Yeah, I'd say it was a Big Win for me to..

When did BOM bump the production budget up to $270?

Told ya the "S" shirt at the random store in Las Vegas was a sign.

been there, this was a disturbingly expensive film the clear number 1. 200m means it gets a sequal hoefully there will be some action in that one.

now that all is sai dn done...what did go KIND OF wrong?


it wasnt the marketing. yes trailers were horrible, but the tv spot campaign was huge-hell, superman's june marketing was incredible imo.

i think it was, perhaps, that it was just TOO famous; not really fresh,combined with pradas huge over performance.

also, whats funny is 63% of supermans total audience was over 18....so where was all da kids?

What? TOO FAMOUS? Hahaha. Are you ever going to realize that PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE HIM THAT MUCH ANYMORE?

That was my point....

Your kidding, right?? Christ, just revert back to one of many posts I've posted over this movie for the answer to that..

[font=century gothic]1. Not enough action.

2. Pirates - And considering it went on to make $200 million despite having Pirates as direct competition, proves that a good amount of people liked the film. Next time around they just need to make sure they don't open up against a highly anticipated sequel starring Johnny Depp.

As for the character not being as popular as he once used to be, just look at the way he has been represented over the past 20 years.

1. One shit movie sequel that tanked.

2. Superboy

3. Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman

4. Smallville

The only thing on that list that people consider to be kind of good is Smallville and that doesn't even show Superman. And then there are the Batman films, which have taken the spot thanks to two good Burton films, the cartoon, and Batman Begins. He's on top now and rightfully so. The products have just been more popular. That saying, if the Superman sequel can deliver the action everyone wants, I think it's going to be a 1a/1b situation.

It'll also be interesting to see what Spider-Man 3 does with all the competition. Can it hold it's audience with the competition. If not, you may see something kind of similar to Superman here. It'll probably make over $200 million, but if the quality is similar to the first film.........

The chances of that though are kind of slim, but I don't see it making the original or sequel numbers.[/font]

With SPIDERMAN III, you will never see this movie on the level as to how SUPERMAN RETURNS performed.. SPIDERMAN III I Guarantee will break 350 Million at the least.. Sam Raimi hasn't let the fan's down yet theoretically and has stayed pretty true to the character with minor adjustments..

[font=century gothic]That wasn't my point. I personally see III making $300+. My point though was, considering the competition, I wouldn't be surprised if the letdown is the same like Superman Returns was, although in the end it found itself in the bounds of what it was supposed to make realistically. Maybe even a little bit more considering the factors.[/font]

There's only 1 movie next summer to rule them all and it will be SPIDERMAN 3.. VENOM will all but guarantee that..

Being "too famous" and being "not so famous" is not the same thing.

ummm...no....by too famous i was refering to that he's not fresh, "old" or "out of date" because of hopw famous he is, hence why people like him less. theyve gotten sick of him because hes been so over exposed.

ummm...no....by too famous i was refering to that he's not fresh, "old" or "out of date" because of hopw famous he is, hence why people like him less. theyve gotten sick of him because hes been so over exposed.

[font=century gothic]Okay, even I have to say you're saying two different things here. You're saying both he's not fresh and he's over exposed. It's right now the former, despite the titles I mentioned earlier.[/font]

Brilliant prediction initially but as usual u went overboard later.

Excel must have been nuts to think this one will be a Blockbuster. it was a crap movie and thankfully under performed with average WOM. I m sure WB will reboot the franchise with a new director and cast.

We can only hope they will, I still have no clue why they would continue a series that started nearly 30 Years ago.

Hey, how was I supposed to know itd be a gloomy, actionless, unmarketable downer, even if they nailed supes casting?

I recall my posts at mojo as "Elterrible" and yours as magnus101 where we compared supes vs. pirates 2 to" spidey vs. atoc"

he was a wimp, as he proved by getting his ass kicked and killed.

I thought wed be getting a modern version of this:



Hip, cool, action packed with depth, absurdly marketable....it would make...

"Billions!"

And I still maintain a film like that would.

It didn't help that the movie was beyond lame.