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Doubt it would ever happen, but I figure that was the point of her ending.


I'd be shocked honestly if it DOESN'T happen.

A. Maise Williams is 22 years old. At some point this spinof series will be developed and pitched and she'll probably say fuck it and do it.

B. It's a completley new setting that isn't bogged down with any past history or limitations. They can make up anything they want which gives them a lot of creative freedom

C. Arya is the most liked character by series end (Dany had this going into the season by Arya killing NK and Dany going Mad Queen cemented Arya as the fan favorite). Even with the subpar reaction to the last season, a significant majority of fans would be excited for this show.

This show will happen in the next 10-15 years (which in the age of content is a long time from now).

Additionally, I am 99% sure that if GRRM actually finishes the books, HBO will develop an animated series that depicts the story as the books have it, similar to how Fullmetal Alchmeist: Brotherhood differed from the original series.

Everyone is fooling themselves if they think we're just going to get one prequel series after this. The prequel is just the first of many content coming.

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like people, Star Wars had the prequel trilogy happen and the next film destroyed the all time domestic record (and still is going to hold onto that record even with Endgame having a 350m+ OW because the number was so god damn high). And even after TLJ/Solo, Disney is still rightfully planning a ton of new content.

The sour taste of S8 will certainly hurt the brands growth and potential but it doesn't eliminate future content from being developed.

We're going prequels, we're getting continuations/sequels, etc.

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Well ya sure...they already have stuff in the works and in production and casted.

I will watch the new stuff especially the prequel just because dragons will be in it.

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The scene with Jon/Dany/Drogon was really great. The rest was mostly fine. I thought Tyrion moving the chairs, Edmund Tully tryign to make his case and getting laughed off were too of the more human moments in the show recently

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Mister Ecks wrote:
Doubt it would ever happen, but I figure that was the point of her ending.


I'd be shocked honestly if it DOESN'T happen.

A. Maise Williams is 22 years old. At some point this spinof series will be developed and pitched and she'll probably say fuck it and do it.

B. It's a completley new setting that isn't bogged down with any past history or limitations. They can make up anything they want which gives them a lot of creative freedom

C. Arya is the most liked character by series end (Dany had this going into the season by Arya killing NK and Dany going Mad Queen cemented Arya as the fan favorite). Even with the subpar reaction to the last season, a significant majority of fans would be excited for this show.

This show will happen in the next 10-15 years (which in the age of content is a long time from now).

Additionally, I am 99% sure that if GRRM actually finishes the books, HBO will develop an animated series that depicts the story as the books have it, similar to how Fullmetal Alchmeist: Brotherhood differed from the original series.

Everyone is fooling themselves if they think we're just going to get one prequel series after this. The prequel is just the first of many content coming.


Yes. The final episode just screams SEQUELS and SPINOFFS. It's going to happen in 10 or so years.

In that time they'll have released at least two prequels and possibly a film (maybe a version of The Princess and the Queen which would be EPIC) or Robert's Rebellion (even though they covered the main points in the show)

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I think a mini series of Roberts Rebellion or Aegons Conquest are both doable. But I’m not sure if there’s much demand for either.

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Martin says he’ll have Winds out next year and I actually believe him this time? I think this backlash to the show is exactly what he needed for motivation and now getting to the end should be easier knowing that people will like it more than the show no matter what.

Call me crazy.


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Looking back, Season 7 could/should been 10 episodes by simply including the first three episodes of Season 8 as its final three episodes.

Doing so would have resulted in Season 7 ending with the Battle for Winterfell and concluding the Night King/White Walker story, which would have worked out quite perfectly in my eyes. Sure, it may have felt a little rushed, but at ten episodes, I don't think fans would have been quite as upset.

