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The total box office isn't up there with the likes of Avengers: Endgame or The Force Awakens, but those movies are very much 'high demand, high drop-off' where it's all about the opening weekend. While Top Gun: Maverick had a sizeable opening, I'd say its run is more in the all-timer camp with the likes of Titanic, Avatar, E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial, and Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace. The list of days over $1 million certainly suggests that. It's one of those once-a-decade word-of-mouth sensations that also happens to open well. And it's not done. This weekend looks to be a hair over $3 million, so without some type of expansion it looks like it will finish with around $715 million.

Author:	Algren [ Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:26 am ]
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Imagine the whole worldwide total of Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore and the whole worldwide total of Beast, then add $1 billion dollars. It still wouldn't be as much as Top Gun: Maverick makes.

Author:	stuffp [ Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:48 am ]
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Author:	O [ Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:36 pm ]
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TGM $1.463B worldwide according to BOG. Looks like $11M more from TGM domestic for $1.474B give or take re-releases. Needs just $26M more to get to $1.5B. Feel this milestone is doable as TGM still is doing $6M overseas and should be the last one TGM gets to. Top 25 adjusted looks like a stretch without a major re-release / awards run ($740M).

Author:	Algren [ Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:05 am ]
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Soon the second highest-grossing 2022 movie in North America will be $300 MILLION behind Maverick. That's a whole Twilight: Eclipse in between first and second place. Astonishing.

Author:	lilmac [ Sun Sep 25, 2022 2:01 am ]
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Crazy. Only other year I can remember with that much distance was Jurassic World ($652M) and TFA.

Author:	Algren [ Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:54 am ]
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It never crossed my mind before but I just looked it up and here's the list: 1. Spider-Man: No Way Home ... $580,250,185 ... Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021) 2. Titanic ... $350,097,649 ... Men in Black (1997) 3. Avatar ... $347,654,269 ... Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009) 4. Avengers: Endgame ... $314,734,957 ... The Lion King (2019) 5. Top Gun: Maverick ... $300,895,281 ... Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022) 6. Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens ... $284,391,600 ... Jurassic World (2015) 7. The Dark Knight ... $214,741,232 ... Iron Man (2008) 8. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial ... $181,997,037 ... Tootsie (1982) 9. Star Wars ... $180,526,429 ... Smokey and the Bandit (1977) 10. The Avengers ... $175,218,811 ... The Dark Knight Rises (2012) 11. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest ... $172,452,544 ... Night at the Museum (2006) 12. Return of the Jedi ... $144,160,128 ... Terms of Endearment (1983) 13. Jurassic Park ... $137,872,704 ... Mrs. Doubtfire (1993) 14. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace ... $137,582,003 ... The Sixth Sense (1999) 15. Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi ... $116,167,217 ... Beauty and the Beast (2016) 16. The Empire Strikes Back ... $106,107,525 ... 9 to 5 (1980)

Author:	Algren [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:33 pm ]
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It may change with actuals, but 20 weeks in the Top Ten.

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Author:	O [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:42 pm ]
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Mojo is missing Ponniyin Selvan 1, which made $900,000 but was listed on BOG's top 10. Hoping TGM gets that extra $25K to sneak by.

Author:	O [ Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:18 pm ]
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Looks like TGM managed to stay in the top 10 by sneaking past Terrifier 2 by $242. Haven't seen Ponniyin Selvan's actual gross yet but was listed at $900K on BOG. 20 weeks in the top 10. Has a chance at 21 weeks with just Halloween unless a limited release exceeds expectations. With 20 weekends in the top 10, TGM will have had the longest run since the 26 weekends of Forrest Gump and Titanic. TGM is also only the third movie to reach 19 weekends (post 1990) along with Forrest Gump/Titanic since 1990's Ghost (22), Home Alone (23) and Dances with Wolves (25). Source: Forbes

Author:	Algren [ Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:50 pm ]
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O wrote: Haven't seen Ponniyin Selvan's actual gross yet but was listed at $900K on BOG. That's incorrect. It dropped 93% with $260k. O wrote: Looks like TGM managed to stay in the top 10 by sneaking past Terrifier 2 by $242.

Author:	O [ Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:33 pm ]
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$20.1M to get to $1.5B. Should get say $4M more domestic. Needs $16.1M overseas to get there. Sooo close.

