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Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
The left is the one acting on emotion instead of reason right now, and that' usually when the danger of unhinged things start happening
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:13 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Ahh yes, reason. Politely asking a mouthpiece for a pretend dictator to not eat at your restaurant because your staff feels uncomfortable vs sending death threats to the wrong restaurant and spreading child sex trafficking conspiracy theories.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:15 pm |
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Groucho
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Shack wrote: The left is the one acting on emotion instead of reason right now, and that' usually when the danger of unhinged things start happening Standing up to nazis isn't reasonable?
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I am all for civil discourse, and I do agree the Left is only contributing to the divide in this country, but the GOP under Trump IS slipping further and further into Facism with its border policies and mercantilistic trade policies that we were told both those who are rational on the right was not going to happen
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:04 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: Shack wrote: The left is the one acting on emotion instead of reason right now, and that' usually when the danger of unhinged things start happening Standing up to nazis isn't reasonable? Trump and Sanders have nothing to do with Nazis
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:10 pm |
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Groucho
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Shack wrote: Groucho wrote: Shack wrote: The left is the one acting on emotion instead of reason right now, and that' usually when the danger of unhinged things start happening Standing up to nazis isn't reasonable? Trump and Sanders have nothing to do with Nazis Standing up to people who are slightly less than nazis isn't reasonable? You're arguing terms here, when the real point is this: These terrible people are doing evil things and should be stopped. Making them think we agree is making us part of the problem. You don't stop evil by letting it continue.
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Funny that Shack thinks the Nazis were always what they ended up. You do realize they started VERY similar to this, right? They were still Nazis then.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:30 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: Shack wrote: Groucho wrote: Shack wrote: The left is the one acting on emotion instead of reason right now, and that' usually when the danger of unhinged things start happening Standing up to nazis isn't reasonable? Trump and Sanders have nothing to do with Nazis Standing up to people who are slightly less than nazis isn't reasonable? You're arguing terms here, when the real point is this: These terrible people are doing evil things and should be stopped. Making them think we agree is making us part of the problem. You don't stop evil by letting it continue. Slightly less than Nazis? LMAO
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Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: Funny that Shack thinks the Nazis were always what they ended up. You do realize they started VERY similar to this, right? They were still Nazis then. Neither is close to the Nazis and it's counterproductive to compare them to them. I could just as easily make a comparison between what's going on with rising extremism of the left right now and the Nazis. Say the next president was Democrat and one thing leads to another and Trump supporters get their rights stripped and end up in concentration camps. The people go ok with it cause the Trump side is the bad guys right. They're saving the world by locking them up. Doesn't sound much more far fetched than the other way around. And if you think comparing Nazis to the left is crazy, there's a reason it's called national socialism. No Hitler didn't follow through with socialist policies once he manipulated the people into giving him power, but his rise in popularity was based on socialist rhetoric and spreading the wealth and blaming the Jews for controlling the wealth in the same way Bernie does Wall Street
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Holy fuck. Are you actually reading what you're typing? You do realize that people that have STUDIED NAZIS have said what this Administration (and their followers) are doing, is extremely similar to what the Nazis did when rising to power?
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:08 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: Holy fuck. Are you actually reading what you're typing? You do realize that people that have STUDIED NAZIS have said what this Administration (and their followers) are doing, is extremely similar to what the Nazis did when rising to power? By people do you mean extreme leftists who want you to read their twitter essays? Then yes
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:14 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Shack thinks this is normal:
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:17 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Shack wrote: Chippy wrote: Holy fuck. Are you actually reading what you're typing? You do realize that people that have STUDIED NAZIS have said what this Administration (and their followers) are doing, is extremely similar to what the Nazis did when rising to power? By people do you mean extreme leftists who want you to read their twitter essays? Then yes
By extreme left, I assume you mean "educated professors".
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:20 pm |
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Shack
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I understand it's easy to look at the immigration detention centers and go "Fuck! Concentration camps! They are nazis" but some context is needed. The adults are in detention cause they are in jail. This creates a problem since you can't send the kids to jail, so they have to be separated. There's no great solution at that point other than improving the conditions compared to what there is now. The question is then whether the adults should be held in jail while waiting for their court cause, or be free enough to stay with their families. I don't have a problem with people believing jail is too harsh, but the argument in favor of it is acting as a deterrent, so it is complicated. In any case between that and Trump inheriting this from previous presidents including Obama, there is a lot more here than just the bad guy doing bad things.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:37 pm |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
This is no longer relevant to the conversation, but the Republican Party wants to allow businesses their own judgment in dealing with bathrooms, not to deny trans people the right to use their bathroom. Governments do not need to be involved in bathrooms.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:48 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Right, that's why they're still passing laws banning transgender people to use their correct bathroom.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:59 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
The GOP wants to pass laws that govern your personal life, the DEMs want to pass laws that govern your financial situation. Trump wants to do both
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:10 pm |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Chippy wrote: Right, that's why they're still passing laws banning transgender people to use their correct bathroom. They have not done that. All they did was roll back regulation. You can use any bathroom you want in America as long as you don’t make a big deal about it.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:02 pm |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: The GOP wants to pass laws that govern your personal life. Besides being pro life, which could still be argued is not personal, this is not true.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:03 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
lol, lord you're still so naive. maybe some day you'll grow up
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:07 pm |
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Algren
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Being an asshole by choice again, I see.
He's 20. He's allowed to be naive. Leave him alone.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:20 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I'm aware. That's why I said some day.
And no, if zwackerm owned a restaurant I wouldn't be mad if he refused to serve me.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:23 pm |
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zwackerm
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I’d serve anyone if I owned a restaurant.
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Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:08 pm |
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Chippy
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
You heard it here first: zwackerm would serve Hitler if he owned a restaurant.
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Jmart
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
At least Hitler would probably tip very well.
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