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| Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Most giant blockbusters do mostly appeal to men, but there is precedence of feminine skewing movies putting up monster openings with Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey. |
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| Author: | Algren [ Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Those appeal to men as well. One is about bondage and you get to see nudity and the other is about vamps battling werewolves. But Barbie? What really is the appeal for males there? I don't see it. It is about as associated with females only as tampons. |
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| Author: | Rev [ Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Algren wrote: Those appeal to men as well. One is about bondage and you get to see nudity and the other is about vamps battling werewolves. But Barbie? What really is the appeal for males there? I don't see it. It is about as associated with females only as tampons. 
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| Author: | O [ Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
New Moon (2009) pulled the 3rd biggest OW of all time and it had 80% females show up OW. 20% men didn't mostly go to see vampires vs werewolves. I'm sure lots got pulled to see it for Sat. date night. Barbie is going to probably be a similar case. Even heavily skewing female led movies like Eat, Pray, Love pulled 72% female. It's like saying what's the appeal of Paw Patrol for adults. So no adults will see it? Nope, lots will be brought by their kids to go! |
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| Author: | Barrabás [ Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Lol the only men seeing Twilight were reluctant boyfriends and young gays with their fruit flies. Still had blockbuster openings five movies in a row. The potential is absolutely there. |
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| Author: | Thegun [ Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Barbie has some crossover appeal, it looks pretty universal to be honest. |
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| Author: | Keyser Söze [ Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Terrific start to presales for Barbie and Oppenheimer is very strong anyway plus seem to be boosted over past day due to combo buzz !!! Now I am confident both these movies out open Flash. |
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| Author: | Libs [ Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Keyser Söze wrote: Terrific start to presales for Barbie and Oppenheimer is very strong anyway plus seem to be boosted over past day due to combo buzz !!! Now I am confident both these movies out open Flash. Can't remember the last time, if ever, a release date face-off was promoted to such great effect in a way that would benefit both movies. |
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| Author: | publicenemy#1 [ Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Oppemheimer opening to $50m+ would be crazy. Wonder how much Tenet would've opened with in regular circumstance. |
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| Author: | Rev [ Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Libs wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Terrific start to presales for Barbie and Oppenheimer is very strong anyway plus seem to be boosted over past day due to combo buzz !!! Now I am confident both these movies out open Flash. Can't remember the last time, if ever, a release date face-off was promoted to such great effect in a way that would benefit both movies. hoping for a photo finish  and have studios fight over which one was cheating with the numbers https://www.forbes.com/2002/06/24/0624t ... 4f2bc33da6 Quote: Other studios that make their own estimates calculate that both movies earned slightly less than their backers said, and that Lilo & Stitch took in slightly more than Minority Report. Some in Hollywood say studios often inflate weekend estimates, knowing that the media will report the estimate rather than final figures. But no one will publicly accuse anyone else. It all brings to mind the line uttered by Robert Shaw Robert Shaw in The Sting after Paul Newman Paul Newman pulls four jacks to beat his four nines: "What am I supposed to do? Accuse him of cheating better than me in front of the others?" "As much as I'd like to go there, I'm not going to. That's not our style," Chuck Viane Chuck Viane , Disney's head of distribution, told The Associated Press. He said he thinks Fox simply erred and does not believe the studio deliberately inflated its Minority Report numbers. |
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| Author: | Keyser Söze [ Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
I am expecting both these movies to have strong critical reactions as well. So its going to be great overall not just for box office but 2 good but very different movies releasing on the same weekend. Great for theaters for sure. |
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| Author: | Barrabás [ Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Here's to hoping the franchise floppage of this year and the success of Barbie and Oppenheimer will convince studios that tentpoles can also be non-sequels/franchise films. I feel like the tide is changing and all these tired franchises are on the way out and audiences want something fresh again. |
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| Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
I'd like to think thats true. Yet what is more likely to happen... 2026 box office predictions: 1. Mario Bros 2 2. The Legend of Zelda 3. Barbie v GI Joe 4. Untitled Chris Nolan Movie 5. Animated Batman/Joker Multiverse Spinoff |
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| Author: | Rev [ Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Flava'd vs The World wrote: I'd like to think thats true. Yet what is more likely to happen... 2026 box office predictions: 1. Mario Bros 2 2. The Legend of Zelda 3. 4. Untitled Chris Nolan Movie 5. Animated Batman/Joker Multiverse Spinoff 
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| Author: | MadGez [ Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Looking good for at least $150m combined OW for both Barbie and Oppenheimer. Likely more. |
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| Author: | MadGez [ Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Libs wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Terrific start to presales for Barbie and Oppenheimer is very strong anyway plus seem to be boosted over past day due to combo buzz !!! Now I am confident both these movies out open Flash. Can't remember the last time, if ever, a release date face-off was promoted to such great effect in a way that would benefit both movies. I can’t either. None that were scheduled ever really eventuates. MIB and Titanic were both scheduled for July 97 - Titanic moved. GotG and Fifty Shades were scheduled for the same August 14 weekend but Shades moved. The only one I can recall would be Fast Six v Hangover 3 a decade ago. In the end it was a non event. |
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| Author: | Thegun [ Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Memorial Day 2005. The Longest Yard 47.6 million, Madagascar 47.2, and Revenge of the Sith stayed on top with 55.2 Happy Feet beat Casino Royale by 700k in 2006. The day After Tomorrow- 67.2 million. Shrek 2-72.1. |
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| Author: | Rev [ Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Thegun wrote: Memorial Day 2005. The Longest Yard 47.6 million, Madagascar 47.2, and Revenge of the Sith stayed on top with 55.2 Happy Feet beat Casino Royale by 700k in 2006. The day After Tomorrow- 67.2 million. Shrek 2-72.1. WOW!  only 5.2 million away from all 3 topping $50m each
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Looks like Barbie will do in one day almost what Elemental and Flash did over their whole weekend combined |
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| Author: | O [ Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Final result: Flash - $55,043,679, Elemental - $29,602,429 = $84,646,108 Barbie - $162,022,044, Oppenheimer $82,455,420 = $244,477,464 B+O beat F+E by a factor of 2.89 and nearly triple their grosses. Oppenheimer alone almost beat F+E. The opening days handily beat F+E as well. B+O wins!
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| Author: | publicenemy#1 [ Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Barbie's OD alone close to Flash and Elemental's total OW... embarassing. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
Lol at this annihiliation |
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| Author: | Algren [ Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
zwack, change the title to Barbenheimer vs Flamental |
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| Author: | Rev [ Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
publicenemy#1 wrote: Barbie's OD alone close to Flash and Elemental's total OW... embarassing.  
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| Author: | O [ Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Barbie+Oppenheimer vs Flash+Elemental |
So Elemental to catch up total wise needs: Barbie: $550M Oppenheimer $350M Total: $900M+ Flash: $108M Elemental: $138M so far So Elemental will just need another $654M to catch up on totals  . Based on its 3day weekend, Elemental will just need a 114.4X multiplier to make up for The Flash.
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