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Looks like over/under 60m for Indy. Not great but at least it’s better than the Flash. Though that 300m budget will make it a bigger bomb if it doesn’t do better overseas


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$20m probably where Ruby Gillman is heading. I don't think this one will do well overseas either. Sub-$100m WW almost certain, and probably a lot lower than that too. It's going to see a monster decline in theaters in its third weekend.

Universal probably losing up to $100m on this one. No merchandise to try to recover a little bit of that back from either.

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Ruby Gillman seemed like a dump from the first trailer. Dream works is capable of more appealing animated films.


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Wow at that Asteroid City drop. Guess it's not gonna go past $25m.


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I think Indy is a perfect movie to watch on D+ and it presumably is still an international brand. These movies like it and Elemental will lose money in theatres but as an asset it probably ends up not being that massive an L. The Flash is worse cause these DC fanboys must be going to it in theatres not watching it on Max.

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Pretty embarassing that Transformers might end up being the biggest opening of June. Wow.


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Pretty embarassing that Transformers might end up being the biggest opening of June. Wow.


Second lol don’t forget spider verse


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Oooooh yeah I forgot about Spiderverse yeesh

but yeah I really expected Transformers to do really horrible, it opening above Flash and potentially Indy is crazy.


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Kennedy should’ve been let go after the catastrophe of Solo ASWS. It takes a special kind of hubris and incompetence to interfere creatively, fire the original directors, deliver a mid film, and create a huge money losing bomb out of one of the most iconic characters ever that should’ve been an easy slam dunk.

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In terms of the June expectations game (ie not already the predestined blockbuster), Transformers remains a huge winner despite its cost. It looks like it could do somewhere between $150-155M and in a less competitive date would have done $200M+. It's a great turnaround and if they deliver another quality movie I don't doubt the franchise could eventually do $250M+ again.

Aside from Spiderverse, another winner has to be The Boogeyman. Could finish the long weekend with about $43M total or so and had the best drop of the top 10. It also opened AGAINST Spiderverse and had a $12,356,486 OW and could very well get just under a 4X multiplier. This could have been DOA but managed a leggy run.


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Re: STAR WARS, scarcity can be a good thing and the Disney machine ruined that


Exactly.

Knew this the minute they announced 2 year intervals between the sequels + spin-offs in between. Even Iger later admitted it.

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Charlie is saying 19m Saturday. ~58m OW. At least it did not pull in a Flash :-)

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I think Indy is a perfect movie to watch on D+ and it presumably is still an international brand. These movies like it and Elemental will lose money in theatres but as an asset it probably ends up not being that massive an L. The Flash is worse cause these DC fanboys must be going to it in theatres not watching it on Max.


Elemental is, in my opinion, going to have a unique reputation in movie box office lore. Historically, a lot of money losers tend to be things hoist on their own petard; They're usually too lousy or too ambitious or a bad idea. There's a real "Coulda happened to anyone" thing going on Elemental, where maybe it could have had more oomph, and maybe should have cost less, but is more a victim of circumstance than anything.


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Charlie is saying 19m Saturday. ~58m OW. At least it did not pull in a Flash :-)


Good lord, the last few weeks have two be among the biggest "times have changed" box office events in recent memory. That would have been a terrible number in 2008 for Crystal Skull...

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For anyone's interest for inflation purposes (rough approximates likely higher due to Mojo's 2020 price used ):

3-day adjusted OWs:

IJ1 $27.1M (3day) - 25.55X multiplier afterward which was CRAZY!
IJ2 $68.99 ($91.7M with pre OW grosses included)
IJ3 $67.30M ($90.0M with pre OW grosses included)
IJ4 $127.6M ($159.5M with Thursday included)
IJ5 $58M (3day)

It looks like IJ5's 3day OW may be a little more than 1/3 (36%) IJ4's 4day OW. :grrr:

Even with an older audience, I do wonder if this could somehow miss $150M total, something the last movie did in 4 days. It's also pretty sad because didn't this franchise hold the OW record as well with IJ3? IJ2 may have had it at one time as well.

Also what a run for Ford in 1977/1980/1981/1983 box office wise

1977: Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope $1,629,496,559
1980: Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back $899,035,076
1981: Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark $810,024,538
1983: Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi $860,486,744

4 of the top 22 films of all time adjusted within a 7 year period. Then another to make it 5 with The Force Awakens in 2015 ($989,072,973). I don't think any other actor has starred in 5 $800M+ adjusted for inflation movies, even the Avengers cast. So when you have starred in so many hits it loses money but probably will have zero impact on Ford's legacy in cinema as its so deeply engrained and inconsequential what IJ5 does though the studio I'm sure had other ideas!


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They were so delusional to think audiences wanted another Indiana Jones that badly. This should’ve cost $160m at most.

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In terms of the June expectations game (ie not already the predestined blockbuster), Transformers remains a huge winner despite its cost. It looks like it could do somewhere between $150-155M and in a less competitive date would have done $200M+. It's a great turnaround and if they deliver another quality movie I don't doubt the franchise could eventually do $250M+ again.

Aside from Spiderverse, another winner has to be The Boogeyman. Could finish the long weekend with about $43M total or so and had the best drop of the top 10. It also opened AGAINST Spiderverse and had a $12,356,486 OW and could very well get just under a 4X multiplier. This could have been DOA but managed a leggy run.


Agreed. Those are both my draft picks, too. Boogeyman unfortunately won't have enough left in the tank for $50m, but Transformers doing $155m would be sweet!

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Indy will have a similar budget and domestic box office to No Timr to Die. But looks like the overseas might not be there for this one.


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For anyone's interest for inflation purposes (rough approximates likely higher due to Mojo's 2020 price used ):

3-day adjusted OWs:

IJ1 $27.1M (3day) - 25.55X multiplier afterward which was CRAZY!
IJ2 $68.99 ($91.7M with pre OW grosses included)
IJ3 $67.30M ($90.0M with pre OW grosses included)
IJ4 $127.6M ($159.5M with Thursday included)
IJ5 $58M (3day)

It looks like IJ5's 3day OW may be a little more than 1/3 (36%) IJ4's 4day OW. :grrr:


Even this is misleading because DOOM and CRUSADE both broke the opening weekend record at their time. Crystal Skull's funky opening makes reading it difficult but its opening weekend on a traditional date would have been in the $120m range which would have been top 3 all time back in 2008. It was super hyped.

This is a pathetic joke and frankly is much, much larger underperformance than FLASH.

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For anyone's interest for inflation purposes (rough approximates likely higher due to Mojo's 2020 price used ):

3-day adjusted OWs:

IJ1 $27.1M (3day) - 25.55X multiplier afterward which was CRAZY!
IJ2 $68.99 ($91.7M with pre OW grosses included)
IJ3 $67.30M ($90.0M with pre OW grosses included)
IJ4 $127.6M ($159.5M with Thursday included)
IJ5 $58M (3day)

It looks like IJ5's 3day OW may be a little more than 1/3 (36%) IJ4's 4day OW. :grrr:


Even this is misleading because DOOM and CRUSADE both broke the opening weekend record at their time. Crystal Skull's funky opening makes reading it difficult but its opening weekend on a traditional date would have been in the $120m range which would have been top 3 all time back in 2008. It was super hyped.

This is a pathetic joke and frankly is much, much larger underperformance than FLASH.


Really, MUCH MUCH? Maybe a little bigger lol, but not MUCH MUCH


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History says Indiana Jones should have bee. a mid to high 100m opener. Flash would have been lucky hit 100m.

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