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Mr. R
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David
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This is odd. Quote: Jews in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk where pro-Russian militants have taken over government buildings were told they have to "register" with the Ukrainians who are trying to make the city become part of Russia, according to Ukrainian and Israeli media.
Jews emerging from a synagogue say they were handed leaflets that ordered the city's Jews to provide a list of property they own and pay a registration fee "or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportation and see their assets confiscated," reported Ynet News, Israel's largest news website.
Donetsk is the site of an "anti-terrorist" operation by the Ukraine government, which has moved military columns into the region to force out militants who are demanding a referendum be held on joining Russia. The news was carried first by the Ukraine's Donbass news agency.
The leaflets bore the name of Denis Pushilin, who identified himself as chairman of "Donetsk's temporary government," and were distributed near the Donetsk synagogue and other areas, according to the reports.
Pushilin acknowledged that fliers were distributed under his organization's name in Donetsk but denied any connection to them, Ynet reported in Hebrew.
Emanuel Shechter, in Israel, told Ynet his friends in Donetsk sent him a copy of the leaflet through social media.
"They told me that masked men were waiting for Jewish people after the Passover eve prayer, handed them the flier and told them to obey its instructions," he said.
The leaflet begins, "Dear Ukraine citizens of Jewish nationality," and states that all people of Jewish descent over 16 years old must report to the Commissioner for Nationalities in the Donetsk Regional Administration building and "register."
It says the reason is because the leaders of the Jewish community of Ukraine supported Bendery Junta, a reference to Stepan Bandera, the leader of the Ukrainian nationalist movement that fought for Ukrainian independence at the end of World War II, "and oppose the pro-Slavic People's Republic of Donetsk," a name adopted by the militant leadership.
The leaflet then described which documents Jews should provide: "ID and passport are required to register your Jewish religion, religious documents of family members, as well as documents establishing the rights to all real estate property that belongs to you, including vehicles."
Consequences for non-compliance will result in citizenship being revoked "and you will be forced outside the country with a confiscation of property." A registration fee of $50 would be required, it said. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... e/7816951/
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Chippy
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Sieg Heil!
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Krem
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It seems to be BS - as in the people who supposedly signed this leaflet are denying that it's their work.
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Krem
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Vice journalist Simon Ostrovsky being held by pro-Russian gunmenThe "reason" that the separatists are using for detaining him? He's suspected of bad activities and being an informant for the Right Sector. Just think about it for a second - a journalist is suspected of being an informant.
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Krem
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Simon Ostrovsky has been freed, but the turmoil continues.
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Mr. R
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FILMO
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Joe Bidens son is now working for the Ukraine Gas Company? THE FUCK? THE FUCK?
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Krem
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FILMO wrote: Joe Bidens son is now working for the Ukraine Gas Company? THE FUCK? THE FUCK? While a questionable move, it is a private company, and Hunter Biden is not a government official, and is allowed to work where he wants. He previously worked for MBNA (full disclosure, I also used to work for them), which arguably was a much bigger conflict of interest, since it was located in Delaware, where the Bidens are quite a force.
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Mr. R
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Mr. R
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Krem
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After months of pretending that Russia is not waging a war on Ukraine, the U.S. finally put in place some real economic sanctions against Russia: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/17/world ... .html?_r=0
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What now, Mr. R, assuming early reports about the Malaysian Air flight being shot down are true?
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Krem
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Caius wrote: What now, Mr. R, assuming early reports about the Malaysian Air flight being shot down are true? If you don't think the Russian media has already spun it in order to blame Ukraine, you are sorely mistaken. Here's what's been reported on Russian TV so far today: 1. The plane was brought down by a Ukrainian jet (that's a lie, it was brought down by a surface-to-air missile) 2. The original target was Putin's plane, which traveled close to this area within minutes of the missile strike (another lie) 3. Pro-Russian separatists do not possess surface-to-air missiles (another lie, the separatists themselves have bragging about stockpiling those and bringing down Ukrainian planes for weeks) There have even been suggestions that it was the U.S. that shot down the plane. Russian propaganda machine is disgusting, but it's what's keeping this war going. But you can't hide from the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnuHxAR ... e=youtu.be
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Dr. Lecter
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Not suggesting that it was not shot down by separatists, but I am wary about trusting some random audio recording online.
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Krem
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Not suggesting that it was not shot down by separatists, but I am wary about trusting some random audio recording online. It's not a random video; it was intercepted and released by the Ukrainian Government Security Forces. The original is here: http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/uk/pu ... t_id=39574
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Algren
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Rambo would sort those pesky Russians out!
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Dr. Lecter
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Krem wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Not suggesting that it was not shot down by separatists, but I am wary about trusting some random audio recording online. It's not a random video; it was intercepted and released by the Ukrainian Government Security Forces. The original is here: http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/uk/pu ... t_id=39574Nonetheless, in a war liek this and with today's technology, I don't trust anything until it has been confirmed by independent sources (i. e. not Russian or Ukrainian).
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Krem
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Krem wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Not suggesting that it was not shot down by separatists, but I am wary about trusting some random audio recording online. It's not a random video; it was intercepted and released by the Ukrainian Government Security Forces. The original is here: http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/uk/pu ... t_id=39574Nonetheless, in a war liek this and with today's technology, I don't trust anything until it has been confirmed by independent sources (i. e. not Russian or Ukrainian). You're shifting goalposts a bit, as there's a huge difference between some "random audio" and official release from the Ukrainian government. What you're suggesting is that there's a possibility that the Ukrainian government faked the phone conversations mere hours after the missile strike. In addition to this, there are multiple videos of the SAM system such as the one used to down the MH17 in possession of the separatists and being moved around, and there are multiple social media posts by the terrorists themselves bragging first of having that system and then of downing a Ukrainian army transport An-26 (which turned out to be MH17 instead).
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Krem
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But there will be a very easy way to verify if this recording is genuine or not: at one point the separatists say that they found the documents for an Indonesian student at Thompson University among the rubble. If there was such a student among the dead, that should be all the proof you need.
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Mr. R
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Mr. R wrote: Krem, be cursed, fucking nazi scum. Too bad our Soviet war heroes didn't sterilize your nazi grandparents. If there's another war, I promise you to track you down personally. 
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