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Just to step back from the storytelling for a second, the killing of innocent "extras" and non-characters was done flawlessly here. I felt the pain of it. The Walking Dead does this a lot, and I'm supposed to be affected by actors with no lines getting eaten by walkers, but I never am cause it's never done right. But I was devastated by the chaos here. I felt the pain.
Oh yeah they definitely accomplished what they were going for. They only have one episode left to sell us on why it needed to happen thematically though. Seems like a tall task along with everything else.


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Yasss! Queen :D burn it all

They killed all the people you actually cared for (Jorah,Missandei) and 2 of your dragons. BURN THEM ALL!

Tyrion & Jamie goodbye actually made me cry. Damn! can Dinklage act.

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Just to step back from the storytelling for a second, the killing of innocent "extras" and non-characters was done flawlessly here. I felt the pain of it. The Walking Dead does this a lot, and I'm supposed to be affected by actors with no lines getting eaten by walkers, but I never am cause it's never done right. But I was devastated by the chaos here. I felt the pain.

We cared even more seeing it through Arya’s eyes. Made the impact hit harder.

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Maybe these "innocents" were brainwashed or fell for propaganda but instead of running out to plead mercy from the north and the foreign armies they ran into the fake protection of the city sealing their loyalty to there own crazed queen who not to long ago they spat and threw lettuce at. It all had to go from Dany's eyes in order to start over.

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Dany going Mad Queen isn't an out of nowhere outcome; it just need some more character development. It's difficult to accept going from defending the North and holding off on taking the Throne, to then demolishing all of King's Landing in just two episodes (which was only 2/3 weeks in the show). Again, it's not a "bad" result (Dany's character is conflicted, even if she's leaned more toward sympathy), it was just very rushed and should have been properly established over the years.

I think Jon's character has been the worst of the season. He has truly done nothing. He'll probably get his moment in the finale, but he's become uninteresting, and him taking the Throne is uninteresting, even if he decides to do away with it.

Jamie/Cersei ending up together was my preferred outcome for their characters. Yes, Jamie had come a long way, and having him go back to his character from seven seasons ago seems to have butchered his arc, but... that's just Jamie. And Cersei. The two characters being together and dying together was the appropriate outcome, I believe. Their death scene was just a little lame.

Arya started off as one of the best characters, and that has remained true to the end (unless something extreme happens in the finale).

And to be fair to D&D, trying to conclude a series of this size was going to be difficult with no material to follow. They could have fleshed out the narrative more, yes (definitely), but that's the problem with going from an "adapted" series to a more "original" series. I don't know how much involvement GRRM has had the past two seasons, I imagine he at least provided them with a guideline of some kind to follow, but maybe he should have been more directly involved in the writing to help them get to their outcomes. And all the fans going, "I can't wait for GRRM to finish the books!", are hopefully disappointed even more when/if he finishes them. I doubt any of the character arcs actually change much from the shows.

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Now, as for the finale...

It seems very likely that Dany will attempt to execute Tyrion, but Jon will intervene and stop it. At least Jon should. I don't think we'll get a one-on-one scene between Dany and Jon for him to do it (at least, it wouldn't make much sense...), so other than a ridiculous twist of having Drogon betray Dany for Jon, I don't really know how he'll get to her. I feel like they'll have to kill Drogon first. Even if Jon (or someone else) could manage to kill Dany, I doubt Drogon would just fly away... So, he has to be dealt with first.

And I love Arya, but I really hope they don't decide on having her kill Dany instead. Killing the Night King was fine, the perfect choice in my opinion, but it'd just feel super cheap for her to either disguise herself as Grey Worm (or a random soldier) to reach Dany or to sneak up on her instead to do it...

