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nghtvsn wrote:

Bernie wants terrorists and rapists to vote+his time has past after laying down like a dog in 2016.

i.hope wrote:

Donald Trump said he ordered a strike on Iran, then called it off 10 minutes before the strike was to happen. He changed his mind because it would cause a disproportionate killing of 150 people, as told by a general.

Thank you Trump for bothering to ask at the last minute about the consequences of your own action.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-iran-usa-trump-military/trump-says-he-halted-u-s-military-response-on-iran-because-was-not-proportionate-idUSKCN1TM1P8

Chippy wrote:

If you've served your prison sentence, your voting rights should be restored.

nghtvsn wrote:

Biden is Hillary 3.0
Bernie wants terrorists and rapists to vote+his time has past after laying down like a dog in 2016. Anyone still supporting him should be embarrassed to have been backstabbed like that. I am and I Donated to his campaign!
Kamala is shrill and bossy
Bottedgedge...please

I really believe Warren will end up the nominee after getting the Bernie Bots unless Michelle somehow steps in. She's the only person who I think could be a problem and win just because of the Obama hype machine. I thought Oprah might have been that candidate but not anymore.

zwackerm wrote:

Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like

Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave!

Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats.

zwackerm wrote:

Jiffy wrote:

zwackerm wrote:

The one where he tells 3 native-born women (who happen to be brown) to go back to the countries where they came from?

And the moron literally ran on a plank of "Make America Great Again."

Author:	Shack [ Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:44 am ]
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Biden is running on "I'm not going to change anything" Lol

Author:	nghtvsn [ Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:37 am ]
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Biden is Hillary 3.0 Bernie wants terrorists and rapists to vote+his time has past after laying down like a dog in 2016. Anyone still supporting him should be embarrassed to have been backstabbed like that. I am and I Donated to his campaign! Kamala is shrill and bossy Bottedgedge...please I really believe Warren will end up the nominee after getting the Bernie Bots unless Michelle somehow steps in. She's the only person who I think could be a problem and win just because of the Obama hype machine. I thought Oprah might have been that candidate but not anymore.

Author:	i.hope [ Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:45 am ]
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Donald Trump said he ordered a strike on Iran, then called it off 10 minutes before the strike was to happen. He changed his mind because it would cause a disproportionate killing of 150 people, as told by a general. Thank you Trump for bothering to ask at the last minute about the consequences of your own action. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-iran-usa-trump-military/trump-says-he-halted-u-s-military-response-on-iran-because-was-not-proportionate-idUSKCN1TM1P8

Author:	i.hope [ Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:57 am ]
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nghtvsn wrote: Bernie wants terrorists and rapists to vote+his time has past after laying down like a dog in 2016. He believes voting right is an inalienable right if you are a part of a citizenship. Government is formed by citizens via voting. Its powers derive from the people. It's not hard to conceive voting as a right fundamental to a legitimate government.

Author:	Chippy [ Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:00 am ]
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If you've served your prison sentence, your voting rights should be restored.

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Author:	i.hope [ Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:10 am ]
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i.hope wrote: Donald Trump said he ordered a strike on Iran, then called it off 10 minutes before the strike was to happen. He changed his mind because it would cause a disproportionate killing of 150 people, as told by a general. Thank you Trump for bothering to ask at the last minute about the consequences of your own action. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-iran-usa-trump-military/trump-says-he-halted-u-s-military-response-on-iran-because-was-not-proportionate-idUSKCN1TM1P8 The US unilaterally withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal. Months later, Trump accused Iran of violating the deal. I am interested in how allies and adversaries of the US react to this. Do they see the US as credible? Do they become more non-cooperative towards the US because of this?

Author:	i.hope [ Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:15 am ]
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Chippy wrote: If you've served your prison sentence, your voting rights should be restored. An important step.

Author:	Excel [ Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:41 pm ]
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nghtvsn wrote: Biden is Hillary 3.0 Bernie wants terrorists and rapists to vote+his time has past after laying down like a dog in 2016. Anyone still supporting him should be embarrassed to have been backstabbed like that. I am and I Donated to his campaign! Kamala is shrill and bossy Bottedgedge...please I really believe Warren will end up the nominee after getting the Bernie Bots unless Michelle somehow steps in. She's the only person who I think could be a problem and win just because of the Obama hype machine. I thought Oprah might have been that candidate but not anymore. Joe Biden doesn't have the sleazy scandalous side that Hillary very much had. He is not close to as polarizing as she was. That may highlight sexism in America but it's reality. People should not be disappointed should Biden win the nomination as I suspect he will defeat Trump substantially. Bernie has been a mess, its surprising how many Dems seem bitter that he didn't do more to help Hillary in 2016, and perhaps most damaging, his base is seeing Warren deliver similar policies with much stronger messaging that won't alienate capitalists. Kamala has been a mess but its predictable. She's a former Prosecutor, her demeanor is her biggest strength as well as weakness. She comes across neither as warm/likeable as Warren or as intelligent. It's early but IDK if she can be saved. PB is not bad but he is a freaking mayor. Anyone claiming someone other than Warren has been the best thus far is lying, it hasn't been close. I don't think I will be voting for her in the primary but this just is what it is, she has performed at an extremely high level.

