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Groucho wrote:

zwackerm wrote:

Groucho wrote:

Pence has done the following:

He wants sex outside of marriage to be illegal; he doesn't believe gays should get married; therefore he believes gay sex should be illegal.

He is an evil man.

I actually didn't read this post whoops.

I Knew about the AIDS thing. What are the dates on all of these things? Are they since Trumps run? A lot of Christians are fine with homosexuality nowadays as long as they don't have to participate.

Most of these are when he was governor of Indiana, admittedly. No reason to assume his position has changed.

zwackerm wrote:

Well I would wait to bring out the panic wagon when he tries something.

Caius wrote:

Groucho wrote:

Pence has done the following:

He is an evil man.

Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender?

Chippy wrote:

Caius wrote:

Groucho wrote:

Pence has done the following:

He is an evil man.

Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender?

What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?

Groucho wrote:

Caius wrote:

Groucho wrote:

zwackerm wrote:

Mister Ecks wrote:

Yeah, you don't have to come out and say the words "I DON'T WANT GAY SEX TO BE A THING!" in order for people to know what you believe.

Although there's always a chance it's an American Beauty situation for Pence.

There's a difference between disapproving of gay sex personally and wanting it to be illegal. I don't personally like the idea but I know it's not my business. I'm sure Pence disapproves of gay sex but he's shown no signs of wanting to outlaw it.

Except, of course, all the examples I already gave that you are ignoring.

I don't believe any of your examples. Citation to legitimate news source saying Mile Pence wants to throw gay people in jail for wanting to be married. Pics or I didn't happen.

NY Times reliable enough for you?

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt ... 1afaa.html

Chippy wrote:

Caius wrote:

Groucho wrote:

Pence has done the following:

He is an evil man.

Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender?

What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?

Caius wrote:

I can't read without doing survey shit and it doesn't look like the NY Times but I am not saying that the North West Indiana Times (NWITimes?) Is not legit.

Caius wrote:

Chippy wrote:

Caius wrote:

Groucho wrote:

Pence has done the following:

He is an evil man.

Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender?

What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?

Seems clear. But you know that.

Caius wrote:

DP07 wrote:

Caius wrote:

DP07 wrote:

I could just imagine zwackerm picking apart every detail of Austin Powers.

And I could see you making some abstruse point over the course of six paragraphs that leaves people on all sides confused about the thrust of your original argument.

Only if they ask for it and it's necessary for an adequate reply.

Thanks for telling we what I know, that politics is generally lazy.

I had a rude reply, but I'll just say your attack here is worthless and meaningless to me. I care little if I convince you of anything (which would be a pretty pointless effort anyway).

Politics is generally lazy, similar to your initial attacking post.

DP07 wrote:

Why does comedy need to be perfectly accurate? It doesn't really matter whether the Muslim travel ban or the military transgender ban are mixed in the joke because they derive from similar motivations and causes.

Mister Ecks wrote:

everyone thinks of America as a laughing stock

Thegun wrote:

Every country is a laughing stock depending on where you are from.

zwackerm wrote:

People like to laugh at America till they come here for their surgeries.

Author:	zwackerm [ Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:10 am ]
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Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy" Fought for a law to jail anyone who performed a gay marriage Fought for a law to jail anyone who applied for a marriage license to someone of the same sex Said gays were causing the downfall of society Said that sex outside of marriage should be illegal Opposed laws that would make it illegal to discriminate against LGBT Fought for abstinence programs Fought Obama's federal rules about discrimination Fought against funding for AIDS Tried to get Trump to issue an executive order declaring premarital sex illegal He wants sex outside of marriage to be illegal; he doesn't believe gays should get married; therefore he believes gay sex should be illegal. He is an evil man. I actually didn't read this post whoops. I Knew about the AIDS thing. What are the dates on all of these things? Are they since Trumps run? A lot of Christians are fine with homosexuality nowadays as long as they don't have to participate. Most of these are when he was governor of Indiana, admittedly. No reason to assume his position has changed. Well I would wait to bring out the panic wagon when he tries something.

Author:	Groucho [ Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:20 am ]
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zwackerm wrote: Well I would wait to bring out the panic wagon when he tries something. I know; I just brought him up because earlier in this thread there was discussion about the politician who wanted to make straight sex illegal to make a point, and someone asked for an example of a politician trying to make gay sex illegal.

Author:	Chippy [ Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:32 am ]
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Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy" He is an evil man. Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender? What the FUCK does this have to do with the other?

Author:	zwackerm [ Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:41 pm ]
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Chippy wrote: Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy" He is an evil man. Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender? What the FUCK does this have to do with the other? I see chippy just couldn't resist.

Author:	Shack [ Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:12 pm ]
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Chippy the last few months reading this thread

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Author:	i.hope [ Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:15 pm ]
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Glad to see Chippy posting again.

Author:	zwackerm [ Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:47 pm ]
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Maybe if I became a Democrat he'd stay away.

Author:	Algren [ Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:35 pm ]
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Knew it wouldn't last long. He'll be back. One post here, another post there, and before you know it he's back posting like Trump on Twitter.