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I also agree that while some of the outcomes might be shocking, they're also all fine within the confinements of what u expect from the show even if it's just the element of surprise. But the writing itself of how it got to these outcomes has been too short sighted, getting away cheap with coming to conclusions instead of fleshing things out, another example of this is the random coincidental encounter between Euron and Jaime. So it really just feels that RR had given the characters' destinies to the show writers, and they didn't feel inspired or have simply just been incapable to tie the things together well. They've acted like wanting to have get rid of things asap. I did enjoy watching episode 3 and 5 of this season quite a lot because we've seem shit gone down and it's been shot pretty well. The other episodes have just felt pretty meaningless in resolving the story, but nonetheless we have just gotten an anticipated finale season we didn't have to wait years for, that impatience has just also hurt its epicness. The show has gone from award winning drama in earlier seasons to empty character fueled action in the last.


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Jon has NEVER done anything.

He was built up for yeaaaaars and he has literally done nothing. He is the most useless character in all of GoT universe

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The more I think about it and the more old clips I rewatch the more it makes sense. She always had a vicious streak but she directed it towards people she thought were the bad guys (like the slave masters). The psycho was always lurking there. And on top of that, what were Missandei, good and pure and loyal Missandei's last words to her? "Dracarys". She basically told her "I've seen this place from the inside now, and burn it all".

Daenerys never bonded with the people of Westeros like she did with the people in Essos. She felt more of a foreigner at Winterfell than she did anywhere in the other continent. She only bonded with John, and then he doesn't want her anymore. At this point all she has left is her desire to be the Queen, and the only way to do that is to rule by fear as a tyrant.

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Jon has NEVER done anything.

He was built up for yeaaaaars and he has literally done nothing. He is the most useless character in all of GoT universe


??? He alerted the world to the threat of the white walkers and brought Daenerys to the fight plus without him all those dragonglass weapons would't have been made. Without John the world would've ended.

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Jon has NEVER done anything.

He was built up for yeaaaaars and he has literally done nothing. He is the most useless character in all of GoT universe


Here here!

All he’s done is lose fights, get murdered, get scores of soldiers killed a dragon killed and now maybe Dany killed because he has to tell the supposed truth. Can’t stand him. Literally thousands died because of his inept leadership.

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Barrabás wrote:
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Jon has NEVER done anything.

He was built up for yeaaaaars and he has literally done nothing. He is the most useless character in all of GoT universe


??? He alerted the world to the threat of the white walkers and brought Daenerys to the fight plus without him all those dragonglass weapons would't have been made. Without John the world would've ended.


Those weapons did diddly squat. The NK was killed with valerian steel anyway. Could have dealt with KL then deal with the NK who would have had no dragon if not were for JS.

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a dragon killed

I'd put that on Tyrion.

Definitely the most inexplicable thing in the whole show still was the idea to capture a wight, especially in regards to what they thought they could achieve with it (get Cersei in the fold)...that put things so much on their head and lead to consequences that could probably be easily avoided if they would not have carried out that non-sensible plan.


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I'm pretty sure Yara and her fleet + Dorne will come to support Jon in the last episode. Looks like Varys managed to send out a few ravens with messages on Jon's claim to the throne.

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Ok this needs to stop. 49% on Rotten Tomatoes? For "The Bells*?!? What the fuck?

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Ok this needs to stop. 49% on Rotten Tomatoes? For "The Bells*?!? What the fuck?

It’s ok if you like it but those who don’t have valid opinions.

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Totally fine with that, but it feels sometimes like I'm watching a different show. And honestly I end up feeling like maybe I'm not invested enough or I don't care enough, because I just don't understand how these episodes can be so poorly reviewed. It's not that I don't get their criticisms, it's why am I not feeling the same way, at least in an understanding way? I know we all have different thoughts, but usually I can at least see why something is getting ripped apart.

I'm at the point now where I don't think it'll win the Drama Emmy this year, which would be a shock. It'll win some technical Emmys, maybe a Directing one, and hopefully Maisie Williams. Beyond that, I don't think it'll take the top prize.

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There is also a conspiracy theory going around now that GRRM has actually finished the books but Benioff and Weiss won't let him release them.

