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Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48626 Location: Arlington, VA
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Shack wrote: Well this is starting to get horrifying Starting?
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Shack wrote: It doesn't mean Trump is going to be a psycho like president Pence or Cruz would be. Shack wrote: It was a great speech by Donald, probably his best. Liberals are more interested in division than Trump right now. shut the fuck up shack
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:58 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 38240
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
The first quote was referring specifically to Trump's views on homosexuality, and I stand by the second, just because he gave a good speech and doesn't want to divide people doesn't mean he's doing a good job
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:06 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Rand Paul has an alternative to Obamacare.
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:00 pm |
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Groucho
Extraordinary
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
zwackerm wrote: Rand Paul has an alternative to Obamacare. Does it make his campaign contributors richer? Just asking, because that's usually what his alternatives are about.
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:03 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Rand Paul has an alternative to Obamacare. Does it make his campaign contributors richer? Just asking, because that's usually what his alternatives are about. I don't know.
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Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:43 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32128 Location: the last free city
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:36 am |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Rand Paul has an alternative to Obamacare. Does it make his campaign contributors richer? Just asking, because that's usually what his alternatives are about. Corporate donations typically go to Democrats and Hillary dominated Trump in overall contributions. But do carry on.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:15 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Rand Paul has an alternative to Obamacare. Does it make his campaign contributors richer? Just asking, because that's usually what his alternatives are about. Corporate donations typically go to Democrats and Hillary dominated Trump in overall contributions. But do carry on.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:24 pm |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Not sure of your point. I hate Trump and think he is a left-wing dildo. I also hate Carter. I did not vote for Trump.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:27 pm |
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Rand Paul has an alternative to Obamacare. Does it make his campaign contributors richer? Just asking, because that's usually what his alternatives are about. Corporate donations typically go to Democrats and Hillary dominated Trump in overall contributions. But do carry on. I was talking specifically about Rand Paul.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:07 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11064 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Cauis, what is your definition of left-wing?
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:42 pm |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Cauis, what is your definition of left-wing? In the American parlance, Against free flow of goods, Against social security reform, more state intervention into the economy, free speech restrictions, anti-federalism, single payer health care, and pro abortion are some of the top positions for which Trump agrees, lack of respect for historical institutions, and favorable to massive infrastructure spending, favorable to paid maternity leave, etc. He doesn't get on board with all the social justice warrior elements and he is admittedly stupid so who knows what his true beliefs are and he is paying pro life lip service now but is about as pro life as Obama was against gay marriage in 2008. He does take some conservative positions on law and order (but see his anti Federalist sentiments regarding Chicago), pro Military (albeit not an interventionist), and he does love America, and seems somewhat interested in regulatory reform and immigration.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:30 am |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48626 Location: Arlington, VA
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
I am sick to my stomach over the immigration executive order he signed today. The man (our president ) goes against everything America should stand for.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:24 am |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Libs wrote: I am sick to my stomach over the immigration executive order he signed today. The man (our president ) goes against everything America should stand for. I think the EO is perhaps unconstitutional but what say you about the religious liberty related to not being forced to bake cakes?
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:22 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20418 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
If it were to work, it might be worth it. But I highly doubt extreme "vetting" of refugees is going to catch terrorists, and in the meantime, it's making them feel like shit.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:25 am |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Ok USA and Russia make politics and war in the Arab countries and Europe has to deal with the humanitarian fallout.......uhmmm fuck you!
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:10 pm |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Now as a US-Citizen you can no longer travel to Iran!
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:13 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11064 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Cauis, not sure if that defines left-wing politics so much as it defines political stances you disagree with.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:28 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
How long until we start seeing retaliation? I am actually scared to go out into public now. We are on a legit path to facism.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:31 pm |
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Who do these immigrants think they are, anyway? I mean, it's not like we have some sort of national symbol calling for your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:36 pm |
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: Libs wrote: I am sick to my stomach over the immigration executive order he signed today. The man (our president ) goes against everything America should stand for. I think the EO is perhaps unconstitutional but what say you about the religious liberty related to not being forced to bake cakes? Oh Jesus not the fucking baking cakes thing again.
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:37 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11064 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Large Tech companies are speaking out
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:58 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11064 Location: Wouldn't you like to know
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Large Tech companies are speaking out
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Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:58 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48626 Location: Arlington, VA
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Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas
Caius wrote: Libs wrote: I am sick to my stomach over the immigration executive order he signed today. The man (our president ) goes against everything America should stand for. I think the EO is perhaps unconstitutional but what say you about the religious liberty related to not being forced to bake cakes? I don't understand why you're bringing up cakes right now. At the moment, who cares? We never far more pressing issues. Like that fascist piece of crap banning actual Americans with green cards from returning to their own country because of their religion and skin color.
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