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Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions: Winner!!!! |
Enough is enough, it is time to determine WOKJs favorite pop singer. This will be a ROUND ROBIN style tournament where eight groups of four will square off, the winners going on to the final group and a chance to become champion. It will probably take a long time, so there will be many matches per day with around 24 hours to determine the winners. I'd like to get atleast five votes a day though to avoid ties (if there is a tie I will give them half points.) As for the pool, I divided them into four tiers. The Undisputed, The A-Listers, The Hit-Makers and The Dealer's Choice. If anyone has a problem with the list I am more than welcome to make a switch, but you must not only say who deserves a spot but who they should replace and make a good case for both. This is mostly US based, so sorry international people I don't really care about Robbie Williams or Utada Hikaru and they'd have no chance of advancing against the stacked field anyways. I also set a cutoff decade of the 80s to shorten the list, and again the older people (aside from maybe Elvis) probably would have no chance anyways. I'm also not including groups, though you are more than welcome to consider an artists entire catalog when voting. Again, this will take at least a month to complete so let me know now if the idea is stupid and any ways to perform it. I feel like the round robin style is more fun and will lead to alot more interesting match-ups. #1 seeds: The Undisputed Taylor Swift Michael Jackson Madonna Adele Beyonce Britney Spears Mariah Carey Rihanna #2 seeds: The A-Listers Bruno Mars Justin Timberlake Ed Sheeran Lady Gaga Ariana Grande Janet Jackson Justin Bieber #3 seeds: The Hit-Makers Usher Shakira Miley Cyrus Pink Enrique Iglesias Whitney Houston #4: The Dealer's Choice Christina Aguilera Carly Raw Jepsen Avril Lavigne Nelly Furtado Kelly Clarkson Katy Perry Robyn Each initial group will consist of one member of each tier. They will be somewhat random, but obviously not entirely. Am I gonna put Britney and Christina in the same group? Of course. Rules, per wiki: A round-robin tournament (or all-play-all tournament) is a competition "in which each contestant meets all other contestants in turn". I think that is everything I need to say. So make you case for someone who was left off if you want to. I'll start the tournament itself sometime this week. ----- Standings Championship Round: Michael Jackson - 12 (MC, RI, PI, BS, AD, MA, KP ) Mariah Carey - 9 (KP, MJ, AD, MA, RI, BS, PI) Madonna - 9 (AD, PI, RI, MC, KP, MJ, BS ) Pink - 8 (MA, MJ, BS, AD, KP, RI, MC) Rihanna - 8 (KP, MJ, MA, MC, BS, PI, AD ) Adele - 5 (MA, BS, MC, KP, PI, MJ, RI) Katy Perry - 5 (MC, RI, BS, AD, PI, MA , MJ) Britney Spears - 0 (AD, KP, PI, MJ, RI, MC, MA) Group Stage: A: Mariah Carey - 6 Usher - 4 Carly Rae Jepsen - 2 Justin Bieber - 0 B: Katy Perry - 6 Beyonce - 4 Jennifer Lopez - 2 Janet Jackson - 0 C: Madonna - 5 Kelly Clarkson - 5 Prince - 2 Whitney Houston - 0 D: Adele - 6 Shakira - 3 Ed Sheeran - 2 Christina Aguilera - 1 E: Michael Jackson - 5 Ariana Grande - 4 Avril Lavigne - 3 Enrique Iglesias - 0 F: Rihanna - 6 Kesha - 3 Nelly Furtado - 2 Bruno Mars - 1 G: Britney Spears - 6 Lady Gaga - 4 Miley Cyrus - 2 Lana Del Ray - 0 H: Pink - 6 Taylor Swift - 4 Justin Timberlake - 2 Robyn - 0 |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Example of how it will go Day 1: Frederick Frederickson v Sally Antonio Mrs. Firebomb v Scott Pollack Lets say KJ vote for Sally. She would get a point, one out of a possible three for the first round. Scott and Firebomb tie so they get half a point, leaving Fred with 0. Sally - 1 Firebomb - .5 Scott - .5 Fred - 0 However Day 2: Frederick Frederickson v Scott Pollock Sally Antonio vs Mrs. Firebomb Mrs. Firebomb - 1.5 Sally - 1 Fred - 1 Scott - .5 Day 3: Frederick Frederickson v Mrs. Firebomb Sally Antonio v Scott Pollock Fred - 2 Firebomb - 1.5 Scott - 1.5 Sally - 1 So even though Fred lost an individual matchup to Sally, he was still able to come back, win the group and advance to the finals. One loss doesn't knock you out. Every one of these people have taken hits and come back and thus will need to do it again. Hope this clarifies things. I'm not very good at explaining my game ideas as seen by The KJ League. |
Author: | Corpse [ Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Sounds fun. Something to do around here for a awhile. Don't rush it. |
Author: | Mau [ Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
YAAAAAS only Britney is legit #1 and everything is done. |
Author: | Jack Sparrow [ Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Think Taylor will win this. |
Author: | Mau [ Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Jack Sparrow wrote: Think Taylor will win this. over my dead body |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Rihanna for Timberlake is reasonable. As much as I like Sheeran, no way I can put anyone else out of Tier 1. |
Author: | Mau [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Katy Perry should at least be tier 3. It's rather stupid having Shakira and Enrique Iglesias above her. |
Author: | Jack Sparrow [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
I agree though I guess people don't like Perry enough. |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Mau wrote: Katy Perry should at least be tier 3. It's rather stupid having Shakira and Enrique Iglesias above her. But there’s no objection to the 32 I picked? |