People really didn't like this episode. :funny:


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Totally fine with that, but it feels sometimes like I'm watching a different show. And honestly I end up feeling like maybe I'm not invested enough or I don't care enough, because I just don't understand how these episodes can be so poorly reviewed. It's not that I don't get their criticisms, it's why am I not feeling the same way, at least in an understanding way? I know we all have different thoughts, but usually I can at least see why something is getting ripped apart.

I'm at the point now where I don't think it'll win the Drama Emmy this year, which would be a shock. It'll win some technical Emmys, maybe a Directing one, and hopefully Maisie Williams. Beyond that, I don't think it'll take the top prize.


I have a feeling it's gonna win acting awards and sweep the tech and directing.
Please give Lena the Emmy already.

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Totally fine with that, but it feels sometimes like I'm watching a different show. And honestly I end up feeling like maybe I'm not invested enough or I don't care enough, because I just don't understand how these episodes can be so poorly reviewed. It's not that I don't get their criticisms, it's why am I not feeling the same way, at least in an understanding way? I know we all have different thoughts, but usually I can at least see why something is getting ripped apart.

I'm at the point now where I don't think it'll win the Drama Emmy this year, which would be a shock. It'll win some technical Emmys, maybe a Directing one, and hopefully Maisie Williams. Beyond that, I don't think it'll take the top prize.


I have a feeling it's gonna win acting awards and sweep the tech and directing.
Please give Lena the Emmy already.


One criticism I do agree with is that I don't think Lena was given that much to do this season. So I think her best shot at a win is gone. If it's between her and Maisie... hard to ignore her performance in episodes 3 and 5.

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There is also a conspiracy theory going around now that GRRM has actually finished the books but Benioff and Weiss won't let him release them.

People really didn't like this episode. :funny:


Why are people so certain that GRRM has given zero input in the last two seasons? My personal opinion is he has absolutely no idea how to finish the story.

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Mister Ecks wrote:
Totally fine with that, but it feels sometimes like I'm watching a different show. And honestly I end up feeling like maybe I'm not invested enough or I don't care enough, because I just don't understand how these episodes can be so poorly reviewed. It's not that I don't get their criticisms, it's why am I not feeling the same way, at least in an understanding way? I know we all have different thoughts, but usually I can at least see why something is getting ripped apart.

I'm at the point now where I don't think it'll win the Drama Emmy this year, which would be a shock. It'll win some technical Emmys, maybe a Directing one, and hopefully Maisie Williams. Beyond that, I don't think it'll take the top prize.


I have a feeling it's gonna win acting awards and sweep the tech and directing.
Please give Lena the Emmy already.


One criticism I do agree with is that I don't think Lena was given that much to do this season. So I think her best shot at a win is gone. If it's between her and Maisie... hard to ignore her performance in episodes 3 and 5.


True, I think he best shot was season 6. But I can't believe she has never won. Fuck the Emmys.

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Probably one of the best episodes ever. Like an epic movie

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Mister Ecks wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
There is also a conspiracy theory going around now that GRRM has actually finished the books but Benioff and Weiss won't let him release them.

People really didn't like this episode. :funny:


Why are people so certain that GRRM has given zero input in the last two seasons? My personal opinion is he has absolutely no idea how to finish the story.
I think its just easier to blame D&D for everything. Like how we always blame Vince when bad things happen in WWE. Their biggest problem, as we’ve mentioned, is forcing this deadline on themselves. They’ve said this was always the plan, but if there was another season they wouldn’t be able to finish their Star Wars movie by 2021 so it makes you wonder.

Making GRRM into a god, one who could do no wrong until his story had been “hijacked” , is a way to cope. Just forget that alot of these same people had endless amounts of complaints for Feast and Dance.

The mixed reception to this season will definitely put even more hype on the final books if they are ever finished. They are now something bigger than “a more detailed version of the story we already know.”


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