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Did anyone watch the premiere last night? The reality show moved from HBO to Bravo.

Last night was as explosive as ever as Art Vs Commerce fought for 12 rounds. Damon, Moore, and Affleck wanted a film they could stand behind and Dimension execs wanted a film that would turn a profit. Moore was the first to cross over because he was tired of losing money (season 1 winner Stolen Summer and season 2 Battle of Shaker Heights both failed at the box office).

The twist this year is to produce a genre film and the great Wes Craven has come aboard to executive produce the film. They agreed on 3 screenplays for the finalists (a thriller, a comedy, and horror). They also agreed on 3 directors (the eager one, the smart one, and the older vet).

They eventually picked Feast the horror screenplay influenced by Evil Dead about monsters attacking a group of people in a bar. As for the director, they picked the older vet, who seems destined to be either the greatest thing to happen to Project Greenlight or the worst. His pitch has to be seen to be believed. It was awful.

This looks to be the best season yet.


Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:51 am
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Yeah, I watched it. It was pretty much exactly what I thought it'd be - a lot of horror bashing. I loved how the Feast script was automatically labeled the "worst" of the three, even though i've personally read it and it's very good. I don't know what the hell Wes Craven was going on about. Go back and look at Cursed before you question other people's horror movies. Damon was pissing me off, too, with his artistry over money baloney. You know, this coming from the guy who just made Stuck On You. And like it's impossible for a horror movie to be both artistically and financially successful. I used to think the talk about Hollywood being biased against horror was untrue. Guess I was wrong.

Anywho, I think they picked the most artistically gifted director, but it's going to bite them in the ass when the film takes three years to get in the can. I also liked the "smart" one. Scott Smith was his name, I think. He had a lot of really cool ideas (the death score card was priceless). Something about the "eager" one just didin't click with me. I can't quite put my finger on it. I think he would have been the worst pick. I didin't get a vibe that he could handle the film artistically.


Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:56 pm
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Yeah, I watched it. It was pretty much exactly what I thought it'd be - a lot of horror bashing. I loved how the Feast script was automatically labeled the "worst" of the three, even though i've personally read it and it's very good. I don't know what the hell Wes Craven was going on about. Go back and look at Cursed before you question other people's horror movies. Damon was pissing me off, too, with his artistry over money baloney. You know, this coming from the guy who just made Stuck On You. And like it's impossible for a horror movie to be both artistically and financially successful. I used to think the talk about Hollywood being biased against horror was untrue. Guess I was wrong.

Anywho, I think they picked the most artistically gifted director, but it's going to bite them in the ass when the film takes three years to get in the can. I also liked the "smart" one. Scott Smith was his name, I think. He had a lot of really cool ideas (the death score card was priceless). Something about the "eager" one just didin't click with me. I can't quite put my finger on it. I think he would have been the worst pick. I didin't get a vibe that he could handle the film artistically.


I actually liked Scott aka the smart one the most. I've worked in advertising (in Chicago just like Scott) and he seemed to really think outside the box. The scorecard was a pretty funny idea though it was done before in Hot Shots Part Duex.

If you have a link for any of the 3 screenplays, post away. :wink:


Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:13 pm
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http://www.weeklyscript.com/Feast%20-%2 ... 0Draft.txt

There's Feast.


Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:18 pm
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Wow.

Let me start by saying there's no way in hell Feast can be made for 2 million dollars. I don't even need to bother breaking down the script into shooting days and cost lines (Above/Below) to know that. It's not even close.

I'm curious how they'll work the SFX. The cast is HUGE. We aren't talking about atmosphere, these people have lines. On the plus side, locations are pretty limited. But damn, fire. Here's some fun info for you, anytime you introduce fire into your film, you are essentially adding an entire department.

The screenplay needs A LOT of work. The draft reads 5/04 so I know it's not the shooting script.


Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:15 pm
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I guess my biggest question is...

Did you like it?


Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:23 pm
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Hmmph.

I'll look at the script.

I still think Damon and Affleck are hacks, and it's semi-embarassing that their Oscar win validates their judgment and knowledge. Honestly. Affleck isn't a great actor, and what exactly has the duo done since Good Will Hunting (if they even wrote it)?

