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Ahmed Johnson
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rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote:
Nirvana - Nevermind
I'm sorry, but Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. I hate it when people say it is one of the greatest albums ever, I know that everybody can have their opinion, and if you think it is great, go ahead and list it, but I personally think the album wasn't even good. Nirvana ain't that good either.
THAN ANY BLOATED TEN-MINUTE GUITAR SOLO HARD ROCK BANDS
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Megadeath - Killing is my business... And business is good, Rust in Peace, Countdown to Extinction
Metallica - ...And Justice for All, Black album, Ride the lightning, Master of Puppets,
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raditz147
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rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: Moving Pictures is my favorite Rush album, but most Rush albums rock. Moving Pictures is also my fav rush album but listening to 2112 live is something special. Hell listening to any rush live is something special. My cd Rush in Rio is always competing with zeppelin's How the West Was Won as to what I should be listening to in my cd player. Yes, most live albums (of any band) are good. AC/DC has a pretty good live album too. _________________
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Ahmed Johnson
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rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote:
Nirvana - Nevermind
I'm sorry, but Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. I hate it when people say it is one of the greatest albums ever, I know that everybody can have their opinion, and if you think it is great, go ahead and list it, but I personally think the album wasn't even good. Nirvana ain't that good either. Thank God! Somebody finally agrees with me on Nirvana! They took pushed sloppy guitar playing to the max. Jimmy Page did it but he made it sound great. Cobain just ruins the style.
Cobain's true gifts lie in his awesome emotional song-writing
THAT HE AUGMENTS WITH
Distinctive yet not overly-complicated guitar-playing!_________________
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rusty
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Ahmed Johnson wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote:
Nirvana - Nevermind
I'm sorry, but Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. I hate it when people say it is one of the greatest albums ever, I know that everybody can have their opinion, and if you think it is great, go ahead and list it, but I personally think the album wasn't even good. Nirvana ain't that good either.
THAN ANY BLOATED TEN-MINUTE GUITAR SOLO HARD ROCK BANDS
:wink: I'd much rather be listening to Jimmy Page rock out to Stairway to Heaven for 10 minutes, John Bonham or Neil Peart bust out an awesome yet long drum solo or the might of Geddy Lee/Robert Plante's voice screeching above the powerful instruments then hear Cobain trying to sing and snort coke at the same time.
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Ahmed Johnson
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Terminator1997 wrote: nirvana is one of the most overrated bands of ALL TIME. Their music is mediocre. People seem to put them on this high pedistal just because kurt cobain blew his brains out. They're an average band at best.
TRYING TO DISCREDIT WHAT NIRVANA
did
Personally the one ahmed johnson would find their music excellent
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rusty
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Ahmed Johnson wrote: But Page was a guitar expert!
Cobain's true gifts lie in his awesome emotional song-writing
THAT HE AUGMENTS WITH
Distinctive yet not overly-complicated guitar-playing! Taking coke and writting lyrics about how sad people make you surely doesn't take that much talent.
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Ahmed Johnson
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 raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote:
Nirvana - Nevermind
I'm sorry, but Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. I hate it when people say it is one of the greatest albums ever, I know that everybody can have their opinion, and if you think it is great, go ahead and list it, but I personally think the album wasn't even good. Nirvana ain't that good either. Thank God! Somebody finally agrees with me on Nirvana! They took pushed sloppy guitar playing to the max. Jimmy Page did it but he made it sound great. Cobain just ruins the style. Well, Jimmy Page had talent........thats something Cobain didn't have (atleast in guitar playing) Cobain had no talent. His lyrics are mainly from all the crack he did and doing crack isn't a talent. SOME people would argue that doing crack IS a talent;however, I agree with you. It pains me when I'm talking to somebody and they mention that Nirvana is great and even compare them to greats such as Led Zep, AC/DC, GNR, etc.... When people say that I go off on a rant about how that is blashepmy to compare them to those greats!
HOW CAN THEY BE GREAT??
GnR created one magnificent album
BUT THE FOLLOW-UPS WERE BLOATED AFFAIRS_________________
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Of Course! I always forget Black Album, even though it is one of their best.
