Pubs trying to cancel Eminem for kneeling ... during the song "Still Dre."

Makes you wonder if Colin Kaepernick's cancellation was ever about the national anthem at all. Or was it just about Who was protesting Who?

The kneelers are uncancelable. They have the full support of the establishment

Conservatives are trying to cancel Disney for "grooming" children into gays. Sorry everyone, but enjoying your favorite movies is now an insult to DeSantis Jesus.

Meanwhile, Matt Gaetz is still doing speaking gigs with the very same people calling for this cancellation.

The Disney thing will fall by the wayside, they are far too big for this to affect them. I assume every company is woke and progressive, so I would never "boycott" a company for reasons like that.

The groomer label is kind of being used as revenge for years of Republicans being called nazis and white supremacists. In reality they don't need to go that far, it's a strong enough argument on its own to say that people who want to teach gender ideology to 3rd graders are trying to indoctrinate them into their ideology when they're most moldable, without it being a sexual thing.

Yup because conservatives never try to indoctrinate children into their own ideology.

I wouldn't want kids in 3rd grade public schools forced to learn religious stuff either

Religious conservatives are capable of everything the far left has done when it's gone too far trying to control people's behaviour, however the left did such an excellent job purging them from places like education, big tech, entertainment, etc. that they're really defanged right now. They may end up making a comeback in the end, but at least it would take a while to flip the tables, and in the meantime having them get a little more popular to make sure the far left doesn't get too drunk on power could be necessary. I'm not sure it's possible to ever get rid of the people who want to control others, at least if it's split between two sides neither is as powerful.

I think it goes beyond religion. Remembering all the false information I was taught in grade school makes my brain hurt. Like how Columbus discovered America, how nuking Japan was justified, how racism was a thing of the past, etc...

It's a problem but one on both sides, I'd include things like pretending the National Socialist German Workers Party weren't really socialists, or that Keynesian policies during the Great Depression actually worked instead of being a decade long failed experiment until WWII started, as some other examples of questionable rewriting of history.

In general it seems like history books will always be pro government and pro war, to help support future government that want to expand government and start wars. Hence the story of the 1930s being that people were screwed until the government, and a war, saved them. There will probably be a time when kids are wrongly taught that Bush Jr was a great president who Did Stuff keeping the US and world safe after 9/11.

I never understood the cancel culture hysteria from a political standpoint. Democrats have never passed any hard legislation the promotes censorship or has ever pushed for censorship. All censorship associated from “The Left” has come organically from private businesses or pressured on them from the left.

However, the GOP actually passes laws that promotes censorship or is in retaliation for a private company speaking their opinion on a certain topic.

You're right that it's cultural institutions working in tandem with one another rather than the government that directly attempts to cancel individuals. Doesn't make it any less problematic

Psaki mentions a lot how they think social media should control misinformation more, but the bigger problem seems to me that places like Twitter have decided on their own to censor opponents to their preferred political views/party, more than the Democrats really having the power to do it in this case. In general the right's beef with the woke left right now is bigger than the Democrats who are probably just along for the ride aligning with it as an election strategy.

The Right gets banned from Twitter because they're fucking white supremacists who spread dangerous shit all the fucking time.

Do you agree with things like twitter at different points suspending the Babylon Bee (the right wing's the Onion), LibsofTikTok (posts Tik Tok videos by leftists they put up themselves) or Defiant Ls (posts hypocritical pairs of tweets by leftists), or LibsofTikTok being doxxed by Washington Post today?

Chippy: "Everyone I disagree with is a white supremacist! Anything anyone anyone says that I disagree with is dangerous!"

I'll reply even though neither of you deserve fucking shit.

The Babylon Bee was spreading misinformation, and not cutesy LOL aren't we so funny, like legit misinformation. Which everyone knows is a QUICK way to get banned.
Ditto fuckwadsoftiktok. I don't even know who the fuck defiant l's is.

And do you know what doxxing is? Because it wasn't that. A journalist was writing a story and did simple research. Research that literally anyone can do. Their account WAS THEIR NAME 18 months ago.

And to zwack, no, not every republican is a white supremacist, you fucking idiot. But the ones getting banned? You're sure as shit they are. There are millions of republicans on twitter. Are they all banned? No. So honestly fuck off.

Oh did everyone see Utah is trying to ban abortion even when the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother? Pro-birth fucks. Honestly you're a piece of shit if you're a republican. End of story.

I think it was for giving Rachel Levine Man of the Year. Obviously some people find that insulting, but whether it's "misinformation" to call a trans woman a man is more philosophy than science, and when taking into account being a satire site more similar to a Chappelle trans comment than an anti-vax doctor on rumble. There are a lot of things that can be called misinformation if it now means everything that goes against left wing or government's views.



Just because she made the mistake of the domain still being registered in her own name, in a way that 99.99% of people wouldn't be able to look up, doesn't mean it's not doxxing. They took an anonymous account and posted her name and job knowing how the notoriously bloodthirsty twitter mob of leftists would respond to it, and they went to her relatives house in person. Making someone afraid they'll get fired or making them afraid their family members will get dragged into something they had nothing to do with, seem like two of the best ways to intimidate someone into silence. Which is totally something people on the side of the good guys do, btw.



Some people would be as insulted by allowing abortion up to the 9th month - depends on your views.

As someone who actually follows conservative people on twitter, the biggest reason they give for banning them is "misinformation" as Twitter has obviously decided they and MSM can be the arbiter of truth on things like covid, not white supremacy.

