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THE FLASH 2022: Miller, Batfleck, Keaton....and CAVILL!?
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Author:  Algren [ Wed May 24, 2023 3:35 pm ]
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I saw the trailer today at the cinema, and it just feels like this is going to be the hit of the summer. I also saw a bus billboard and it was lovely. Very simple but awesome imagery with a critic's quote at the top "one of the best superhero films of all-time".

Ezra won't be an issue internationally, and maybe a smidgen in the U.S. He basically won't matter.

Author:  Rev [ Wed May 24, 2023 6:00 pm ]
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the FINAL TRAILER LOOKS GREAT :D

Author:  zwackerm [ Wed May 24, 2023 9:42 pm ]
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Feeling about 135m OW, and decent legs for a High 300s total.

Author:  Algren [ Thu May 25, 2023 4:16 pm ]
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Does it beat BvS or not, that is the question.

Author:  Excel [ Thu May 25, 2023 5:05 pm ]
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Tracking says $75m ow. Thinking it'll get closer to $100m when all is said and done, but $135m seems like a stretch and would require a massive breakout.

Author:  O [ Thu May 25, 2023 5:10 pm ]
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Transformers, Flash and Elemental are walking into Spider verse webs...

Studios need to leave a message and moviegoers will call them back...

A likely story, but

Leave a message and moviegoers will eventually call you back...

and watch on a streamer.

Author:  Algren [ Thu May 25, 2023 6:09 pm ]
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Excel wrote:
Tracking says $75m ow. Thinking it'll get closer to $100m when all is said and done, but $135m seems like a stretch and would require a massive breakout.


I would be very disappointed with just $75 million. I think the bare minimum should be $100 million. I more had in mind that it would open in the $120-$150m range.

I suppose one could always use the argument that it's "only a Flash movie", and it's his first solo movie, and the DCEU is one big fail. I get all those points, and they're right from a logic standpoint, but this film feels different. Movies often aren't logical. The marketing is excellent and there is an excitement to it which is hard to measure much like when Batman v Superman came out, which is why I expect a larger opening but with mediocre/bad legs, just like Batman v Superman.

Author:  Rev [ Fri May 26, 2023 8:20 am ]
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Excel wrote:
Tracking says $75m ow. Thinking it'll get closer to $100m when all is said and done, but $135m seems like a stretch and would require a massive breakout.


WHAT THE FUCK!!!??????????? How did tracking go from 100m+ down to 75m :blink: :blink:

Author:  zwackerm [ Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:01 pm ]
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Reviews are only 72% 6.3/10 avg rating. Disappointing

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:35 pm ]
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Think it'll be well received with audiences but opening above $100m probably needed universal acclaim.

Author:  Keyser Söze [ Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:24 pm ]
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I have passes for early show tomorrow evening. I think reviews are good enough to make the trip. You can beat free showing :-)

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:46 pm ]
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I guess I'm seeing it too tomorrow lol they sure are doing tons of these screenings

Author:  Keyser Söze [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:13 pm ]
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I thought it was very good. Andy did a great job with the pacing and acting was great. Only issues were with CGI which has plagued most SH movies and this definitely amps up there. I think Ezra factor is holding it down. Otherwise this should have opened HUGE.

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:55 pm ]
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It's sad cause Miller is the main reason the movie is good.

Author:  O [ Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:13 pm ]
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Flash dropping below Transformers OW would be an even bigger shocker than Transformers overperforming.

At this rate, just watch IJ5 overperform given there may be no other movies above $20M by the time IJ opens.

Author:  Excel [ Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:54 pm ]
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Huge combination of factors.

Spiderverse and transformers (to lesser extent) hurting this.
DCEU stench hurting this.
Ezra Miller stench hurting this.
Everyone knowing this film goes nowhere stench.

We'll see where legs take it.

Plus....The Rock really is a huge draw, huh? Black Adam would have been a Shazam 2 like film with anyone else starring

Author:  O [ Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:40 am ]
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I honestly feel The Rock being in Black Adam and Keaton here allowed both movies to get to $45M+. Probably would have gotten a little more than Shazam, possibly $40M if Keaton wasn't here. It felt like the only fresh factor the movie had to offer and was where a lot of the buzz was coming from.

Did anyone have Spider-verse will triple The Flash's total on their summer bingo card? It could possibly happen.

Author:  Shack [ Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:05 am ]
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I agree that DC already moving onto the Gunn era made this seem more of a throwaway than it would have been, and Batgirl cancellation wasn't worth it, it made the DCEU look bad worse than any poor quality movie would have. Only question is how low can Aquaman 2 go.

Author:  O [ Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:22 am ]
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In a strange twist, I think Aquaman has a fighting chance, or at least more than The Flash. It has a good release date and this Christmas season feels lighter than usual. Wonka, Ghostbusters, Migration and The Color Purple.

FastX's disappointment is more on the franchise's lack of freshness over Momoa so think he won't be dinged too badly on that front.

Heard's presence will be minimal but people will see something and Aquaman should still benefit.

A gross close to the original is out of the question, but a $150M+ gross at this point is a win for DC even if its nearly 60%+ lower than its predecessor.

Author:  Algren [ Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:45 am ]
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O wrote:
In a strange twist, I think Aquaman has a fighting chance


You sure you're not just moving all expectations from Flash to Aquaman? And when Aquaman fails you'll move it to Superman: Legacy because DC's gotta have a hit at some point, right?

I feel these old DCEU lineage movies are just done. The only DC movies that will do well now are Joker: Folie á Deux and The Batman Part II.

Author:  O [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:33 pm ]
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The Flash could miss the top 20 for the year.

Have we ever had a movie we thought had a chance possibly to win the year flop in such epic fashion?

Meanwhile, I would love for another DC superhero movie, Joker to win 2024 mostly for the mixed signals. :P

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:38 pm ]
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Apparantly Aquaman 2 is testing poorly... if that is somehow not good it's crazy how they fucked up sequels for 2 hits (that and WW)

Author:  Algren [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:42 pm ]
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It's all gone so Pete Tong. This was never in the script. :sweat:

Author:  O [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:45 pm ]
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Pixar misses having their worst OW of all time by $500,000 unadjusted yet the WB dumpster fire gives them cover.

Have to give props to The Rock, he has serious bankability to get Black Adam as far as he did. Fast spoiler below.

Spoiler: show
Going back to the Fast franchise is a BIG win for the franchise. He's got a dedicated following and the interest on the Rock and Vin meeting up again with Momoa could be a hook that gets people to go watch the next one.

Author:  Barrabás [ Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:58 pm ]
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O wrote:
The Flash could miss the top 20 for the year.

Have we ever had a movie we thought had a chance possibly to win the year flop in such epic fashion?

Meanwhile, I would love for another DC superhero movie, Joker to win 2024 mostly for the mixed signals. :P


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