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At Folsom Prison- Johnny Cash
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raditz147
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Ahmed Johnson wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote:
Nirvana - Nevermind
I'm sorry, but Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. I hate it when people say it is one of the greatest albums ever, I know that everybody can have their opinion, and if you think it is great, go ahead and list it, but I personally think the album wasn't even good. Nirvana ain't that good either. Thank God! Somebody finally agrees with me on Nirvana! They took pushed sloppy guitar playing to the max. Jimmy Page did it but he made it sound great. Cobain just ruins the style. Well, Jimmy Page had talent........thats something Cobain didn't have (atleast in guitar playing) Cobain had no talent. His lyrics are mainly from all the crack he did and doing crack isn't a talent. SOME people would argue that doing crack IS a talent;however, I agree with you. It pains me when I'm talking to somebody and they mention that Nirvana is great and even compare them to greats such as Led Zep, AC/DC, GNR, etc.... When people say that I go off on a rant about how that is blashepmy to compare them to those greats!
HOW CAN THEY BE GREAT??
Nirvana created one magnificent album
BUT THE FOLLOW-UPS WERE BLOATED AFFAIRSWell, for one, if it wasn't for AC/DC we wouldn't even have Nirvana........., also I respect Nirvana for bringing back Rock and Roll, but still they are overrated _________________
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rusty
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Ahmed Johnson wrote:
AC/DC - one of the least creative (and dumbest) bands ever
HOW CAN THEY BE GREAT??
Nirvana created one magnificent album
BUT THE FOLLOW-UPS WERE BLOATED AFFAIRS
That's the problem with Nirvana. They got one good album.
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Ahmed Johnson
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rusty wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote:
Nirvana - Nevermind
I'm sorry, but Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. I hate it when people say it is one of the greatest albums ever, I know that everybody can have their opinion, and if you think it is great, go ahead and list it, but I personally think the album wasn't even good. Nirvana ain't that good either.
THAN ANY BLOATED TEN-MINUTE GUITAR SOLO HARD ROCK BANDS
:wink: I'd much rather be listening to Jimmy Page rock out to Stairway to Heaven for 10 minutes, John Bonham or Neil Peart bust out an awesome yet long drum solo or the might of Geddy Lee/Robert Plante's voice screeching above the powerful instruments then hear Cobain trying to sing and snort coke at the same time.
But in general that histrionic style of guitar playing is pretty naff
AND OVER-DONE
Jimmy Page was inspired enough to make his solos memorable and necessary to most of LZ's songs
In general that style though is overblown and pompous_________________
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Ahmed Johnson wrote: Thre one ahmed johnson loves led zeppelin too!
But in general that histrionic style of guitar playing is pretty naff
AND OVER-DONE
Jimmy Page was inspired enough to make his solos memorable and necessary to most of LZ's songs
In general that style though is overblown and pompous Page's guitar solo's are overblown and pompous but he's got the raw talent to support the level of pompousness (word??) that he gives out. Many other guitarists just don't have the talent to even attempt something like Page's work yet always try.
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Ahmed Johnson
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raditz147 wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote:
Nirvana - Nevermind
I'm sorry, but Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. I hate it when people say it is one of the greatest albums ever, I know that everybody can have their opinion, and if you think it is great, go ahead and list it, but I personally think the album wasn't even good. Nirvana ain't that good either. Thank God! Somebody finally agrees with me on Nirvana! They took pushed sloppy guitar playing to the max. Jimmy Page did it but he made it sound great. Cobain just ruins the style. Well, Jimmy Page had talent........thats something Cobain didn't have (atleast in guitar playing) Cobain had no talent. His lyrics are mainly from all the crack he did and doing crack isn't a talent. SOME people would argue that doing crack IS a talent;however, I agree with you. It pains me when I'm talking to somebody and they mention that Nirvana is great and even compare them to greats such as Led Zep, AC/DC, GNR, etc.... When people say that I go off on a rant about how that is blashepmy to compare them to those greats!
HOW CAN THEY BE GREAT??
Nirvana created one magnificent album
BUT THE FOLLOW-UPS WERE BLOATED AFFAIRSWell, for one, if it wasn't for AC/DC we wouldn't even have Nirvana........., also I respect Nirvana for bringing back Rock and Roll, but still they are overrated
GNR HAD ONE GREAT ALBUM
sorry about that 
In Utero is a brillian album as well
as for AC/DC being responsible for Nirvana???
WRONG
Nirvana come from bands like Pixies and alternative rock not dumb
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raditz147 wrote:
Well, for one, if it wasn't for AC/DC we wouldn't even have Nirvana........., also I respect Nirvana for bringing back Rock and Roll, but still they are overrated
GnR totally brought back rock & roll. Nirvana in a way killed it. They made it so mainstream and just made the MTV world crazy about them. How can that be bringing back R&R?
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Ahmed Johnson
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rusty wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote: Thre one ahmed johnson loves led zeppelin too!
