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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Jack Sparrow wrote: Algren wrote: I do not see any Chinese film reaching $1 billion worldwide. Wolf Warriors 2, their highest-grossing film of all-time, could only reach $870 million. American movies have made billions before. Seems silly to predict that a Chinese one will make it when one never has before, and when you have completely no idea of the films that will be released. The whole conversation started because of this sentence. You cannot say that one hasn't even made before so no movie will ever make it. Your prediction here is basically the same as saying "well, this country is a growing market, it has to get a $1 billion movie eventually!". Sorry if I don't appreciate your predictive ability with this type of silly statement. Now, if you had said "Movie A has a good chance because of such and such..." then I'd view it with more respect.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Algren wrote: Your prediction here is basically the same as saying "well, this country is a growing market, it has to get a $1 billion movie eventually!". Sorry if I don't appreciate your predictive ability with this type of silly statement. Now, if you had said "Movie A has a good chance because of such and such..." then I'd view it with more respect. Its a prediction and its not anymore sillier than your "this looks shit so it will open lower than what the tracking suggests".
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:54 am |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
I never said my predictions were golden. Stop changing the subject.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:04 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
I've never said my predictions were golden as well but it doesn't change the fact that they are predictions. Stop calling other predictions silly because you disagree with the logic of arriving on those.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:11 am |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
No. They are silly, and you need to know that.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:22 am |
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stuffp
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
There really is no precedent for a Chinese film grossing $900m or more next year, or the year after. Well im thinking Avatar 2 could have the potential to gross that here alone, not sure when that'll come out.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:43 am |
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Flava'd vs The World
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23775 Location: Classified
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Well, with Crazy Rich Asians breaking out, is it possible that China finally releases a movie that Americans like?
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:11 am |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Avatar 2 is coming out between 2025 and never.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:12 am |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Flava'd vs The World wrote: Well, with Crazy Rich Asians breaking out, is it possible that China finally releases a movie that Americans like? Probably not because all Chinese movies are in Mandarin.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:13 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Algren wrote: No. They are silly, and you need to know that. They are predictions. The only thing silly is that you want to fight for no reason.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:15 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
stuffp wrote: There really is no precedent for a Chinese film grossing $900m or more next year, or the year after. Well im thinking Avatar 2 could have the potential to gross that here alone, not sure when that'll come out. And there was no precedent a year before of $870m movie in any OS market. So what's your point?
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:17 pm |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Jack Sparrow wrote: And there was no precedent a year before of $870m movie in any OS market. So what's your point? Correction: It made $854m in China. The point is - if you are wrong about something, that needs to be addressed. Just like when I am wrong about something - you can bet your life another member will correct me. And I'm thankful they do. Truth should always prevail.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:02 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Apologies there was no precedent for $854m before last year in any OS market. Now stuffs please make a point
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:02 pm |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Correct. There was no precedent for it. So, are you now saying that your prediction is based on ... a freak box office performance???
Jesus. If I had little respect for your ability before, I have zero now.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:23 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Good for you. I'm not looking for your respect. The point still stands. It happened before a precedent so why not now?
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:42 pm |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Hoping for another fluke. Good luck.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:26 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Fluke for you prediction for me. Maybe I will also get one wrong
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:29 pm |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
but mean Maybe it's know highly you what I unlikely.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:30 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
I think after that gibberish (or possibly something serene that I didn't understand) its time to end this conversation.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:38 pm |
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lilmac
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
I don’t see Wonder Woman 2 making $180m more than the first. The first film was well loved and everybody who saw it went and saw it. There aren’t masses of fans who became fans off of the home video. Same audience for the first.
Aladdin is no Lion King. Not popular enough for $1 billion.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:53 pm |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Jack Sparrow wrote: I think after that gibberish (or possibly something serene that I didn't understand) its time to end this conversation. I was just writing in a style I thought you would understand.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:54 pm |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
lilmac wrote: I don’t see Wonder Woman 2 making $180m more than the first. The first film was well loved and everybody who saw it went and saw it. There aren’t masses of fans who became fans off of the home video. Same audience for the first. Or less of an audience because the #IWillSupportMyFellowWomen angle is knackered.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:55 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Agreed on Wonder Woman its going to decline now that MCU also will have a solo female superhero movie in the market. The novelty is no longer there.
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:03 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
Algren wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: I think after that gibberish (or possibly something serene that I didn't understand) its time to end this conversation. I was just writing in a style I thought you would understand. Bad thinking!!
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:04 am |
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Algren
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Re: $1b movies of 2019
No thread for this yet so I'll put it in here. Pretty standard teaser poster for it, but I still like it.
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:58 pm |
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