That way the build up to Dany turning would have already began at the end of Season 7 with Jon's revelation to her, and all of Season 8 could be spent on just the Game of Thrones, and cementing her turn at the end of the season. Episode 1 would have opened on a somber tone, very similar to episode 4 of the season, but rather than Dany deciding to storm King's Landing immediately after with a weary army and injured Rhaegal, her conflicts with Jon and Tyrion, Varys' betrayal, and her relationships with the rest of Westeros could have been developed in the earlier episodes of the season instead. Then there could have been an actual naval battle at Dragonstone (could have remained an ambush*) that resulted in Rhaegal's death, Missandei's capture, her fleet destroyed, etc., in the middle of the season.

*Said ambush could have even be written as a plot by Varys.

Basically, I think they had all but a few pieces of the puzzle on the table; they just laid them out incorrectly. Overall, I still enjoyed the season and think a lot of the backlash is unwarranted (even childish at times).

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So we’d have more than one episode in between Dany being the savior of humanity and someone who murders children for kicks? That’s just crazy talk, Corpse! :P

The backlash is another case of toxic feelings of fan ownership, but at least its not born from the “aint no bitches can be Ghostbusters” line of thinking that these internet movements usually start from.


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In the last episode she starts riling up the unsullied to do the same "breaking the wheel" massacre shit all the way up to Winter fell. King's Landing you can almost forgive for the twist element; her sudden desire to fuck up the whole of Westeros made as much sense as if she'd walked out, lifted her dress, and shat out a fucking easter egg.

Then, to make matters even more fucked, Jon Snow, who'd been devasted when that first wave of soldiers were killed in The Bells, he suddenly starts defending her burning the whole city to Tyrion; and apparently missed everything she said in her speech. Love might do a lot of things, but it won't do that.

And wasn't it great how Snow's whole claim to the throne, and his lineage as a Targarian, suddenly evaporated into him being locked in a cell? They tied his arc up but cutting it off altogether, as though that entire subplot hadn't even existed.

Tyrion didn't even attempt to convince grey worm, just went straight to the wheelchair sorcerer because he listened to his story one night. Lazy as fuck, just for the sake of remaining unpredictable - Sansa and Tyrion and Bran together, given their collective persuasiveness and apparent authority over the will of the unsullied, could have very easily made Jon king - not that he would've been the most interesting option, but the end result made as much sense as Aragorn losing the throne of Gondor in the final act of ROTK, to Samwise. That's how fucking stupid it was.

Extremely shit end, to a sometimes impressive season, of a show that overall deserved a lot better.


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Corpse wrote:
Looking back, Season 7 could/should been 10 episodes by simply including the first three episodes of Season 8 as its final three episodes.

Doing so would have resulted in Season 7 ending with the Battle for Winterfell and concluding the Night King/White Walker story, which would have worked out quite perfectly in my eyes. Sure, it may have felt a little rushed, but at ten episodes, I don't think fans would have been quite as upset.

That way the build up to Dany turning would have already began at the end of Season 7 with Jon's revelation to her, and all of Season 8 could be spent on just the Game of Thrones, and cementing her turn at the end of the season. Episode 1 would have opened on a somber tone, very similar to episode 4 of the season, but rather than Dany deciding to storm King's Landing immediately after with a weary army and injured Rhaegal, her conflicts with Jon and Tyrion, Varys' betrayal, and her relationships with the rest of Westeros could have been developed in the earlier episodes of the season instead. Then there could have been an actual naval battle at Dragonstone (could have remained an ambush*) that resulted in Rhaegal's death, Missandei's capture, her fleet destroyed, etc., in the middle of the season.

*Said ambush could have even be written as a plot by Varys.

Basically, I think they had all but a few pieces of the puzzle on the table; they just laid them out incorrectly. Overall, I still enjoyed the season and think a lot of the backlash is unwarranted (even childish at times).


That's not a bad idea (and I generally agree with your thoughts on the season overall), but I can imagine there might have been even more furor about it being anti-climactic if the White Walker storyline had been wrapped up before the final season.


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It’s not childish to have legitimate criticisms of a tv show. Just because you disagree doesn’t make their complaints invalid.

