I'm not condoning the actions of the mob, but your comments come off as ignorant. It's as if you believe that revolution and change happen because people asked nicely. Open a history book.

I really want to see lethal force as a last resort. I think by default police officers should carry guns with rubber bullets, and I think extensive training should be required to carry an actual firearm. Most violent situations should be handled by specialized forces such as SWAT, and during the infrequent encounter with a violent criminal, police officers should be trained to de-escalate, apply surveillance, and let backup arrive.

I recognized a couple of the places that went up in flames last night. Just a real shame these whole events have been in general and to have it happen so close to my hometown.

He's the "victim" because multiple "witnesses" claim he was either walking away and was shot in the back or claim he had his hands up trying to turn himself in. Of course, that's all been proven to be false, many of these so-called witnesses weren't even at the scene when it happened. Yet, none will be charged with a crime, none of the looters will be charged with a crime and the tax payers will be sending billions of dollars to Ferguson to rebuild it. Meanwhile, the officer, who's been vindicated and was just doing his job has a bounty on his head and can't go in public ever again.

No, it does not come off as ignorant. I certainly hope you are not defending the low life pieces of trash rioting (not the protesters) , looting and destroying the property of innocent Americans. I'd like to say this issue isn't about race but it is. And the real racists are those on the street using the excuse of a dead kid (not murdered) to act like animals and tear apart their own community and steal from undeserving citizens, store owners and businesses of the area. I wouldn't venture to guess what overwhelming percentage of those morons couldn't care less about the life lost. Of course they aren't going to let those pesky facts of innocence on behalf of the officer stand in their way of getting a new TV and a chance to break their neighbors window.


Perhaps you should open a history book.

Wonder why this was not discussed. Like. AT ALL, in the media?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... utah-case/

It's funny how you think only Ferguson is rioting over this.

Probably the same reason millions of other deaths "aren't discussed in the media".
Not every story can make national news.

Oh boy, I could try, I kind of want to, but I get the feeling that you're hopeless.

I love your closing comment by the way. You spend two paragraphs angry at the protesters who are hurting innocent Americans, then tell me to open a history book, a reference to my comment to you. Did I miss the transition? My comment about history was in relation to the fact that over the years, there are numerous examples of how violent protest elicits change (and many examples where non-violent protest does as well). This whole country was founded on the back of a violent protest against the mother country (see Boston Tea Party).

In any event, you clearly lack the ability or desire to deeply understand the issues at play here. The words you use (animals, reverse racism, vindicated, doing his job, proven false, etc) outline a seeping anger and blind eye that show there's no point in having a discussion with you. Rational thought is not in your future on this issue.

Oh, and as I said, I don't condone the actions of the mob wrecking Ferguson, but I can empathize with them on some level.

As to the story of Dillon Taylor, it once again proves my point about the state of police in this country. The reason it doesn't get as much play is because a dead white man doesn't elicit the same reminder of socioeconomic inequality and oppression. It's really not hard to figure out.

White people do not protect other white people over race the way black people do other black people. Only evidence you need. My fellow Black men are much more racist on average than the fellow white men.

Casey Anthony clearly murdered her daughter and white people took her to the stakes. OJ Simpson mauled his ex wife and black people rejoiced at his innocence.

White people don't feel the insecurity some black people do so they do not make a big deal out of race.

No shit.

White people also aren't currently oppressed, and were never enslaved by black people. I imagine that if they were, things might be different. Instead, many white people spend their time being angry that black people are STILL harping on this whole oppression / slavery thing when they weren't even alive. (see lovemerox)

Nice deflection on my first point...care to try again and address that? Nah?

Ok, I am "hopeless", such a blanket statement thrown at those who think what is currently happening is ridiculous.

Your comment "In any event, you clearly lack the ability or desire to deeply understand the issues at play here. The words you use (animals, reverse racism, vindicated, doing his job, proven false, etc) outline a seeping anger and blind eye that show there's no point in having a discussion with you. Rational thought is not in your future on this issue." is ridiculous and basically a way for you to tag out of the debate. You try and paint me as racist because of the terms I use? If it were WHITE PEOPLE looting and setting stuff on fire I would be saying the same thing.

Boston Tea party? Really? Is that your argument here? The Boston Tea party?

I possess plenty of rational though on the issue at hand. Do you? Why do you claim I do not? Because I disagree with what is happening? You want to call me racist(at least you were subtle) because I use the term "animals" because I am referencing blacks. Well, if it were white people, or Asians, or green people they would be ANIMALS as well. Just because they happen to be black does not mean using the term "animals" is racist. It would be foolish to think otherwise.

I will save you the trouble though, there is no point in myself having this discussion with you, because as soon as you are "tested" on your points...you start to throw subtle jabs at my intelligence and insinuate that I am a racist. Bravo sir. This is why there is never any common ground among anyone. Instead of LAMBASTING the rioters like we should be doing, you say we should empathize with them? Then those of us who don't...and call them on their shit...are racist? or " do not have rational thought" Really? lol

Throwing out the race card immediately. It is really a sad attempt at making your point.

White flag though. You win.

The point is still valid. We need to call out and dismantle racism anywhere we see it but that means we need to call us black people out when they pull shit like OJ Simpson.

It's not "kkk hating blacks" type racism, but it is still racism in the sense that race is the deciding factor in a choice.

Well, you are a racist. So... Yeah. Eagle wins. Easily.

False. Stop taking the extreme. I never said that. Is this how you prove your point? Making stuff up and inserting my name? Because NONE of what you said is true. We are talking about the events in Missouri. But now that you have said this, and put it in writing it shines a light on me that makes me look racist, or like and angry white guy who doesnt understand blacks frustrations in our judicial system...or life in general. Again. NONE of what you just said is true.

I really respect you as an admin, and I think its great what you do for the forum here but you should shy away from debates or discussions such as this because it seems as if you are very much ill equipped. Your "strategy" of proving your point is sophomoric and reminds me of what 20 year olds did on forums and blogs 10 years ago.

I respect your opinion, although I disagree.

Ahh, irony.

If Groucho was here, he would've wiped the floor with you even worse than what Eagle did.

Right? This thread is full of irony today

A) You made a first point? The fact that you believe Brown wasn't a victim? That's not a point, it's an opinion.
B) It absolutly is me tagging out, this isn't a debate, it's an argument, and I'm not intersted in listening to you yell.
C) What do you have against the Boston Tea Party? Oh, you probably don't like that they ruined the property of businesses in the area and tore apart their own community.
D) I never called you a racist, but I do believe you enjoy a good sterotype.
E) When a large amount of people get angry enough to try and destroy a town, we should probably ask ourselves what pushed them to that point. I've never said I agreed with their actions, I've said there are undercurrents here you are missing.

The opinions you've expressed lead me to believe that you have little or no interest in the history black men and women in our nation. You seem keenly focused on the micro actions taking place in Ferguson, ignoring the reasoning behind WHY they're happening. I was lightheartedly poking fun at the general tone of your comments, which is why your name was 'inserted'. Maybe you don't realize that's the vibe your diatribe gives off, but it certainly is the response it got from me. If you don't like the response, perhaps rethink your exposition?