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| Author: | Barrabás [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
I don't like the Democrats, the Republicans, Trump, Hillary, Obama, or even Joe Biden, but... What goes around Goes around Goes around Always comes back around |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Jedi Master Carr wrote: I am not going to argue with Shack because he is talking like a complete idiot or brainwashed by Trump. There is a deep state like there is and Illuminati or the holocaust is made up or the moon landing is fake. No, aren't you aware? We liberals control the Deep State and run everything! We can get anything we want because we are so powerful behind the scenes! So powerful! Except we can't win elections or get national health care or stop the republican tax plan or keep him from getting rid of all the environmental protections or join in the global fight against climate change or ... Or maybe ... just maybe ... Trump and his followers are crazy paranoid conspiracy nuts. Hmmm. Which one is more likely? |
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| Author: | Jmart [ Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
| Author: | stuffp [ Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Amazing it has taken this long for Trump's first public hair-do flap. |
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| Author: | Jedi Master Carr [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
So, he wants a military parade. What a terrible idea and makes him look more like a dictator. If that happens, I hope I am not working in DC by then. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Much of his fan base is too dim to see the irony and those bright enough will make excuses. |
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| Author: | Groucho [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Jedi Master Carr wrote: So, he wants a military parade. What a terrible idea and makes him look more like a dictator. If that happens, I hope I am not working in DC by then. "We can't afford to help homeless vets. We don't have the money to improve veteran's hospitals. Hey, let's spend $21 million on a big parade! For me!" What an insecure narcissist. |
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| Author: | Caius [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Jedi Master Carr wrote: So, he wants a military parade. What a terrible idea and makes him look more like a dictator. If that happens, I hope I am not working in DC by then. Are you going to take a different Government job in some other place? Isn't NoVa/DC like Hollywood or Wall Street for you? You currently live there with the Orange one so I doubt you will move. |
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| Author: | Jedi Master Carr [ Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Caius wrote: Jedi Master Carr wrote: So, he wants a military parade. What a terrible idea and makes him look more like a dictator. If that happens, I hope I am not working in DC by then. Are you going to take a different Government job in some other place? Isn't NoVa/DC like Hollywood or Wall Street for you? You currently live there with the Orange one so I doubt you will move. I am a Park Ranger and prefer somewhere with more trees. DC is too expensive especially on Park ranger salaries. I have no plans staying here more than 2 more years. It is a hard place to move up to get a promotion for various reasons. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Jedi Master Carr wrote: I am not going to argue with Shack because he is talking like a complete idiot or brainwashed by Trump. Not sure it is either. I have just come to the conclusion that Shack has mental issues. |
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| Author: | Excel [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Eh. A great deal of Dems still don't grasp that the economic recovery was non-existent in much of the USA. Sure, much of it is their own fault for voting for GOP constantly, but still. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Excel are you talking currently or during the Obama years? |
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| Author: | Excel [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Excel are you talking currently or during the Obama years? Both. Got can only thank themselves, though. They vote GOP for state government who cut education systematically. Stupidest states are almost all run by GOP and commit lowest % of funds to education. Citizens arent employable and company flock elsewhere. Pence's state of Indiana is a great example. Just don't tell the people they're not as intelligent as others, even when test after test proves it. |
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| Author: | Caius [ Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Excel wrote: Got can only thank themselves, though. They vote GOP for state government who cut education systematically. Stupidest states are almost all run by GOP and commit lowest % of funds to education. Citizens arent employable and company flock elsewhere. Pence's state of Indiana is a great example. Just don't tell the people they're not as intelligent as others, even when test after test proves it. What the hell are you talking about with respect to Indiana? You are utterly wrong. https://www.nasbo.org/reports-data/state-expenditure-report (download the full report). As a % of total spending, about 29% of Indiana's spending went to elementary and secondary education between 2015-17. Spending also increased about 2.3% over those years in raw dollars. That is more than Massachusetts, New York, California, Illinois, Oregon, Hawaii, Connecticut, and many others. And no, I am not saying this is even a relevant metric. But you are. I'll keep your intelligence testing quip secret. |