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Then, to make matters even more fucked, Jon Snow, who'd been devasted when that first wave of soldiers were killed in The Bells, he suddenly starts defending her burning the whole city to Tyrion; and apparently missed everything she said in her speech. Love might do a lot of things, but it won't do that.

And wasn't it great how Snow's whole claim to the throne, and his lineage as a Targarian, suddenly evaporated into him being locked in a cell? They tied his arc up but cutting it off altogether, as though that entire subplot hadn't even existed.

Tyrion didn't even attempt to convince grey worm, just went straight to the wheelchair sorcerer because he listened to his story one night. Lazy as fuck, just for the sake of remaining unpredictable - Sansa and Tyrion and Bran together, given their collective persuasiveness and apparent authority over the will of the unsullied, could have very easily made Jon king - not that he would've been the most interesting option, but the end result made as much sense as Aragorn losing the throne of Gondor in the final act of ROTK, to Samwise. That's how fucking stupid it was.

Extremely shit end, to a sometimes impressive season, of a show that overall deserved a lot better.


Every sentence. Spot on!

Let's bow down to the will of the Unsullied who are leaving anyway and even if they did not, could be wiped out in a flash. Makes no sense at all.

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In the last episode she starts riling up the unsullied to do the same "breaking the wheel" massacre shit all the way up to Winter fell. King's Landing you can almost forgive for the twist element; her sudden desire to fuck up the whole of Westeros made as much sense as if she'd walked out, lifted her dress, and shat out a fucking easter egg.

Then, to make matters even more fucked, Jon Snow, who'd been devasted when that first wave of soldiers were killed in The Bells, he suddenly starts defending her burning the whole city to Tyrion; and apparently missed everything she said in her speech. Love might do a lot of things, but it won't do that.

And wasn't it great how Snow's whole claim to the throne, and his lineage as a Targarian, suddenly evaporated into him being locked in a cell? They tied his arc up but cutting it off altogether, as though that entire subplot hadn't even existed.

Tyrion didn't even attempt to convince grey worm, just went straight to the wheelchair sorcerer because he listened to his story one night. Lazy as fuck, just for the sake of remaining unpredictable - Sansa and Tyrion and Bran together, given their collective persuasiveness and apparent authority over the will of the unsullied, could have very easily made Jon king - not that he would've been the most interesting option, but the end result made as much sense as Aragorn losing the throne of Gondor in the final act of ROTK, to Samwise. That's how fucking stupid it was.

Extremely shit end, to a sometimes impressive season, of a show that overall deserved a lot better.


I still think the first half of the last episode was awesome, would have been better if it really earned it though.
It's just shocking still how much they wanted to get the series over with as fast as possible..


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The more I think about the finale the more I'm ok with and understand what happened with Daenerys in the final two episodes. I've been rewatching a lot of old clips and there's really no other way the story could've gone. This isn't Disney.

But the ending with Bran is a MESS. And especially the part with Sansa getting independence for the north just like that with no one (especially Yara??) complaining about why didn't their kingdoms get independence too.

I think Jon ending up where he started makes sense and is kind of poetic (considering he died there as well), but it was too rushed and the way they sidestep his lineage was simply poor storytelling. It's hilarious that these bobbleheads rushed the finale to make a couple of Star Wars movies...they had a chance to end something of their own making perfectly instead of adding to someone else's legacy.

I will say that Drogon burning down the Iron Throne has to be one of the best moments of the series though. It pretty much made the finale for me and is the main reason I'm somewhat satisfied.

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The more I think about the finale the more I'm ok with and understand what happened with Daenerys in the final two episodes. I've been rewatching a lot of old clips and there's really no other way the story could've gone. This isn't Disney.

But the ending with Bran is a MESS. And especially the part with Sansa getting independence for the north just like that with no one (especially Yara??) complaining about why didn't their kingdoms get independence too.

I think Jon ending up where he started makes sense and is kind of poetic (considering he died there as well), but it was too rushed and the way they sidestep his lineage was simply poor storytelling. It's hilarious that these bobbleheads rushed the finale to make a couple of Star Wars movies...they had a chance to end something of their own making perfectly instead of adding to someone else's legacy.

