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lilmac
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
O wrote: I always think back to Disney (ABC)'s handling of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.
Season 1: Became the #1 show. They put it on 3 times per week and averaged 30 million viewers. Millionaire was the #1, #2 and #3 rating show of the 1999-2000 season.
Season 2: In 2000-2001, it was ranked #3, #4 and #8.
Season 3: In 2001-2002, ranked #33 and 49th (and night version was essentially cancelled).
So goes the story of the mouse house of cyclical oversaturation. Those stock dividends don’t pay for themselves
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Algren
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
So let's say Part One finishes with $160-165m, what does Part Two do?
I don't want to get carried away like I did for Part One, but does it increase by default due to no "Barbenheimer" and it being the climax? or are we just setting ourselves up for another disappointment to expect it to reach, say, $180-200m?
I mean, it's not as if it has no competition in summer 2024. Two weeks prior it has Inside Out 2/Bad Boys 4 opening, and five days after it opens on 28th June it has Despicable Me 4. There's also an unknown Universal tentpole opening on 21st June. Considering how weak the M:I franchise has now been found out to be, maybe it will struggle unless it has weeks and weeks to itself. I also feel the stunt needs to be super impressive this time. There's also another feeling I have; maybe Maverick in 2022, Part One in 2023, and Part Two in 2024 is just ... too much Cruise? Not for me, but for the general public.
Ugh, I don't know. I just feel quite pessimistic about it since Dead Reckoning Part One underwhelmed. I also don't see people gagging to see the conclusion of the Dead Reckoning chapter. There was no cliffhanger. It will just be another M:I movie to many.
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MadGez
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Part Two will increase (as long as they pick the right release date). But the increase will only be to about $200m at best.
Has it been confirmed that it will be the final MI film? or final Cruise MI film?
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Algren
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
I'm not sure it's been explicitly said that it will be the final one / final one with Cruise, but the general feeling is that it will be. He is 61 now.
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DP07
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Wow, so it might not even reach 170m.
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Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:47 am |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Algren wrote: DP07 wrote: Algren wrote: Being excessively female doesn't help action movies. That's why I'd like to see less women. But as per usual in this pathetic woke world it's equal at four men and four women on the poster. Ugh. Women can be more than fine in action movies. The “Underworld” and “Resident Evil” movies are better than the boring, generic shit you like. He chooses females movies that made peanuts! This is a box office discussion thread you tool. And FWIW I loved Underworld and its sequel. How about you direct this back towards the films and their box office and not at personal taste. BTW, I should add that the expectations, experience, and perception of your species in regards to sex and gender is not relevant to my own new species. Everything you think you know or are aware of, is not applicable, or not applicable in the way you expect. For example, I certainly expect that in the future, the women of my species will easily be able to physically kill the men of your species most if not all of the time. You might as well try compare any set of very different species. Anyway, obviously the films I was talking about were in reference to Hollywood, and generally the source material for “intellectual property”, most of which historically has had male protagonists. So of course, most big action movies have had male protagonists in that time. That existed generally before I was even born, and doesn’t directly reflect me or my own new species.
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DP07
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Barrabás wrote: Katie Holmes beat his ass in the real life game of Mission Impossible getting their daughter out of that cult and walking away with millions, so it's completely appropriate he would be overshadowed by women in this film. I guess someone should ask if the Aliens are in the “Church of Scientology’s” celebrity center. Of course, you would have to consider my own new species “The Aliens”. No joke. We really are inhuman to each other. Your no different than any other animal species as far as I’m concerned, or my species is concerned for our future. I’ll try to link an “Independence Day” clip later.
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O
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Seems like Mission Impossible's box office disappointment has led to a shift, Tom Cruise has signed a deal with WB to develop and produce original and franchise films for him to star. He'll have offices on the WB lot. It won't be exclusive. He hasn't made a movie with WB since Edge of Tomorrow 10 years ago so interesting change. He's only made Universal and Paramount movies over the past decade. WB seems to be picking up its game a fair bit. https://variety.com/2024/film/news/tom- ... 235866282/
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Algren
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Hopefully he has found a place to bring him back to that time when he was making original films like Vanilla Sky and Minority Report between franchise films like M:I-2. That's what Cruise fans have wanted for so long. Just hope he avoids anymore Mummy's.
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MadGez
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Yeah, I do hope he goes back to his early 00s days where he was on top form in original films: Vanilla Sky, Minority Report, Last Samurai, Collateral etc
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Algren
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
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flip1
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
You mustn’t be afraid to dream bigger
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Algren
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
I'm not going to be burned by the franchise again
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zwackerm
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
This will probably gross same as last one or less
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32450 Location: the last free city
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Being the last one ever……$300m
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Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:22 pm |
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Algren
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
It's never the last one ever. This is Hollywood!
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MadGez
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Between $250m and $300m. Competition isn't big so it may get close to $300m
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Rev
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Algren wrote: It's never the last one ever. This is Hollywood! Truer words have never been spoken
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O
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
The last one I think was the worst attended of the entire franchise and unadjusted made $172,135,383.
The trailer is great but the last film's performance showed overconfidence on the studio's part to put it before Barbenheimer. They rode TGM goodwill but that wasn't enough. Showed a bit of fatigue with the franchise too.
On the positive front, it looks like Paramount has learned some lessons here with a very different feel of the trailer and smartly removing the "Part 2." They aren't getting lazy here.
I do think Lilo and Stitch / Karate Kid will be much bigger than anticipated though, especially L&S. They still want the summer release date so should still squeak by $200M as Barbenheimer just was too much for it to overcome and comp looks more manageable here.
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O
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
It's rumored Tom Cruise wants Glen Powell to take lead for future Mission Impossible films.
So could help hype up the next film if there is any type of handover in the film. Powell also has big heartland box office pull so would be something.
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Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:44 pm |
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Algren
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
This is the problem with Hollywood.
I ain't watching if it does a handover. NOBODY wants or likes handovers. It has never worked in any franchise.
What you need to do is start another franchise where Glen Powell can build a following on his own merit.
Hit Man + role in Maverick = can take over the M:I franchise? fuck off
Cruise can have bad ideas and can make bad decisions, and this could be one of them. He made Jack Reacher: Never Go Back after all. It had instructions IN THE FUCKING TITLE, TOM! But he ignored it. And don't get me started on The Fucking Mummy.
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O
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
The only successful handovers have been where the star is a character (Predator, Halloween, Alien, Transformers, Jurassic Park with dinosaurs). But agreed these don't usually go well. Powell seems like he could pull it off like he did with Twisters though. It was based on a TV show afterall too so Tom is actually the 2nd version of it to begin with though it's now likely his most iconic role.
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Algren
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
The only franchise where it has actually worked is Creed, and that was a proper handover.
If the star is a character then it's not even to be considered as a handover, because there is no dominant actor stepping away and "handing it over" to a newbie. But with Creed it worked.
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Flava'd vs The World
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
Cruise doing crazy stunts is the main appeal of these movies. You can't just replicate that, nobody is gonna buy it.
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MadGez
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Re: Mission Impossible 7 and 8 predictions
I still don't understand Tom's reasoning behind starring in the tepid Mummy remake.
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