But in general that histrionic style of guitar playing is pretty naff
AND OVER-DONE
Jimmy Page was inspired enough to make his solos memorable and necessary to most of LZ's songs
In general that style though is overblown and pompous Page's guitar solo's are overblown and pompous but he's got the raw talent to support the level of pompousness (word??) that he gives out. Many other guitarists just don't have the talent to even attempt something like Page's work yet always try.
That is why Ahmed is backing Nirvana cause they didn't try that style of rock
THEY WERE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AND DIRECT (not than Zepp but that style of rock in general)
and they also killed off the naff 80s metallers!
so be thankful! :wink: _________________
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GNR has three great albums...... So your telling my that nirvana never listened to people like AC/DC, and even if nirvana wasn't influenced by AC/DC, AC/DC was popular enough to open the doors for people like GNR, and then later on Nirvana
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Ahmed Johnson
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rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote:
Well, for one, if it wasn't for AC/DC we wouldn't even have Nirvana........., also I respect Nirvana for bringing back Rock and Roll, but still they are overrated
GnR totally brought back rock & roll. Nirvana in a way killed it. They made it so mainstream and just made the MTV world crazy about them. How can that be bringing back R&R?
BUT THEY DID BRING BACK RNR BECAUSE
they took the emphasis away from 80s hair-rock which wasn't
rock and roll
AT ALL_________________
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Ahmed Johnson wrote: The "nirvana had one great album" line should read
GNR HAD ONE GREAT ALBUM
sorry about that
In Utero is a brillian album as well
as for AC/DC being responsible for Nirvana???
WRONG
Nirvana come from bands like Pixies and alternative rock not dumb
HARD-ROCKERS Appetite for Destruction
Use Your Illusions I
Use Your Illusions II
Now those 3 albums rock very hard. GnR have 5 albums out there. 3 awesome albums out of 5 beats the hell out of Nirvana.
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Ahmed Johnson
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raditz147 wrote: GNR has three great albums...... So your telling my that nirvana never listened to people like AC/DC, and even if nirvana wasn't influenced by AC/DC, AC/DC was popular enough to open the doors for people like GNR, and then later on Nirvana
AC/DC WEREN'T SOME SINGULAR DRIVING FORCE BEHIND ROCK N ROLL RESURGENCE
Cobain seems to be strongly influenced by The Beatles (his melodies)
AND NEIL YOUNG (his abrasive distorted guitar style)
AS MUCH AS HARD ROCK STUFF
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Ahmed Johnson
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rusty wrote: Ahmed Johnson wrote: The "nirvana had one great album" line should read
GNR HAD ONE GREAT ALBUM
sorry about that
In Utero is a brillian album as well
as for AC/DC being responsible for Nirvana???
WRONG
Nirvana come from bands like Pixies and alternative rock not dumb
HARD-ROCKERS Appetite for Destruction Use Your Illusions I Use Your Illusions II Now those 3 albums rock very hard. GnR have 5 albums out there. 3 awesome albums out of 5 beats the hell out of Nirvana.
INSPIRED
moments!
But they are bloated as hell
AND LACK THE TRUE GREATNESS TO BE CLASSICS
If they were combined into one singular 12 track album
WITH THE BEST SONGS
Perhaps then it would be a classic follow-up!_________________
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Ahmed Johnson wrote: exactly
That is why Ahmed is backing Nirvana cause they didn't try that style of rock
THEY WERE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AND DIRECT (not than Zepp but that style of rock in general)
and they also killed off the naff 80s metallers!
so be thankful! :wink: Nirvana is just a bunch of stoned out people trying to play instruments! The only one with some kind of talent was Grohl. GnR killed off the 80s hair metal (pop metal...  hate saying that word) with AfD.
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rusty wrote: raditz147 wrote:
Well, for one, if it wasn't for AC/DC we wouldn't even have Nirvana........., also I respect Nirvana for bringing back Rock and Roll, but still they are overrated
GnR totally brought back rock & roll. Nirvana in a way killed it. They made it so mainstream and just made the MTV world crazy about them. How can that be bringing back R&R? Yea, but atleast somebody was listening to some kind of rock, even if I don't like the band. Isn't it better that people be listening to rock, instead of NOT listening to rock? _________________
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Ahmed Johnson wrote: With Nirvana alt-rock became more mainstream
BUT THEY DID BRING BACK RNR BECAUSE
they took the emphasis away from 80s hair-rock which wasn't
rock and roll
AT ALL well at least we can agree that hair metal is not rock and roll at all 
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