I will say that Drogon burning down the Iron Throne has to be one of the best moments of the series though. It pretty much made the finale for me and is the main reason I'm somewhat satisfied.


I thought Yara already secured independence for the Iron Islands, but I guess that point is unclear.


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That was a pretty terrible last episode, to a disappointing last season. The spectacle was there, but character development was poor and the story became uninteresting.


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I think recapping the show by grading each season I'll go:
S1, S6, S7: B+
S2, S3, S4, S5: B
S8: C

Also it's pretty fun reading back on previous posts.

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It’s not childish to have legitimate criticisms of a tv show. Just because you disagree doesn’t make their complaints invalid.


Seems like at least 7/10 people were unsatisfied with the final season. That's a big bummer and certainly not just a matter of taste or people whinging for the sake of whinging.

I've always been a show apologist but it's hard to support some of the decisions they made in the final season.

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Season Rankings

Season 3 (A)
Season 6 (A)
Season 4 (A)

Season 1 (A-)
Season 7 (A-)

Season 5 (B+)
Season 2 (B)

Season 8 (C)

Rankings will probably change once ive re watched the lot.

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Anyone watch The Last Watch? It was a documentary that aired last Sunday showing some behind the scenes of the last season. Some of it is interesting, but it was extremely dry and felt more like a good extended blu-ray special feature than something that should have been televised. It should have either been a lot longer and covered a lot more ground, or it needed to be condensed and given more interesting content.

It did show the immense amount of work that went into the show. Ignoring any praise or criticism for the writing, the actual production is incredible. I suppose it's disappointing in that regard to see all the complaints of the show's writing and it bleeds over into the show itself, whether or not people actually differentiate the writing from the production in their critiques. I know anyone with half a brain would know that people aren't saying the show LOOKED cheap by any means, but still. Seeing the work go into it is something else. Can't imagine how much patience these people have to do this kind of work.

If the writing didn't fail the show so spectacularly for most people, this last season would be talked about for years to come. It still will be, but for all the wrong reasons.

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It took some time, but after years of hype I finally binged all 8 seasons of this show and WOW is all I have to say. I can definitely see why people were obsessed over this for so many years. Just epic stuff from beginning to end even though it does feel quite small in the beginning compared to the later half of the show. The buildup and the payoff are so worth it though, especially when you get to seasons 6 and 7. Watched all 6 episodes of the final season last night and while I can see why so many were dissapointed overall I think I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. I don't know maybe its because I'm not as emotionally invested in these characters as everyone else is, but it didn't piss me off at any point, although certain resolutions were definitely on the lackluster side with the fates of both Jamie and Cersei being the biggest ones IMO along with that so called final confrontation between The Hound and The Mountain. That fight was really poorly directed as was the majority of the battle at Winterfell. I thought people were seriously exaggerating on how dark and poorly lit that episode was, but holy shit I don't think I could make out more than 70-80% of the stuff that was happening.

This season definitely felt rushed compared to the others and its easily the weakest, but I'd still be down more spin-off shows. An Arya Stark show seems like almost a given and I would love to spend more time in this world and learn about the mythology. I don't see how there won't be more stuff with John Snow either considering how massively popular the character is.


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Ranking the Seasons:

Season 3, Season 4, Season 5, Season 6, Season 7: A
Season 1, Season 2: B+
Season 8: B-


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I wondered if you ever watched GoT, so that answers my question. Cool you binged it all at once.
It certainly offered some of TV's best and entertaining episodes, but for seasons as a whole I often got frustrated with it too and just a shame the last season was kind of botched.


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To me the show nailed the landing, despite the pacing. Why? I'm a huge fan of the book and JJ Martin's work. S8 revealed the broad strokes of how the season ends and for that I'm grateful. I absolutely love how the story turned out and it brushes over the show's execution issues.

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