Author: | devon28flick [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Drake should replace Harry Styles, as Drake is more pop and has more pop hits than Harry, who only has one and half hits as a solo artist. |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Oh yeah, in terms of popularity Drake would have a case for Tier 1. I didn't include him because I feel that Drake himself would be upset if we considered him more pop than hip-hop and then he would have to write a diss track about me. I don't know if I can take that kind of humiliation. I'm all in for replacing Harry Styles though. |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Not-at-all final since we're still determining the field, but this would be close to what the groups will look like. Aside from the intentionally overstacked Group of Death is there anything that needs more balancing? Group A - The Swift Exits Taylor Swift Bruno Mars Kesha (replacement for Harry Styles) Nelly Furtado Group B - Jamonnn Michael Jackson Janet Jackson Pink Lana Del Ray (replacing Charli XCX) Group C - Move to the Music Madonna The Weeknd Whitney Houston Katy Perry Group D - Group of Death (cause there always has to be one) Adele Lady Gaga Usher Robyn Group E - The Revolution Rihanna Justin Bieber Prince (replacing Chris Brown) Kelly Clarkson Group F - Perfect Hustlers Beyonce Ed Sheeran Jennifer Lopez (replacing Enrique Iglesias) Carly Rae Jepsen Group G - Mice Britney Spears Justin Timberlake Miley Cyrus Christina Aguilera Group H - Skate and Sing Mariah Carey Ariana Grande Shakira Avril Lavigne |
Author: | Mau [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Lmao Britney will.murder that group but that's fine I like this. |
Author: | Shack [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Where the fuck is Ke$ha |
Author: | Mau [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Shack wrote: Where the fuck is Ke$ha Ahe should be in instead of Styles. At least she has a #1. |
Author: | Shack [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
I think Lana Del Rey and Lorde should be in as well. Charli is only on here cause Flava likes her. |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Shack wrote: I think Lana Del Rey and Lorde should be in as well. Charli is only on here cause Flava likes her. I love Lorde and completely forgot. Where in the world has she been? Edit: Forgot about Kesha too. Tik Tok is pretty iconic and shes become a symbol for abused women fighting their way back up. Ok she’s in, Styles is out. Charli is in the hotseat. |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
I’m also reconsidering my stance on Drake. He really isn’t that much different from Avril Lavigne when you think about it. But if Drake is in then opens a whole new field and unfortunately Post Malone would have to be a part of that field too. Hmm what to do. |
Author: | stuffp [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Lana in please. |
Author: | stuffp [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
And do we really need Robyn for a round-robin tournament? |
Author: | Shack [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Flava'd vs The World wrote: I’m also reconsidering my stance on Drake. He really isn’t that much different from Avril Lavigne when you think about it. But if Drake is in then opens a whole new field and unfortunately Post Malone would have to be a part of that field too. Hmm what to do. I would consider going the other way and having no Drake, Usher or The Weeknd, I didn't see them as popstars honestly. J Lo is an omission. Paula Abdul, George Michael and Cyndi Lauper are options. |
Author: | Alex Y. [ Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
Sounds fun |
Author: | Mau [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
what? Lana del rey? Lorde? You are nuts they are not in any way close to everyone included. but I guess some people have to lose every round in the robin round |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 2020 WOKJ Mega-Popstar Tournament of Champions |
I've got two endorsements for Lana and nobody besides me wants to defend Charli (she does have a hot 100 #1!!!#Fancy), so the switch will be made. Though if Lana is on, what about people like Fiona Apple and Halsey who are right on the border of pop and alternative? What about Prince??? Though, much like Drake, I feel like Prince would be insulted at being labeled "pop." I'm also still up for finding a place for Lorde. Jennifer Lopez was a strong consideration, but I've always thought of her as a movie star who also sings, more like Will Smith than a Justin Timberlake who is a popstar who also acts. However, she does have quite a few hits, so I'm not gonna rule her out or in without a third opinion. No way I'm taking out Usher or The Weeknd though. Usher had FIVE #1 SINGLES in 2004. It was completely absurd. And The Weeknd is weird and R&Bish, but a lot of pop is weird these days. Billie Eilish would have been on here if she was around for longer than the last twenty minutes. The 80s people Shack listed probably deserve to be included, but I don't think they'd win a single matchup, so agonizing over who they would replace seems pointless. I'm gonna start on Saturday, so we have two more days to get this perfect. |
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