Author:	Caius [ Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:51 am ]
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Groucho wrote: Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: zwackerm wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: Yeah, you don't have to come out and say the words "I DON'T WANT GAY SEX TO BE A THING!" in order for people to know what you believe. Although there's always a chance it's an American Beauty situation for Pence. There's a difference between disapproving of gay sex personally and wanting it to be illegal. I don't personally like the idea but I know it's not my business. I'm sure Pence disapproves of gay sex but he's shown no signs of wanting to outlaw it. Except, of course, all the examples I already gave that you are ignoring. I don't believe any of your examples. Citation to legitimate news source saying Mile Pence wants to throw gay people in jail for wanting to be married. Pics or I didn't happen. NY Times reliable enough for you? http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt ... 1afaa.html I can't read without doing survey shit and it doesn't look like the NY Times but I am not saying that the North West Indiana Times (NWITimes?) Is not legit.

Author:	Caius [ Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:52 am ]
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Chippy wrote: Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy" He is an evil man. Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender? What the FUCK does this have to do with the other? Seems clear. But you know that.

Author:	Groucho [ Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:43 pm ]
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Caius wrote: I can't read without doing survey shit and it doesn't look like the NY Times but I am not saying that the North West Indiana Times (NWITimes?) Is not legit. Doh! That's embarrassing. I clicked on NY Times and that came up and I posted it by mistake. Snopes dealt with this: http://www.snopes.com/mike-pence-marriage-licenses/ Even if it did not go as far as originally claimed, the fact remains that Pence has pretty much done everything in his power to discriminate against gays at every possibility. (Remember the whole "religious freedom act" that allowed pizza parlors to discriminate? That was his.) Here's an actual, real NY Times article listing most of the terrible things he's done: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/us/p ... roups.html

Author:	Groucho [ Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:45 pm ]
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Caius wrote: Chippy wrote: Caius wrote: Groucho wrote: Pence has done the following: Passed laws for "conversion therapy" He is an evil man. Are you for minors being able to surgically and hormonally change their gender? What the FUCK does this have to do with the other? Seems clear. But you know that. No, it isn't. It's a distraction. but you know that. The issues involving discrimination against gay people have NOTHING to do with the rights of juveniles and parents concerning their own bodies.

Author:	zwackerm [ Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:15 pm ]
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Juveniles don't have The same rights as legal adults. This is a more interesting topic than Pence's scandalous past. I'm thinking only adults should be allowed to transition surgically, due to the brain still developing, but there's no reason teens and kids shouldn't be able to experiment with gender roles.

Author:	DP07 [ Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:26 pm ]
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Caius wrote: DP07 wrote: Caius wrote: DP07 wrote: I could just imagine zwackerm picking apart every detail of Austin Powers. And I could see you making some abstruse point over the course of six paragraphs that leaves people on all sides confused about the thrust of your original argument. Only if they ask for it and it's necessary for an adequate reply. Thanks for telling we what I know, that politics is generally lazy. I had a rude reply, but I'll just say your attack here is worthless and meaningless to me. I care little if I convince you of anything (which would be a pretty pointless effort anyway). Politics is generally lazy, similar to your initial attacking post. Why does comedy need to be perfectly accurate? It doesn't really matter whether the Muslim travel ban or the military transgender ban are mixed in the joke because they derive from similar motivations and causes.

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Author:	Caius [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:58 am ]
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DP07 wrote: Why does comedy need to be perfectly accurate? It doesn't really matter whether the Muslim travel ban or the military transgender ban are mixed in the joke because they derive from similar motivations and causes. Ah, ok.

Author:	Caius [ Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:28 am ]
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Apparently Trump is willing to do a DACA deal without a border deal. God do I love it when he stabs all the populist rubes in the back--who will now side with his new position.

Author:	_axiom [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:33 am ]
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American Institute in Croatia is having a rather weird promo campaign for their language courses https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 8432673085

Author:	Shack [ Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:15 pm ]
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LMAO

Author:	Mister Ecks [ Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:23 pm ]
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When Trump refers to Kim Jong-Un as Rocket Man, part of me gets why his base love him so much. That slap in the face of everything we all think of as "presidential". It's completely dangerous and continues to serve as proof of why everyone thinks of America as a laughing stock, but it's nevertheless interesting.

Author:	i.hope [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:47 am ]
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Wait, is Rocket Man a hero or a villain in Trump's extended universe? I am confused. President Moon sure sounds like an evil name.

Author:	tree and a half [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:15 am ]
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Mister Ecks wrote: everyone thinks of America as a laughing stock That started long before Trump.

Author:	Thegun [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:46 am ]
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Every country is a laughing stock depending on where you are from.

Author:	Algren [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:11 am ]
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Thegun wrote: Every country is a laughing stock depending on where you are from. But America is always in the top two.

Author:	zwackerm [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:06 am ]
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People like to laugh at America till they come here for their surgeries.

Author:	i.hope [ Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:57 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote: People like to laugh at America till they come here for their surgeries. Those are reserved for the very wealthy only. Speaking of health care and stuff, America ranks lowest in life expectancy compared to the rest of the industrialized countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy#List_by_the_United_Nations.2C_for_2010.E2.80.932015 Maybe useful to understand why this is.