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:03 am ]
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Biden just seems like the vanilla, mid-term candidate that always loses ala Mitt Romney, John Kerry, Bob Dole, etc... Lizzie is the best choice, but she’s got a lot of work to do.

Author:	Chippy [ Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:21 am ]
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Honestly just split America up into two countries if Biden wins. He fucking sucks.

Author:	stuffp [ Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:36 am ]
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I think it's unlikely Biden gets the nom, just a feeling.

Author:	Chippy [ Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:46 am ]
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Biden is the least intriguing of almost every Dem candidate. I think it's going to either be Sanders or Warren. Sanders will get a more R votes than Warren, but I think Warren will get more D votes than Sanders (in a hypothetical general)

Author:	nghtvsn [ Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:41 am ]
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I'm looking forward to Wed/Thur. I really want to see how Warren handles herself. Then Thursday should be fun. I want to see some fireworks against Biden and not a yawn inducing throw darts at Trump show. I'd like to see Warren or the whole panel get a question on the power of the tech companies and their influence in elections.

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:41 pm ]
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Warren has had some good moments, but she doesn’t look good standing in the middle of these sure-losers.

Author:	nghtvsn [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:54 am ]
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That's actually a true statement but not in the way you want to paint it and of the course the fantastic press and media bots all drag out the R word again and go after the voters yet again. It's so TIRED but hey if that's what floats their boat and attacking his voters makes them happy. Good job. That's the best thing for him is attacking the people who voted for him. As for those tweets all it did was make folks actually defend these radicals and of course they are all just as normal to the left as trump is to his voters so maybe it's all a wash in the end, yet I think voters would be more offended at politicians who call detention camps concentration camps, compare border security to nazis, chuckle when talking about terrorists, prioritize illegal aliens over citizens. Those are all winning comments vs someone promoting the (R word) america first idea.

Author:	nghtvsn [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:46 pm ]
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I love how Chip is the EXACT embodiment of what turns off voters by emphatically declaring me a R word. He doesn't even know me other than by my general opinions on things and that I voted for #45. Go back in time and recall I couldn't stand Bush, couldn't stand the wars and then when the Dems swept into power claiming they'd end it. Nada, they continued. Probably thinks I'm a facist, sexist and all the ists. It's quite sad. I can't even watch a show like Pose w/o him wondering why. I bet if I were black he'd question my legitimacy. It's sad but you are full left, white guilt, cater to folks who declare their disgust and hate for America and LOVE it and by extension you do to. So that's where the divide is. I'm the R word and he's mentally ill.

Author:	Chippy [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:53 pm ]
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I honestly don't give a shit. Your opinion means nothing to me. No person with a conscience voted for Trump in 2016. We knew he had raped/sexually assaulted multiple women. We knew he was a racist. We knew he was a shitty businessman. Yet... you voted for him. Which means you were OK with what he's done. You can't claim ignorance.

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Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:22 am ]
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Trump's fans regarding his recent 'go back where you came from' tweets - "That's why we voted for him!"

Author:	Chippy [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:30 pm ]
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HELP WHAT? Racist fucks like nghtvsn aren't voting democrat. They voted for a fucking racist piece of shit. They have no morals, why would I cater my policy to them? Like, what fucking world do we want to appease these hateful motherfuckers?

Author:	zwackerm [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:35 pm ]
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Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave! Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats.

Author:	Jiffy [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:04 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote: Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave! Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats. The one where he tells 3 native-born women (who happen to be brown) to go back to the countries where they came from? And the moron literally ran on a plank of "Make America Great Again."

Author:	Chippy [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:31 pm ]
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nvmd, jiffy said it better than me.

Author:	i.hope [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:36 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote: Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave! Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats. If a lot of people think it's okay for a top government representative to tell American citizens to "go back" because they complain about the government, we are one step closer to fascism.

Author:	zwackerm [ Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:43 pm ]
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Jiffy wrote: zwackerm wrote: Which tweet are we talking about? The one where he’s like Our Country is Free, Beautiful and Very Successful. If you hate our Country, or if you are not happy here, you can leave! Thats pretty logical, honestly. It’s what I always tell Democrats. The one where he tells 3 native-born women (who happen to be brown) to go back to the countries where they came from? And the moron literally ran on a plank of "Make America Great Again." The intention of the tweet was clearly to point out the supposed hypocrisy of their trying to fix America with socialist policy, not to express hatred for brown women.