I've heard that the show was just a bunch of guys drinking, smoking, arguing, and cursing. Sounds great.

Maybe I'll tune in.


Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:32 pm
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makeshift wrote:
I guess my biggest question is...

Did you like it?


Yes and no.

It does have a great splatter joy to it (who kills kids nowadays?) and the monsters seem to have a nice edge.

I just don't think it's feasible within the parameters of Project Greenlight. I don't think Evil Dead or Cabin Fever were accurate comparisons. It reminds me more of From Dusk Til Dawn or Tales From the Crypt Demon Knight. I would rather see a nice polish of the screenplay and decent money thrown at this production.

The script is very weak and when combined with a temperamental director, I see a disaster in the making. But Project Greenlight should make for great television.


Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:33 pm
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
makeshift wrote:
I guess my biggest question is...

Did you like it?


Yes and no.

It does have a great splatter joy to it (who kills kids nowadays?) and the monsters seem to have a nice edge.

I just don't think it's feasible within the parameters of Project Greenlight. I don't think Evil Dead or Cabin Fever were accurate comparisons. It reminds me more of From Dusk Til Dawn or Tales From the Crypt Demon Knight. I would rather see a nice polish of the screenplay and decent money thrown at this production.

The script is very weak and when combined with a temperamental director, I see a disaster in the making. But Project Greenlight should make for great television.


I agree with everything you said. When one of the screenwriters last night said it was kind of like Evil Dead 2, I was thinking "Um, no. More like Demon Knight." However, Demon Knight isn't synonymous with successful indie horror like the Evil Dead trilogy is, so I can understand why he chose to make that comparison instead of something more honest.

Like you said, the budget is going to be a problem, too. This kind of film could be made, and made well, with a $15 million budget. Project Greenlight is $2 million, right? Eck. Huge problem.

I just don't think the script is as bad as Damon and Craven were trying to make it out to be. Is it right for the project? Probably not. Is it better then Cursed and most of what Damon's done? Absolutely.

As for the director, I agree that he was probably a bad choice. I can understand why they chose him, because his short film looked great, but that interview should have been a huge alarm to them. I really liked the Scott Smith guy, though. Seemed to have a clear idea of what he wanted to do with the film (more so than the eventual winner, for sure), and his short actually seemed quite good.


Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:52 pm
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Here's a link for anyone wanting to read up on the talent behind Feast.

http://projectgreenlight.liveplanet.com/pgl3/winners.jsp

Here are the screenplays that lost out to Feast.

http://projectgreenlight.liveplanet.com/pgl3/writer/top3.jsp

And the directors that lost out to John Gulager.

http://projectgreenlight.liveplanet.com/pgl3/director/top3.jsp


Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:10 pm
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What time is it on?


Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:29 pm
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Spiderman2005 wrote:
What time is it on?


New episodes are Tuesdays at 8 PM CST.

The season premiere repeats on Friday at 5 PM CST and Sunday at 11 AM CST.


Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:32 pm
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
Spiderman2005 wrote:
What time is it on?


New episodes are Tuesdays at 8 PM CST.

The season premiere repeats on Friday at 5 PM CST and Sunday at 11 AM CST.


Thanks. I will check it out.


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
makeshift wrote:
I guess my biggest question is...

Did you like it?


I just don't think it's feasible within the parameters of Project Greenlight. I don't think Evil Dead or Cabin Fever were accurate comparisons. It reminds me more of From Dusk Til Dawn or Tales From the Crypt Demon Knight. I would rather see a nice polish of the screenplay and decent money thrown at this production.


When I watched the show, when they described Feast, that's the movie I immediately thought of. I like the director they chose, just based on his short three minute film, but it's going to be interesting to see how he got through directing this film.

I looked for the movie at IMDB.com, and it says that the film is in post-production, so at least they got through most of the filming with him. How they did it on a budget with 2 million though, like you and makeshif said, I have no idea. That'll be fun to watch though.

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Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:33 am
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Here's a script review of Feast

http://screenwriting.ugo.com/reviews/feast_scriptreview.php

According to IMDB, Coach is no longer Greek (or so the casting would imply).


Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:19 am
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Wait, they changed the opening scene from the slaughter of hippies to the slaughter of girl scouts?

WOW, that's ballsy. Killing off one child in the middle of the film is bad enough.

There's a cinematic rule that killing small children, puppies, or kittens, turns the audience against the film, almost regardless of the context of the killings. There are a few exceptions to the rule but most people try to avoid those types of killings at all cost.

What kind of film will this be? :lol:


Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:56 pm
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New ep tonight - John is already scaring me. =D>


Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:16 pm
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=8891

It looks like the two runner up screenplays were optioned.


Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:09 am
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For a movie forum, I'm shocked that there isn't more interest in this show.


Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:05 pm
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
For a movie forum, I'm shocked that there isn't more interest in this show.


:lol:

Very true.

I watched it last night, and I gotta say that Gulager is insanely obnoxious. What's with the attitude towards the casting director? All these people are tying to do is help him make a better movie, but he's acting like they're all against him, trying to ruin his picture.

His god-daughter was terrible, too.

I also thought the head makeup artist was getting unnecessary shit from the big boss guy at Dimension. His ideas for the monsters were, in my opinion, pretty cool. The whole budget thing is stupid as hell, too. I mean, why did they pick Feast if they wanted a two million dollar movie? ](*,)


Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:20 pm
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Dimension is insane. If they want Feast to make money, I don't understand the point of shortchanging the production. SFX are expensive, not to mention the fact that they bulldozed everyone else into picking Feast instead of a cheaper screenplay.

I'm shocked that Gulager doesn't get fired during the entire process. If he's like this during preproduction, I can only imagine his demeanor during filming. I agree on the casting director and the make-up artist. When I read the script, I automatically thought of Bigfoot, which is closer to Gulager visions than the "alien" vision of the make-up artist. But still, he's one of the few people on the team who is actually coming up with ideas. Cut the brit a break.

It's so cool to see this film unfold. Unlike Stolen Summer and Shaker Heights, I actually want to see this movie.


Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:43 pm
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:2up:

Can't wait for tonight.


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Not alot of people check into this forum, and when they do, they stick to the ... well ... stickies ... try making a post in water cooler before the show comes on saying "Project greenlight New Episode ... on in blah blah ... discussion here: point to this thread ... have a mod lock your thread.


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John is insane.


Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:08 pm
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I didn't know that the new season had started yet until Monday night but two episodes had already aired by then and I wasn't going to watch if I couldn't see it from the beginning. Now there have been three episodes aired. I wanted to watch this season too because they were doing a horror movie with Wes Craven. Well, thankfully today at 1:00 (my time) they aired the three episodes again on Bravo so I was able to watch them.

Let me just say OH MY GOD!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....... :swear: The director they chose for this movie is the most annoying idiot and he gets under my skin so bad. He is supposed to be auditioning people and he doesn't give anyone a chance because he won't take anyone but his family for four of the parts. They made such a bad choice picking this director. I didn't like him from the start (from his meeting on) and knew right away they made a bad choice picking him. They should have went with the one guy that actually did a really good job at his meeting. He seemed to know what he was doing and they'd be much farther along if they would have went with him instead of this f-ing obnoxious prick! I hope he gets fired and that definitely seems possible. I don't ever want to see him work in Hollywood :swear:.

It's an interesting show but I hate this guy so much. He's not capable of having anyone but his family in it and if he doesn't have them it's like he'll do a shitty job with the movie. That's bull. He's only worked with his family before basically and he doesn't want to work with anyone else. Well, he's never going to make it if he can't work with anyone else and I sure hope this obnoxious, whiney SOB doesn't! God did he work me up :wink:.

Most of the people hate him. I don't see how this movie won't end up being a mess because first of all it was a script that most thought sucked or wasn't very good but Dimension wanted this one just because it had a chance to make the most money and was more marketable. So hardly anyone's heart is fully in it, and on top of that you have the most difficult director possible.

I'm glad it's a horror movie they're doing or I probably wouldn't be watching but this doesn't sound like a very good one. Not even Wes Craven, the master of horror, liked the script.

JESUS! I wanted to kill this guy so many times while watching this show!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Image


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