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I've never met anyone who didn't think black lives mattered. Of course black lives matter! Why would anyone say/think they didn't matter. Have you ever met someone who didn't think black lives mattered?


Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:34 pm
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Anyone that says All Lives Matter doesn't think Black lives matter.

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I've never met anyone who didn't think black lives mattered. Of course black lives matter! Why would anyone say/think they didn't matter. Have you ever met someone who didn't think black lives mattered?


You seriously have never seen or heard a racist?
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is Zwackerm coming out as Trumper? I didn't see it coming.


Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:37 pm
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Black Lives Matter is well intended but the execution has been criticized by some. BLM acts like white cops killing black people is because of racism, but there's little % difference between how often white cops kill black people and how often white cops kill white people. This would suggest when police brutality kills a black person it's more likely for non race reasons that affects every race, like being overmasculine dicks in a job where their life is on the line. But it sounds better to BLM to blame it all on race.

Overall police killing citizens is a fraction of the problem that black citizens killing each other is. Black people are more likely to kill white people than the other way around too. Because of that a case can be made black people should be thanking cops not demonizing them. When you have less cops or they're scared to do their job in places like Ferguson, it opens the door for the exponentially bigger problem of black people killing each other without having to worry about the police. A surprising % of the black population may agree with this. Hillary beat Bernie in the primaries because she annihilated him in the black vote. In the 90s the Clintons were very tough on crime and greatly increased black incarceration, police officers, gun restriction, etc., basically did the opposite of everything BLM supports right now. So the Clintons wild popularity with black people could be a sign of people being thankful for them cleaning up the streets and making their children's lives safer.

With that said racism obviously exists and is a problem. Black Lives Matter is partly about awakening the anger in black people that has been dwelling for a long time over racism. I saw a Facebook video that during a university speech a lady asked white people to stand if they would like to be treated like black people and nobody did. So there is problems. But ultimately instead of "All Lives Matter" I wish "Cop Lives Matter" took off instead, as privileged white people don't need to be included as All Lives Matter alludes to, but treating cop lives as valuable should be a thing. As for black people killing each other, it probably doesn't have anything to do with actual race. It's just about economic class. Overall the two most obvious things making someone more likely to murder are being male and being in a low economic class

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oh shack.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... c3b46b1c7f

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In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).

But as data scientists and policing experts often note, comparing how many or how often white people are killed by police to how many or how often black people are killed by the police is statistically dubious unless you first adjust for population.

According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times larger than the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.

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That analysis is incomplete because if black population commit crimes at a higher %, they are more likely to be stopped by police

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:| :| :|

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is Zwackerm coming out as Trumper? I didn't see it coming.

No I do not support Donald Trump. I don't think he's all bad (I'm against Obamacare, tbh), but most of his policies don't sound great to me.


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According to the FBI's website in 2015 African-Americans had 26.6% of arrests, 36.4% of violent crime arrests including 51.1% of homicides and 53.5% robbery. So that 25.3% of people killed by police officers as in the WaPO article are black makes perfect sense and if anything is actually low.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... s/table-43

Like I said I don't think it has that much to do with their skin color, I think it's just more black people = poor, poor people = crime.

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So because they "commit more crime" they're expected to get shot more?

Also, do they commit 2.5x the crime as the white population?

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Have you ever met someone who didn't think black lives mattered?


This is the most sheltered white boy thing I've ever read. Sorry, zwackerm. I know you mean well.


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Seeing this new thread, I originally read it as "Blake Lively Matters" and I thought wtf? But then oh...


Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:12 pm
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Black lives don't matter to me. Then again, neither do white lives. I don't care which colour gets killed, as long as they're American. :P

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Black lives don't matter to me. Then again, neither do white lives. I don't care which colour gets killed, as long as they're American. :P

Die u Chinese loving British scum :P

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zwackerm wrote:
Have you ever met someone who didn't think black lives mattered?


This is the most sheltered white boy thing I've ever read. Sorry, zwackerm. I know you mean well.


What makes you not a sheltered white woman? Do you live in a bad neighborhood full of black shootings?


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Post Re: Black Lives Matter
zwackerm wrote:
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Have you ever met someone who didn't think black lives mattered?


This is the most sheltered white boy thing I've ever read. Sorry, zwackerm. I know you mean well.


What makes you not a sheltered white woman?


Because Libs has had more dicks than a glory hole. ;)

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zwackerm wrote:
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Have you ever met someone who didn't think black lives mattered?


This is the most sheltered white boy thing I've ever read. Sorry, zwackerm. I know you mean well.


What makes you not a sheltered white woman? Do you live in a bad neighborhood full of black shootings?


I do not. But I have about 20 years of life experience on you. That's all I'm saying.


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I'm enjoying the increased usage of the Water Cooler forum. Thanks mainly to zwackerm. :thumbsup:

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(I'm against Obamacare, tbh)


I'm not American, so maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't Obamacare basically a law passed to make medical care more accessible and affordable for people? Why would anyone be against something like that?


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zwackerm wrote:
(I'm against Obamacare, tbh)


I'm not American, so maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't Obamacare basically a law passed to make medical care more accessible and affordable for people? Why would anyone be against something like that?

Obamacare does the following

Makes it illegal to not have health insurance or you pay a fine (which is less than health insurance costs)
Makes it illegal for part time workers to work more than 40 hours a week without health insurance


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Umm... what's wrong with the second one? That's a good thing. It keeps employers from screwing you.

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Umm... what's wrong with the second one? That's a good thing. It keeps employers from screwing you.

I don't need health insurance. My parents cover me.

Luckily at my current job they let us go right up to 40, but at most part time retail jobs, they have a 25-26 hour limit.


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If you're working 40 hours, get a full time job.

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If you're working 40 hours, get a full time job.

I am at school so I only work when I go home on some weekends. I only ever approached 40 hours in the summer.


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