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| Author: | Price [ Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Ouch! If that reply didn't turn Excel finally completely white... |
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| Author: | Jedi Master Carr [ Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Caius wrote: Excel wrote: Got can only thank themselves, though. They vote GOP for state government who cut education systematically. Stupidest states are almost all run by GOP and commit lowest % of funds to education. Citizens arent employable and company flock elsewhere. Pence's state of Indiana is a great example. Just don't tell the people they're not as intelligent as others, even when test after test proves it. What the hell are you talking about with respect to Indiana? You are utterly wrong. https://www.nasbo.org/reports-data/state-expenditure-report (download the full report). As a % of total spending, about 29% of Indiana's spending went to elementary and secondary education between 2015-17. Spending also increased about 2.3% over those years in raw dollars. That is more than Massachusetts, New York, California, Illinois, Oregon, Hawaii, Connecticut, and many others. And no, I am not saying this is even a relevant metric. But you are. I'll keep your intelligence testing quip secret. I have never heard anything about Indiana being a dumb state. I wouldn't call it full of genius but not stupid. It isn't like Alabama or Mississippi. |
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| Author: | Caius [ Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Jedi Master Carr wrote: I have never heard anything about Indiana being a dumb state. I wouldn't call it full of genius but not stupid. It isn't like Alabama or Mississippi. Why do you say that? Seems slightly racist of you. No state in the union has a higher percentage of African Americans than Mississippi's 37.3% per the 2010 census. Alabama is also top 10 along with states like Louisiana, South Carolina, Georgia, and North Carolina. Which, if I had to guess, you would also agree to be stupid states (before reading this, I mean). Probably because they voted for Trump or are perceived to be subsidized by blue states, or whatever. I always find it interesting the hate those states receive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population Just seems odd to single out those states for being stupid. |
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| Author: | stuffp [ Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
I don't think it has anything to do with racism, but just with the level of education in those states. http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/50_states_ranked_by_intelligen.html Alabama and Mississippi are 47th and 48th. |
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| Author: | Algren [ Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
JMC touched a nerve. So Caius is Alabamian! |
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| Author: | Caius [ Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Algren wrote: JMC touched a nerve. So Caius is Alabamian! I am from Washington state. I was only pointing out that liberals preen about intersectionality and checking ones privilege but then are first to say a state like Mississippi is stupid and a leach when it has a significant minority population compared to a much beloved liberal state like Vermont or Massachusetts which gets praise for being smart and a contributor state. |
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| Author: | Caius [ Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
stuffp wrote: I don't think it has anything to do with racism, but just with the level of education in those states. http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/50_states_ranked_by_intelligen.html Alabama and Mississippi are 47th and 48th. Are you a Charles Murray fan? You are restating exactly the point I was making. And I have been told for years by liberals that IQ tests are discriminatory or racist. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve |
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| Author: | Jedi Master Carr [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
It isn't racism those two have some of the lowest levels of education. A poor education system generally leads to less intelligent people. |
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| Author: | Caius [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Jedi Master Carr wrote: It isn't racism those two have some of the lowest levels of education. A poor education system generally leads to less intelligent people. You called Mississippi and Alabama "stupid" which I don't think necessarily means poorly educated. Donald Trump is stupid but he is not poorly educated in terms of prestige of institutions attended--just ask him. I'll leave it at that for you to reflect on the logical conclusion of your statement. |
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| Author: | Barrabás [ Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
stuffp wrote: I don't think it has anything to do with racism, but just with the level of education in those states. http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/50_states_ranked_by_intelligen.html Alabama and Mississippi are 47th and 48th. IQ is mostly independent from education. It's inherited. Genetic. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Trump Era: The Awkward Mix of Libertarianism and Fas |
Barrabás wrote: stuffp wrote: I don't think it has anything to do with racism, but just with the level of education in those states. http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/50_states_ranked_by_intelligen.html Alabama and Mississippi are 47th and 48th. IQ is mostly independent from education. It's inherited. Genetic. That's a vast simplification. IQ is influenced by genes as well as environment. |
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