Chippy next time don't feel pressured to responf lol.

For a while the furthest left regular poster here was Flava'd so it's nice to have the full echelon of political views again on this site

Also, abortion is never necessary to "save the life of the mother" sometimes it is necessary to deliver the baby before the pregnancy is full term to save her life. But never does destroying the fetus once it is separate from the mother help her health. In such case the doctor should try and save both lives. Fetuses delivered at 20 weeks have survived.

I don’t understand the right’s recent love affair with Elon Musk, the central public figure of Green Energy who is to quote him, “not a conservative.” Like he moved to Texas and was an outspoken opponent of Newsom and the pandemic mandates, but he is far more aligned with the Democrats and the “Left” than Right Wing Culture Warriors

I think it's more of an enemy of my enemy thing wanting to see Twitter taken down, combined with liking the shitposting troll style. He is still moderate at worst though, I don't think he's like Bill Maher who despite having anti-woke/pro free speech views is a clear leftist. Musk is a little more genuinely conservative than that, I think the only area he has clear views like a leftist is climate change. Maybe someone like Gabbard or Glenn Greenwald is closest. I could see him going on Tucker.

I'm wary though of anyone who's that rich being a good guy though, I don't trust anyone else in the hundred billions to not be sociopath scumbags, so it would be like Lance Armstrong winning 7 Tour De Frances clean against cheaters. Despite Tesla only being like the 179th highest revenue company, the stock is so inflated that he is the richest man. The brand of Musk is clearly essential to this and stunts like this help that.

The fawning over Elon Musk the past few days is embarrassing. Like, have enough common sense to know when you're being played for your love and adoration (which he is missing now that he is more often the butt of the joke for the left, which is why he so readily is catering to the right)

I guess the extremists seek out like-minded people out for... attestation? If a public figure like Musk, be it via their wealth, power, or influence otherwise, thinks similarly (or are just "anti" whatever), then that means their own opinions or beliefs are more valid, right? That's what I get from this dangerous, almost idol worship that's taken over so many people. It's so weird.

Politicians, especially, should be frequently questioned and criticized and held accountable. It's much more prevalent on the right with how they've propped up certain politicians in their party. They're far more likely to support and stick behind people "like them", and that's become more true than ever as some of these people have become nigh immune to any accountability or criticism. They can say or do anything, and they'll be cheered for it.

ANYONE who is in a position of influence shouldn't be idolized. Admiration, respect, sure. But it's gone beyond that with many. And when people of influence (especially those with money and power) have people cross the line between admiration and "worship" supporting them, it gives them permission, justification (it's for "freedom!!!") to take full advantage of them, and provides an avenue to do many dangerous things that impacts everyone.

Not saying it doesn't exist on the left, but most of it is largely what's to be expected of stout party supporters. Are there leftists on Twitter who take things too far? Obviously. But this is largely limited to Twitter or social media in general. You don't see many in the real world who behave or act like that. There are literally large groups of real people out there driving vehicles that are painted in QAnon décor; dressed in QAnon hats, shirts, underwear; glued to screens, radios, etc., that fill their thought with nothing other than QAnon material; and who literally wrap themselves with QAnon blankets and sleep with Trumpy Bear on their MyPillow. (Note: Just using QAnon as an example here.)

Like... it's hard to find words for it. It's... gross, really. I get the imagine of being wrapped in a dirty, sticky film that clings to you, poisoning you, and is impossible to wash off thinking about letting myself ever become like that.

As Florida legislators were rushing through passage of a bill to repeal the special district that governs Walt Disney World last week, they failed to notice an obscure provision in state law that says the state could not do what legislators were doing — unless the district’s bond debt was paid off.

Disney, however, noticed and quietly sent a note to its investors to show that it was confident the Legislature’s attempt to dissolve the special taxing district operating the 39-square mile parcel it owned in two counties violated the “pledge” the state made when it enacted the district in 1967, and therefore was not legal.

The result, Disney told its investors, is that it would continue to go about business as usual.

The statement, first reported by WESH 2, quotes the statute which says, in part, that the “State of Florida pledges...it will not limit or alter the rights of the District...until all such bonds together with interest thereon...are fully met and discharged.”

Disney’s statement says, “In light of the State of Florida’s pledge to the District’s bondholders, Reedy Creek expects to explore its options while continuing its present operations, including levying and collecting its ad valorem taxes and collecting its utility revenues, paying debt service on its ad valorem tax bonds and utility revenue bonds, complying with its bond covenants and operating and maintaining its properties.’’

In essence, the state had a contractual obligation not to interfere with the district until the bond debt is paid off, said Jake Schumer, a municipal attorney in the Maitland law firm of Shepard, Smith, Kohlmyer & Hand, in an article for Bloomberg Tax posted on Tuesday and cited in a Law and Crime article.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politi ... rylink=cpy

I'm no law expert, but in addition to the bill DeSantis signed being illegal based on this, Disney probably has a potential lawsuit to hit the state with if they so desired. Even IF the state pays off their billions in debt, they already signed the bill designed to alter the rights of the district without paying their bond debt (with interest!) off beforehand, thus violating the stature: “State of Florida pledges...it will not limit or alter the rights of the District...until all such bonds together with interest thereon...are fully met and discharged".

Yeah, Disney has made any changes internally. This bill was such a busy and has been DeSantis once again being shot down by the judicial rule of the law. In those regards, he is very similar to Trump, in that he he tries to make big time plays only for his lack of research to be exposed.