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What's Chippy's favorite math subject?

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zwackerm wrote:
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zwackerm wrote:
Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like

Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!

Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats.


The one where he tells 3 native-born women (who happen to be brown) to go back to the countries where they came from?

And the moron literally ran on a plank of "Make America Great Again."

The intention of the tweet was clearly to point out the supposed hypocrisy of their trying to fix America with socialist policy, not to express hatred for brown women.
But the socialist policies they want are the ones from Scandinavia and other European countries, not Latin America. It doesn’t make any sense, just plays on their heritage being different.


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But a hypocritical part of the Dems side is that saying “the migrants deserve a chance at a better life” is basically the same as saying “their countries are shitty and ours is better.” Then when Trump or another Pub says the unparaphrased version of that in defense of their case it is labeled racist immediately. I think that, though its unfair, worrying that immigrants will make our country more like the ones they are fleeing is a legitimate issue that people are concerned about and it could be addressed without calling everybody racist.

Trump is a racist though. :P Or is at least comfortable exploiting it for his own benefit. Not just because of the comment but the ranting and raving he’s done to defend himself in the time since. And a lot of other things he’s said...


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Should Trump heed his own advice?

American entities that Trump has complained about or railed against (so far):

US courts, the FBI, the Federal Reserve, US Congress, former US presidents, some US judges, some current US laws, some US veterans...


He also openly praised North Korea's dictator Kim Jong-Un, whose regime has had severe human rights violations against US citizens, not to mention its own citizens. Remember NK's treatment of late Otto Warmbier?

A lot more examples where he praised other countries while criticizing the US:





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Two weeks after taking office, Trump sat down for an interview in which he was reminded that Russian President Vladimir Putin is “a killer.” Trump replied, “There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent?

Indeed, he hasn’t exactly been subtle on this point. In December 2015, then-candidate Trump was asked about Putin’s habit of invading countries and killing critics. “He’s running his country, and at least he’s a leader,” Trump replied, “unlike what we have in this country.” Reminded that Putin has been accused of ordering the murder of critics and journalists, Trump added, “Well, I think our country does plenty of killing also.

In a July 2016 interview with the New York Times, the Republican went on to argue that the United States lacks the moral authority to lead, because we’re just not a good enough country to command respect abroad. “When the world looks at how bad the United States is, and then we go and talk about civil liberties, I don’t think we’re a very good messenger,” he said.


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-wrong-messenger-trump-targets-those-who-speak-badly-the-us


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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Jiffy wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like

Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!

Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats.


The one where he tells 3 native-born women (who happen to be brown) to go back to the countries where they came from?

And the moron literally ran on a plank of "Make America Great Again."

The intention of the tweet was clearly to point out the supposed hypocrisy of their trying to fix America with socialist policy, not to express hatred for brown women.
But the socialist policies they want are the ones from Scandinavia and other European countries, not Latin America. It doesn’t make any sense, just plays on their heritage being different.

Those countries can afford those policies because they don’t spend what we do on military and defending half the world.


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zwackerm wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Jiffy wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like

Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!

Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats.


The one where he tells 3 native-born women (who happen to be brown) to go back to the countries where they came from?

And the moron literally ran on a plank of "Make America Great Again."

The intention of the tweet was clearly to point out the supposed hypocrisy of their trying to fix America with socialist policy, not to express hatred for brown women.
But the socialist policies they want are the ones from Scandinavia and other European countries, not Latin America. It doesn’t make any sense, just plays on their heritage being different.

Those countries can afford those policies because they don’t spend what we do on military and defending half the world.


Part of that spending is to secure "free trade" for the US and allies. There is a trade-off.

Maybe time to cut down on the military industrial complex?


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I honestly don't give a shit. Your opinion means nothing to me. No person with a conscience voted for Trump in 2016. We knew he had raped/sexually assaulted multiple women. We knew he was a racist. We knew he was a shitty businessman. Yet... you voted for him. Which means you were OK with what he's done. You can't claim ignorance.


:thumbsup:

Anyone bending over backwards (like quite a few people in this thread--Christians, no doubt!) to explain what POSOTUS meant by his latest bullshit and why it isn't actually racist is just fooling themselves. There aren't shades of meaning with this idiot, he's a garbage person who's managed to fail upwards his whole life--that's what being born a straight, white, rich, celebrity, asshole in America gets you.

Just as there's no educating a dipshit about how all religions are nonsense garbage, there is no educating anyone who still supports him--they like what they see, simple as that. Anything in the name of dragging this country back to the good ol' days when only straight white christian men mattered.

Seriously, though, the last several years have legit lead me to being a racist myself--I do not have nice thoughts about old white people ;) They are absolutely part ofthe problem and the US would be better off if they all decided to walk into the ocean together.


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zwackerm wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Jiffy wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like

Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!

Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats.


The one where he tells 3 native-born women (who happen to be brown) to go back to the countries where they came from?

And the moron literally ran on a plank of "Make America Great Again."

The intention of the tweet was clearly to point out the supposed hypocrisy of their trying to fix America with socialist policy, not to express hatred for brown women.
But the socialist policies they want are the ones from Scandinavia and other European countries, not Latin America. It doesn’t make any sense, just plays on their heritage being different.

Those countries can afford those policies because they don’t spend what we do on military and defending half the world.
Oh I wasn’t arguing in favor of them. They can afford them because barely anybody (relatively) lives there. If India could pull it off it’d be another story. We can use them as inspiration though.

The point of my post was that Trump was only using those failed Spanish socialist governments as examples because the target of his attack was also Spanish. If her named Alexandea Ocasovic he wouldn’t have.


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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Jiffy wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like

Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!

Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats.


The one where he tells 3 native-born women (who happen to be brown) to go back to the countries where they came from?