Author:	lilmac [ Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:56 pm ]
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I never pay attention to the OS/WW numbers but yea, $1.5B is a nice, neat clean number. You can do it TGM!

Author:	O [ Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:40 pm ]
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Will be interesting if it gets any type of re-release, campaign or bump from Veterans Day on Nov. 11th. 4 weeks away and opening day for BP but may be able to get something.

Author:	lilmac [ Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:02 pm ]
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Thought the ET like run at scale was a thing of the scale. Definitely one of the top 10 boxoffice runs since the VHS era. In no particular order: Titanic Avatar MBFGW TFA Endgame TGM Avengers Sixth Sense Spiderman (2002) Black Panther What's your top 10 list O?

Author:	Algren [ Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:58 pm ]
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The Numbers predicts it to be in the top ten again this weekend.

Author:	O [ Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:28 am ]
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lilmac wrote: What's your top 10 list O? I'll do 1990 - 2000 for now of impressive runs. Ghost (1990) - A ghost banker pairs up with a psychic to save his lover. Ended at #3 of all time! Home Alone (1990) - A Christmas movie still in the top 10 in June? #3 domestic of all time! Dances With Wolves (1991) - Unbelievable run even with the Oscars, this could have flopped. Forrest Gump (1994) - Love how it and TLK dominated the year. Scream (1996) - Paved the way for a new era of horror runs. $100M+ from a $6.3M OW. Titanic (1997) - No explanation on the BO. Though I also love its Billboard chart domination. There's Something About Mary (1998) - Reaching #1 in week 8. Sixth Sense (1999) - A great surprise that managed to upstage The Phantom Menace. Blair Witch Project (1999) - Used virality in ways we'd never seen. $140M from a 5 figure budget. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000) - Even if it had the Oscar run, the #'s are spectacular. 7/10 of these had a budget <$23M (unadjusted). Only Titanic was over $60M+. Every movie in the top 20 now has a budget of $115M+ with 19/20 over $150M+. Jumanji (new one) and the Hunger Games movies are the only $400M+ grossers to have under $100M budgets. A different era!

Author:	lilmac [ Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:30 pm ]
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Great list! I didn't realize Ghost was top 5 at the time. It came out before I started tracking boxoffices but I recall the hype (especially the pottery scene). Home Alone had another ET like run, yep. I did not see Forrest Gump coming. It really surprised me, and it showed that one summer could sustain multiple blockbusters. 1994 was probably the first summer where we saw that trend. BWP has to be Top 3 when it comes to multipliers. It had a great viral marketing campaign in the months prior O wrote: lilmac wrote: What's your top 10 list O? I'll do 1990 - 2000 for now of impressive runs. Ghost (1990) - A ghost banker pairs up with a psychic to save his lover. Ended at #3 of all time! Home Alone (1990) - A Christmas movie still in the top 10 in June? #3 domestic of all time! Dances With Wolves (1991) - Unbelievable run even with the Oscars, this could have flopped. Forrest Gump (1994) - Love how it and TLK dominated the year. Scream (1996) - Paved the way for a new era of horror runs. $100M+ from a $6.3M OW. Titanic (1997) - No explanation on the BO. Though I also love its Billboard chart domination. There's Something About Mary (1998) - Reaching #1 in week 8. Sixth Sense (1999) - A great surprise that managed to upstage The Phantom Menace. Blair Witch Project (1999) - Used virality in ways we'd never seen. $140M from a 5 figure budget. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000) - Even if it had the Oscar run, the #'s are spectacular. 7/10 of these had a budget <$23M (unadjusted). Only Titanic was over $60M+. Every movie in the top 20 now has a budget of $115M+ with 19/20 over $150M+. Jumanji (new one) and the Hunger Games movies are the only $400M+ grossers to have under $100M budgets. A different era!

Author:	lilmac [ Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:32 pm ]
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O wrote: lilmac wrote: What's your top 10 list O? 7/10 of these had a budget <$23M (unadjusted). Only Titanic was over $60M+. Every movie in the top 20 now has a budget of $115M+ with 19/20 over $150M+. Jumanji (new one) and the Hunger Games movies are the only $400M+ grossers to have under $100M budgets. A different era! If profits are lower from theatrical runs than they were 30 yrs ago, studios at least have the benefit of more ancillary funding streams (cable, tv, streaming)