And the moron literally ran on a plank of "Make America Great Again."

The intention of the tweet was clearly to point out the supposed hypocrisy of their trying to fix America with socialist policy, not to express hatred for brown women.
But the socialist policies they want are the ones from Scandinavia and other European countries, not Latin America. It doesn’t make any sense, just plays on their heritage being different.

Those countries can afford those policies because they don’t spend what we do on military and defending half the world.
Oh I wasn’t arguing in favor of them. They can afford them because barely anybody (relatively) lives there. If India could pull it off it’d be another story. We can use them as inspiration though.

The point of my post was that Trump was only using those failed Spanish socialist governments as examples because the target of his attack was also Spanish. If her named Alexandea Ocasovic he wouldn’t have.


Correction: Spanish speaking socialist governments and the target is also Spanish speaking, but not just Spanish. The way you worded it makes it sound like she is from Spain.
Same sentence substituting Spanish for English would also be wrong, as the British wouldn't also appreciate the honor of someone saying AOC is from the UK. They already have enough morons over there.

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I do that on purpose. #ShareTheBurden :)


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He didn't say who the tweet was about so it could have been real people in congress from another country not AOC and co. But he is an obvious racist trash bag either way. I mean he was a birther

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He didn't say who the tweet was about so it could have been real people in congress from another country not AOC and co. But he is an obvious racist trash bag either way. I mean he was a birther


Oh give me a break. He specified the "progressive democrat congresswomen". He watches fox news 24/7, who are fucking obsessed with Omar/AOC.

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Oh I wasn’t arguing in favor of them. They can afford them because barely anybody (relatively) lives there. If India could pull it off it’d be another story. We can use them as inspiration though.



Canada, Germany, Japan, and the UK are populated countries and each has some form of universal healthcare system with public insurance. Their systems are more cost-saving than the US partly due to economies of scale. They reduce overhead expenses by cutting down the middlemen and streamlining the link between healthcare providers and patients.


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Hope everyone enjoyed the klan rally tonight.

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Son: Hey Dad, why is every news calling Trump racist again?

Dad: Clinton got caught taking several trips to a pedophile's private island.

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Malcolm wrote:
Chippy wrote:
I honestly don't give a shit. Your opinion means nothing to me. No person with a conscience voted for Trump in 2016. We knew he had raped/sexually assaulted multiple women. We knew he was a racist. We knew he was a shitty businessman. Yet... you voted for him. Which means you were OK with what he's done. You can't claim ignorance.


:thumbsup:

Anyone bending over backwards (like quite a few people in this thread--Christians, no doubt!) to explain what POSOTUS meant by his latest bullshit and why it isn't actually racist is just fooling themselves. There aren't shades of meaning with this idiot, he's a garbage person who's managed to fail upwards his whole life--that's what being born a straight, white, rich, celebrity, asshole in America gets you.

Just as there's no educating a dipshit about how all religions are nonsense garbage, there is no educating anyone who still supports him--they like what they see, simple as that. Anything in the name of dragging this country back to the good ol' days when only straight white christian men mattered.

Seriously, though, the last several years have legit lead me to being a racist myself--I do not have nice thoughts about old white people ;) They are absolutely part ofthe problem and the US would be better off if they all decided to walk into the ocean together.


Love this post. Every single issue really boils down to old white dudes who are scared of anyone except them having power over all. And the younger white dudes who know they'll be old white dudes someday and maybe not have the same power and it scares them. And then women and POC who, for some reason, think it's better when old white dudes have all the power.

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Price wrote:
Son: Hey Dad, why is every news calling Trump racist again?

Dad: Clinton got caught taking several trips to a pedophile's private island.


Cool? Arrest his fucking ass.

Dad avoiding the question again, because dad is also a racist.

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After looking closer... The left is defending Omar almost entirely based on the color of her skin, and Trump is criticizing her based on her words. So how is this about how racist Trump is?

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I'll defend every policy of hers. You hate 9/11 first responders? You hate immigrants? You hate a minimum wage increase?

Which policy of hers do you think is racist?

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I'll defend every policy of hers. You hate 9/11 first responders? You hate immigrants? You hate a minimum wage increase?

Which policy of hers do you think is racist?


I'm saying the real reason Trump is attacking Omar and AOC is he thinks they're Islam and communist respectively and therefore he believes they hate and want to change what America stands for. Islam violates nearly all the American amendments and AOC if she had her way would upend capitalism

You can claim that Trump is still bigoted for being an Islamophobe or he's going too far with his characterization of AOC as a communist. But whether Islamophobia is justified is more complicated than just saying orange man is racist and wants brown people to go back to their country. The people making everything about skin colour are the left again and again

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"These people are defending people of color! They're the TRUE racists!"

You're the galaxy brain meme.

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Also, his crowd, which he riled up, was chanting "send her back". Like... the fuck? How can anyone say that's not racist? What a joke.

Also, capitalism is a joke. You can't have free market capitalism, it destroys lives. It's literally killing the planet, and you know who dies first? The poor. Third world nations. Coincidentally, those countries just happen to be filled with people of color.

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I agree that capitalism has flaws and many but...

What kind of governments do most third world nations have? Socialist and communist ones.
Which nations did absolutely nothing to fight against pollution? The ones with socialist and communist governments. In Europe that was clearly visible after the fall of the Iron Curtain.
Which nations are the ones that kill most of there own inhabitants? The former USSR, Cambodia, Rwanda, Eritrea, ... Hmmmm, hardly capitalistic at all.
People that abandon their countries are usually from nations with what type of governments? I think you can fill the blanks now.
And which nation is the one that most of them try to enter? The most capitalistic one.
So don't go all hyperbolic because it makes you look even more like a tin foil hat wearer.

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Ahh yes, the idiot returns.

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